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Pugchief 04-11-2024 07:45 AM

Propane Gas Grill
 
We are heading back North for the summer/fall soon. This year, we bought a new propane gas grill which sits on a concrete pad behind our GLASSED IN lanai.

I know it is not recommended to bring a propane tank indoors, but I am concerned that if the winds get high during hurricane season, the whole grill may tip over and break the glass enclosure. I have had full size grills tip over UpNorth with less wind than what comes to TV.

Would it be best to put the whole grill in the garage? Or does it get above 120F (the alleged heat limit for the propane tank, although I assume it can actually withstand more heat before being dangerous?) in a closed garage in the summer?

What are the best and safest options here to avoid both broken glass and tank explosion?

tophcfa 04-11-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320613)
We are heading back North for the summer/fall soon. This year, we bought a new propane gas grill which sits on a concrete pad behind our GLASSED IN lanai.

I know it is not recommended to bring a propane tank indoors, but I am concerned that if the winds get high during hurricane season, the whole grill may tip over and break the glass enclosure. I have had full size grills tip over UpNorth with less wind than what comes to TV.

Would it be best to put the whole grill in the garage? Or does it get above 120F (the alleged heat limit for the propane tank, although I assume it can actually withstand more heat before being dangerous?) in a closed garage in the summer?

What are the best and safest options here to avoid both broken glass and tank explosion?

Drill a couple holes in the concrete pad with a hammer drill and put in some anchors. Attach a ratchet strap to the grill and anchors and secure down the grill nice and snug.

Bogie Shooter 04-11-2024 08:54 AM

Another option
 
Release the remaining gas.
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Altavia 04-11-2024 09:33 AM

Propane Tank Storage Safety Tips

Storing propane tanks in a garage or detached shed is the best choice for indoor storage. These structures provide coverage from direct sunlight, while also providing a well-ventilated area for the tank in warm and cold weather.

Keep your tank on the ground, in an area that's clear of electrical tools and flammable or combustible materials.

Pugchief 04-11-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2320626)
Drill a couple holes in the concrete pad with a hammer drill and put in some anchors. Attach a ratchet strap to the grill and anchors and secure down the grill nice and snug.

This is an interesting idea worth looking into. Thanks.

Pugchief 04-11-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2320649)

Thanks, but the tank is more than 3/4 full, so that seems wasteful and expensive.

Pugchief 04-11-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2320663)
Propane Tank Storage Safety Tips

Storing propane tanks in a garage or detached shed is the best choice for indoor storage. These structures provide coverage from direct sunlight, while also providing a well-ventilated area for the tank in warm and cold weather.

Keep your tank on the ground, in an area that's clear of electrical tools and flammable or combustible materials.

Thanks, but the same article says, "You should never store your propane tank in your living area or in any spot that's attached to your home." which would in theory disqualify an attached garage.

I guess the real question is does the inside of the garage get above 120F if the door is kept closed all summer?

Normal 04-11-2024 11:10 AM

It can
 
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320701)
Thanks, but the same article says, "You should never store your propane tank in your living area or in any spot that's attached to your home." which would in theory disqualify an attached garage.

I guess the real question is does the inside of the garage get above 120F if the door is kept closed all summer?

Garages can. Ours is insulated and it still gets quite warm in the summer. You are in the ballpark at 120 degrees. That would be one of the warmest days though.

Rango 04-11-2024 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320613)
We are heading back North for the summer/fall soon. This year, we bought a new propane gas grill which sits on a concrete pad behind our GLASSED IN lanai.

I know it is not recommended to bring a propane tank indoors, but I am concerned that if the winds get high during hurricane season, the whole grill may tip over and break the glass enclosure. I have had full size grills tip over UpNorth with less wind than what comes to TV.

Would it be best to put the whole grill in the garage? Or does it get above 120F (the alleged heat limit for the propane tank, although I assume it can actually withstand more heat before being dangerous?) in a closed garage in the summer?

What are the best and safest options here to avoid both broken glass and tank explosion?

Leave tank outside, bring grill into your lanai

Decadeofdave 04-11-2024 12:06 PM

I clean the grill well. Completely degrease all parts, remove propane tank,store grill in garage .
Put propane on shady side of the house in shade of a bush in the bed.

Dusty_Star 04-11-2024 12:49 PM

Which direction does your garage door face? I have an eastern facing (more or less) garage & it never approached 120 last summer. On the other hand I opened the door, probably daily, but briefly, usually only to move the car in & out.

dewilson58 04-11-2024 12:57 PM

Grill in garage, give your tank to a neighbor to use.

retiredguy123 04-11-2024 01:08 PM

One guy is falling from sky and meets another guy who is being propelled upward. The first guy says: Hey, do you know anything about parachutes? The other guy says: No, do you know anything about gas grills?

Normal 04-11-2024 01:09 PM

20 dollars
 
20 dollars worth of propane, whatever you do with it, I wouldn’t view it as a financial loss. Instead you could call it a purchase of a clean conscience and stress relief. Turn the grill on high for 10 minutes to clean the grates, then either drain it or give it away. Enjoy your summer with less worries.

Stu from NYC 04-11-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pugchief (Post 2320613)
we are heading back north for the summer/fall soon. This year, we bought a new propane gas grill which sits on a concrete pad behind our glassed in lanai.

I know it is not recommended to bring a propane tank indoors, but i am concerned that if the winds get high during hurricane season, the whole grill may tip over and break the glass enclosure. I have had full size grills tip over upnorth with less wind than what comes to tv.

Would it be best to put the whole grill in the garage? Or does it get above 120f (the alleged heat limit for the propane tank, although i assume it can actually withstand more heat before being dangerous?) in a closed garage in the summer?

What are the best and safest options here to avoid both broken glass and tank explosion?

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Dusty_Star 04-11-2024 01:27 PM

Does anyone know the price of propane? I looked it up & it seems the best answer I got was $4.97 I don't know if that is right or not.

It does say this: "Propane Prices in Florida Are Generally Higher Than the National Average.
Propane prices in Florida have experienced fluctuations. Still, prices are relatively stable compared to other states and maintain above-national average prices. Since 2016 there has been only one drop in price below an average of $4.0. Currently, propane prices reside at the $4.7 mark, indicating the same start to a heating season for 2023-24 as it was a year before."

https://www.comparepropane.com/florida-propane-prices/

Normal 04-11-2024 01:55 PM

ACE Refill
 
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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2320765)
Does anyone know the price of propane? I looked it up & it seems the best answer I got was $4.97 I don't know if that is right or not.

It does say this: "Propane Prices in Florida Are Generally Higher Than the National Average.
Propane prices in Florida have experienced fluctuations. Still, prices are relatively stable compared to other states and maintain above-national average prices. Since 2016 there has been only one drop in price below an average of $4.0. Currently, propane prices reside at the $4.7 mark, indicating the same start to a heating season for 2023-24 as it was a year before."

https://www.comparepropane.com/florida-propane-prices/

It was a little over 19 dollars at Wildwood’s ACE to refill our propane gas about 3 weeks ago. I think it was about 4.3 gallons? They don’t refill to 5 gallons because of expansion.

coffeebean 04-11-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2320707)
Garages can. Ours is insulated and it still gets quite warm in the summer. You are in the ballpark at 120 degrees. That would be one of the warmest days though.

I have a wall thermometer in my garage. It never reads above low 90s in the heat of the summer. I have radiant barrier in the attic which may keep the heat down in the garage.

Dusty_Star 04-11-2024 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2320806)
I have a wall thermometer in my garage. It never reads above low 90s in the heat of the summer. I have radiant barrier in the attic which may keep the heat down in the garage.

Mine is similar. I too put a wall thermometer up & it usually read in the high 80s at the hottest days of summer last year. That's why I asked about orientation, southern or western garages might get hotter.

Dusty_Star 04-11-2024 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2320780)
It was a little over 19 dollars at Wildwood’s ACE to refill our propane gas about 3 weeks ago. I think it was about 4.3 gallons? They don’t refill to 5 gallons because of expansion.

Aren't they usually 20 gallon tanks?

Normal 04-11-2024 07:17 PM

No
 
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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2320832)
Aren't they usually 20 gallon tanks?

Respectfully, 20 pound, not 20 gallon. A 20 gallon tank wouldn’t fit on most grills. In addition it would weigh 80-90 pounds full including the weight of the container. Most grills such as a Webber have a 5 gallon tank.

MrChip72 04-11-2024 08:25 PM

Long term, the easiest solution is to get a natural gas line run to your grill from your house. Any propane grill can be converted to run natural gas fairly easily. When you're heading back up north just use the quick disconnect and move your grill into the garage.

Topspinmo 04-11-2024 09:21 PM

Grill propane tanks are filled and stored outside till you buy them, why would them need special attention? Just bindi cord you grill to something like tree/ palm. Mine sets out away from house it has never blown over. IMO don’t want it in my garage or up beside my house.

Topspinmo 04-11-2024 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2320765)
Does anyone know the price of propane? I looked it up & it seems the best answer I got was $4.97 I don't know if that is right or not.

It does say this: "Propane Prices in Florida Are Generally Higher Than the National Average.
Propane prices in Florida have experienced fluctuations. Still, prices are relatively stable compared to other states and maintain above-national average prices. Since 2016 there has been only one drop in price below an average of $4.0. Currently, propane prices reside at the $4.7 mark, indicating the same start to a heating season for 2023-24 as it was a year before."

https://www.comparepropane.com/florida-propane-prices/

Haven’t you noticed everything higher in Florida :shrug:

Dilligas 04-12-2024 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320699)
Thanks, but the tank is more than 3/4 full, so that seems wasteful and expensive.

You can replace the tank at Walmart for under $25 with a full tank upon your return

huge-pigeons 04-12-2024 04:54 AM

Got rid of propane gas grills a dozen years ago. Have seen too many propane gas grill fires that start the house on fire. I went with pellet grill, wood flavor pellets, can also smoke the meat. The grill is 140 lbs, not going anywhere unless a direct hit. I buy a bag of pellets online or from Lowe’s. No need the shlep a heavy awkward propane tank around to get refilled

Barbgf 04-12-2024 05:07 AM

I would give the propane to a neighbor, screw the grill to a concrete pad, and cover the grill. No way would I put the propane in our garage.

Lyarham 04-12-2024 05:12 AM

Gas grill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320613)
We are heading back North for the summer/fall soon. This year, we bought a new propane gas grill which sits on a concrete pad behind our GLASSED IN lanai.

I know it is not recommended to bring a propane tank indoors, but I am concerned that if the winds get high during hurricane season, the whole grill may tip over and break the glass enclosure. I have had full size grills tip over UpNorth with less wind than what comes to TV.

Would it be best to put the whole grill in the garage? Or does it get above 120F (the alleged heat limit for the propane tank, although I assume it can actually withstand more heat before being dangerous?) in a closed garage in the summer?

What are the best and safest options here to avoid both broken glass and tank explosion?

I put the grill in the garage but leave the tank in a safe corner on the front porch

Josephjmarchese 04-12-2024 05:34 AM

Perhaps Dangerous! Don’t fool around with propane
 
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320699)
Thanks, but the tank is more than 3/4 full, so that seems wasteful and expensive.

Take the tank off. Store the grill inside and the tank in a shady corner in the back of your home. It will be ok. Remember even though you’re going home people are still using grills and tanks outdoors. Grill inside, tank outside

Dnash 04-12-2024 06:24 AM

Remove the tank and store it outside.

TomPerry 04-12-2024 06:28 AM

Our patio faces north/northeast. Keep our grill on patio near the house. 24/7/365 for eight years! We have had several hurricanes and never had an issue. I think the fear about gas grills is way overblown, no pun intended.

bowlingal 04-12-2024 06:43 AM

lend your 3/4 full tank to a neighbor for the summer to use. Get it back in the fall when you come home

jarodrig 04-12-2024 07:11 AM

The suggestion to empty the tank by placing it on its side and opening the valve is a bit flawed for 2 reasons.

1. The valve itself has a spring loaded “seal” that is activated when screwing in the regulator hose. So, nothing is going to come out of the tank without that spring loaded seal is depressed .

2. These tanks have a safety valve inside which is part of the valve . I can describe it as sort of a “float” shut off.

When tipping the tank on its side , that safety “float” shuts off the flow and prevents the fuel from coming out of the valve .

Professor 04-12-2024 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320613)
We are heading back North for the summer/fall soon. This year, we bought a new propane gas grill which sits on a concrete pad behind our GLASSED IN lanai.

I know it is not recommended to bring a propane tank indoors, but I am concerned that if the winds get high during hurricane season, the whole grill may tip over and break the glass enclosure. I have had full size grills tip over UpNorth with less wind than what comes to TV.

Would it be best to put the whole grill in the garage? Or does it get above 120F (the alleged heat limit for the propane tank, although I assume it can actually withstand more heat before being dangerous?) in a closed garage in the summer?

What are the best and safest options here to avoid both broken glass and tank explosion?

For 15 years I have left the grill and propane tank in the garage every summer without incident. Garages here don't seal that well so I never worried.

Teemotay 04-12-2024 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2320754)
Grill in garage, give your tank to a neighbor to use.

100% correct answer!

xcaligirl 04-12-2024 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2320699)
Thanks, but the tank is more than 3/4 full, so that seems wasteful and expensive.

Think of it as cheaper than it exploding and causing your house to go up in flames. I'm thinking it would not be expensive at all or let the 'block party' begin to starting grilling up some favorites to burn the gas. (that would be more expensive too). Have a safe trip back home!!!

Nell57 04-12-2024 07:29 AM

Well, this has been an interesting conversation.
I never thought to ask this question. I’ve lived here 15 years. When I went north in the summer I just left the tank attached to the grill on my lanai, and an extra tank in the garage. Never a problem.

I’m not saying that it’s the thing to do. I’m just suggesting that people wiser than me have suggested many good options.

Sparky99 04-12-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nell57 (Post 2320961)
Well, this has been an interesting conversation.
I never thought to ask this question. I’ve lived here 15 years. When I went north in the summer I just left the tank attached to the grill on my lanai, and an extra tank in the garage. Never a problem.

I’m not saying that it’s the thing to do. I’m just suggesting that people wiser than me have suggested many good options.

Same here:

"When I went north in the summer I just left the tank attached to the grill on my lanai, and an extra tank in the garage. Never a problem."

Dusty_Star 04-12-2024 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2320842)
Respectfully, 20 pound, not 20 gallon. A 20 gallon tank wouldn’t fit on most grills. In addition it would weigh 80-90 pounds full including the weight of the container. Most grills such as a Webber have a 5 gallon tank.

Thanks!

RRGuyNJ 04-12-2024 08:57 AM

Garage
 
We store multiple tanks in both an attached and detached garage in Eastern NC. It gets just as hot here as there and have never had a problem. Check for leaks with soapy water if want to be sure. You need a grill from BQ Grills in Elm City, NC. If our grill blows over we have more to worry about than where to store an LP Tank.:MOJE_whot: Safe travels!


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