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frayedends 05-13-2024 06:59 PM

Sumter Landing updates
 
The Villages just posted a new video explaining plans to update Sumter Landing boardwalk/water access. They talked about kayaking and dragon boats. Now, I am new to the Villages and don’t know much about Sumter Landing. But I was under the impression that boats (other than that $2 tour) were not allowed and I also thought fishing wasn’t allowed. Yet the video showed a pontoon boat with people fishing.

Are these things currently allowed in that water?

Bogie Shooter 05-13-2024 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2331006)
The Villages just posted a new video explaining plans to update Sumter Landing boardwalk/water access. They talked about kayaking and dragon boats. Now, I am new to the Villages and don’t know much about Sumter Landing. But I was under the impression that boats (other than that $2 tour) were not allowed and I also thought fishing wasn’t allowed. Yet the video showed a pontoon boat with people fishing.

Are these things currently allowed in that water?

Outdoor Excursions

GUIDED KAYAKING EXPERIENCE – Rent a kayak and enjoy a guided tour full of tranquility, exercise and wildlife observation on Lake Sumter. Join us as a single rider or bring a buddy to share a tandem Kayak. Bring a group of up to 8 people for up to a 2 hour session.

NATURE PONTOON TOUR – Grab your binoculars and bring your camera, as we cruise Lake Sumter on a pontoon boat! Your guide will share their knowledge of the environment and ecosystem while you get the chance to admire the wildlife and beautiful scenery from the comfort of the boat! This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 guests.

GUIDED FISHING TOUR – Guided catch and release excursions on Lake Sumter cater to all experience levels…whether you are a seasoned sports or amateur angler, you will enjoy going after the trophy fish. This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 anglers.

Stu from NYC 05-13-2024 09:04 PM

Thats ok there are gators in this lake, I will pass

Kelevision 05-14-2024 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2331032)
Thats ok there are gators in this lake, I will pass

I was raised living and swimming/skiing on Lake Harris in Leesburg. Fun fact. The entire world of water skiiers used to live and train in Leesburg on that lake full of gators. I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one. They’re scared of everything. They’re ambush predators. They lie under cover of the water or in reeds, and wait. When something is in ambush distance, splashing in the water, they look at the basic size and either their brain goes “Nope, too small, not worth it,” “Nope, too big, might fight me off, not worth it,” or “Yep! Just right!” And if the answer is number three, they literally erupt out of the water and attack. They drag their prey to the bottom to drown it first. If you see one hanging out, they don’t care about you… just keep on walking….if you jumped at it or poked it with a stick it would snap at you but that’s about it.

frayedends 05-14-2024 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2331009)
Outdoor Excursions

GUIDED KAYAKING EXPERIENCE – Rent a kayak and enjoy a guided tour full of tranquility, exercise and wildlife observation on Lake Sumter. Join us as a single rider or bring a buddy to share a tandem Kayak. Bring a group of up to 8 people for up to a 2 hour session.

NATURE PONTOON TOUR – Grab your binoculars and bring your camera, as we cruise Lake Sumter on a pontoon boat! Your guide will share their knowledge of the environment and ecosystem while you get the chance to admire the wildlife and beautiful scenery from the comfort of the boat! This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 guests.

GUIDED FISHING TOUR – Guided catch and release excursions on Lake Sumter cater to all experience levels…whether you are a seasoned sports or amateur angler, you will enjoy going after the trophy fish. This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 anglers.

Thanks. I had not seen that.

dougjb 05-14-2024 11:46 AM

OH....I thought it was called Sumter Swamp!

Grin....obviously, the real estate people don't like me!

Stu from NYC 05-14-2024 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2331058)
I was raised living and swimming/skiing on Lake Harris in Leesburg. Fun fact. The entire world of water skiiers used to live and train in Leesburg on that lake full of gators. I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one. They’re scared of everything. They’re ambush predators. They lie under cover of the water or in reeds, and wait. When something is in ambush distance, splashing in the water, they look at the basic size and either their brain goes “Nope, too small, not worth it,” “Nope, too big, might fight me off, not worth it,” or “Yep! Just right!” And if the answer is number three, they literally erupt out of the water and attack. They drag their prey to the bottom to drown it first. If you see one hanging out, they don’t care about you… just keep on walking….if you jumped at it or poked it with a stick it would snap at you but that’s about it.

Interesting and thanks.

Once upon a time had a few alligator bites and always worried the rest of the gators would find out and take revenge.:bigbow:

xkeowner 05-14-2024 05:20 PM

Possibly creaating parking issues at the square
 
Dragon boaters currently park at/near The Waterfront Inn. Moving the launch point to the area behind the radio station will likely result in most of those folks parking on or near the square. My guesstimate is 50+ vehicles just for dragon boating during peak time. Add in the kayaking numbers plus those fishing and it would appear to have an impact on prime parking at the square. Granted much of the dragon boat parking will be in the morning. Also, what impact is there when a significant number of parking places are blocked off for market night or other events?

The recreation concept is a positive, I just question the location.

village dreamer 05-14-2024 05:58 PM

and only cost us 3 millon$$$

shaw8700@outlook.com 05-14-2024 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2331009)
Outdoor Excursions

GUIDED KAYAKING EXPERIENCE – Rent a kayak and enjoy a guided tour full of tranquility, exercise and wildlife observation on Lake Sumter. Join us as a single rider or bring a buddy to share a tandem Kayak. Bring a group of up to 8 people for up to a 2 hour session.

NATURE PONTOON TOUR – Grab your binoculars and bring your camera, as we cruise Lake Sumter on a pontoon boat! Your guide will share their knowledge of the environment and ecosystem while you get the chance to admire the wildlife and beautiful scenery from the comfort of the boat! This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 guests.

GUIDED FISHING TOUR – Guided catch and release excursions on Lake Sumter cater to all experience levels…whether you are a seasoned sports or amateur angler, you will enjoy going after the trophy fish. This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 anglers.

My husband has his own kayak - can he use it or does he have to rent one?

Bogie Shooter 05-14-2024 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2331321)
My husband has his own kayak - can he use it or does he have to rent one?

Check the link or call……………

Marathon Man 05-14-2024 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 2331287)
Dragon boaters currently park at/near The Waterfront Inn. Moving the launch point to the area behind the radio station will likely result in most of those folks parking on or near the square. My guesstimate is 50+ vehicles just for dragon boating during peak time. Add in the kayaking numbers plus those fishing and it would appear to have an impact on prime parking at the square. Granted much of the dragon boat parking will be in the morning. Also, what impact is there when a significant number of parking places are blocked off for market night or other events?

The recreation concept is a positive, I just question the location.

What is you guess based on?

patfla06 05-15-2024 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2331032)
Thats ok there are gators in this lake, I will pass

I would have to agree with you!!

TeresaE 05-15-2024 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2331058)
I was raised living and swimming/skiing on Lake Harris in Leesburg. Fun fact. The entire world of water skiiers used to live and train in Leesburg on that lake full of gators. I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one. They’re scared of everything. They’re ambush predators. They lie under cover of the water or in reeds, and wait. When something is in ambush distance, splashing in the water, they look at the basic size and either their brain goes “Nope, too small, not worth it,” “Nope, too big, might fight me off, not worth it,” or “Yep! Just right!” And if the answer is number three, they literally erupt out of the water and attack. They drag their prey to the bottom to drown it first. If you see one hanging out, they don’t care about you… just keep on walking….if you jumped at it or poked it with a stick it would snap at you but that’s about it.

And, correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t dogs attract them also? Another native told me they will tip a kayak or a canoe to get to the dog.

ddeacon1 05-15-2024 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2331321)
My husband has his own kayak - can he use it or does he have to rent one?

If they act the same as Lake Okahumpka Rec center, the answer is no.

MandoMan 05-15-2024 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 2331287)
Dragon boaters currently park at/near The Waterfront Inn. Moving the launch point to the area behind the radio station will likely result in most of those folks parking on or near the square. My guesstimate is 50+ vehicles just for dragon boating during peak time. Add in the kayaking numbers plus those fishing and it would appear to have an impact on prime parking at the square. Granted much of the dragon boat parking will be in the morning. Also, what impact is there when a significant number of parking places are blocked off for market night or other events?

The recreation concept is a positive, I just question the location.

Many of us park in the parking lots and walk to the squares. Blocking off parking places for events that draw lots of people like craft shows, car shows, and markets is only a problem for those who insist on parking a few feet from the square. The square general vicinity is the best place for these things.

Villager24 05-15-2024 06:32 AM

I for one welcome the changes and upgrades and am pleased The Villages developers continue to thoughtfully upgrade and revision the amenities. My observation is they always do things first class. Excited to see the changes.

DrHitch 05-15-2024 06:32 AM

Boat launching at Lake Sumter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2331321)
My husband has his own kayak - can he use it or does he have to rent one?

The current boat launch ramp is behind (west) of the hotel. Even with docks at the "new" landing, I would think that the current launch ramp will remain there.

Can you use your own kayak? Don't know rules as to why not?

FredMitchell 05-15-2024 07:36 AM

There are public boat launches at a number of area lakes - Miona, Panasofkee, Okahumpka, etc. You can find them on Google.

Sumter does not seem to have a public boat launch. I would not expect a private facility to allow you to launch your water craft.

Now what about all of the retention ponds. They are surrounded by buffers owned and maintained by TV. I have not seen any type of boat on one.

Altavia 05-15-2024 11:25 AM

Most are probably aware the lake at Eastport is designed for Dragon boat racing.

Middleton also has a dock on one of the large lakes.

xkeowner 05-15-2024 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2331345)
What is you guess based on?

Three dragon boats per period with up to 22 persons per boat would be 66 vehicles if each drove alone. I allowed for some pairing up in vehicles. Just a guesstimate.

village dreamer 05-15-2024 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager24 (Post 2331399)
I for one welcome the changes and upgrades and am pleased The Villages developers continue to thoughtfully upgrade and revision the amenities. My observation is they always do things first class. Excited to see the changes.

i just wish ,they would use the best materials to build everything . dont use metal piping in the ponds, should have used metal on the wind mill in brownwood, sumter landing use plastic wood for the boardwalk. walking trails make out of cement , one and done. not rebuild every few years. do it right from the start.

Stu from NYC 05-15-2024 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager24 (Post 2331399)
I for one welcome the changes and upgrades and am pleased The Villages developers continue to thoughtfully upgrade and revision the amenities. My observation is they always do things first class. Excited to see the changes.

I do not think the developers are behind this.

JoMar 05-15-2024 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2331611)
I do not think the developers are behind this.

Don't you know the Developer is behind everything :1rotfl:

Marathon Man 05-15-2024 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 2331596)
Three dragon boats per period with up to 22 persons per boat would be 66 vehicles if each drove alone. I allowed for some pairing up in vehicles. Just a guesstimate.

It's a very high guestimate. Take half.

Michael G. 05-15-2024 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2331058)
I was raised living and swimming/skiing on Lake Harris in Leesburg. Fun fact. The entire world of water skiiers used to live and train in Leesburg on that lake full of gators. I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one. They’re scared of everything. They’re ambush predators. They lie under cover of the water or in reeds, and wait. When something is in ambush distance, splashing in the water, they look at the basic size and either their brain goes “Nope, too small, not worth it,” “Nope, too big, might fight me off, not worth it,” or “Yep! Just right!” And if the answer is number three, they literally erupt out of the water and attack. They drag their prey to the bottom to drown it first. If you see one hanging out, they don’t care about you… just keep on walking….if you jumped at it or poked it with a stick it would snap at you but that’s about it.

This doesn't make sense to me. :shrug:

It's the “Yep! Just right!” tells me anyone to stay out of the water, Period.

"I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one."
Can you guarantee That???

Maker 05-16-2024 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2331650)
This doesn't make sense to me. :shrug:

It's the “Yep! Just right!” tells me anyone to stay out of the water, Period.

"I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one."
Can you guarantee That???

I know of an alligator attack. A woman was walking two dogs on a villages built walking path that goes near a pond. It was in the afternoon daylight. Alligator pounced on the dogs without any warning. She tried to save them, but could not. She suffered bites and cuts. One dog badly hurt, other dog taken by alligator.
This was about a year ago.

This info was given in person by the woman who was attacked. She is traumatized and will never walk near a pond ever again.

Bee Ess about the "it never happens here"

JMintzer 05-16-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2331711)
I know of an alligator attack. A woman was walking two dogs on a villages built walking path that goes near a pond. It was in the afternoon daylight. Alligator pounced on the dogs without any warning. She tried to save them, but could not. She suffered bites and cuts. One dog badly hurt, other dog taken by alligator.
This was about a year ago.

This info was given in person by the woman who was attacked. She is traumatized and will never walk near a pond ever again.

Bee Ess about the "it never happens here"

I don't remember reading a single word about this...

Are you sure it happened in TV?

ChrisTee 05-16-2024 01:52 PM

We frequently kayak in throughout central FL where alligators are common. I know the risk and I'm fine with it, as it's well within my comfort zone. (read: From my point of view the risk is mighty low ... and kayaking in the amazing waters/springs here is simply amazing!!!). Those who are put off by the idea should skip it. Enough said. If you're afraid stay out of the water.

Stu from NYC 05-16-2024 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2331889)
I don't remember reading a single word about this...

Are you sure it happened in TV?

About 6 months or so ago south of here a gator attacked a dog and the owner got involved and was killed by a gator.

frayedends 05-16-2024 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2331889)
I don't remember reading a single word about this...

Are you sure it happened in TV?

The one near the Villages in Leesburg, woman lost arm. Not killed.

Woman, 84, loses arm in alligator attack in Leesburg

The incident with the dog and the woman killed was in St. Lucie.

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JMintzer 05-16-2024 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2331898)
About 6 months or so ago south of here a gator attacked a dog and the owner got involved and was killed by a gator.

Well that's certainly not what the person I was responding to was talking about...

JMintzer 05-16-2024 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2331901)
The one near the Villages in Leesburg, woman lost arm. Not killed.

Woman, 84, loses arm in alligator attack in Leesburg

The incident with the dog and the woman killed was in St. Lucie.

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So neither of them happened in TV...

Just making sure I wasn't going crazy... (That was a RHETORICAL statement! :1rotfl:)

asianthree 05-16-2024 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2331889)
I don't remember reading a single word about this...

Are you sure it happened in TV?

Yes one event there was a person walking pitbull mix close to the pond on canal st. Gator came out of the water took the dog into the pond. Day or so later the carcass was floating in the middle of the pond. Took a few days before it was removed. We lived around the corner from the pond, and one could easily see the floater. Those who back up to the pond were upset it took so long to remove the remains.

Maybe prior to you coming here, but definitely a gator kill.

Second event in the large pond in Duval off Odell Circle, small gator tried to snatch a toy poodle. Owner hit the gator in the face, dog was injured but not severely. We knew the dog owners personally, we felt bad for them, but in the same breath “what were you thinking walking along the large pond at dusk”

Topspinmo 05-16-2024 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2331006)
The Villages just posted a new video explaining plans to update Sumter Landing boardwalk/water access. They talked about kayaking and dragon boats. Now, I am new to the Villages and don’t know much about Sumter Landing. But I was under the impression that boats (other than that $2 tour) were not allowed and I also thought fishing wasn’t allowed. Yet the video showed a pontoon boat with people fishing.

Are these things currently allowed in that water?

You have to pay to fish. There also law suit frivolous? probably why updating boardwalk.

Rainger99 05-16-2024 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2331058)
I was raised living and swimming/skiing on Lake Harris in Leesburg. Fun fact. The entire world of water skiiers used to live and train in Leesburg on that lake full of gators. I’ve never known of a person who’s even come close to being attacked by one. They’re scared of everything. They’re ambush predators. They lie under cover of the water or in reeds, and wait. When something is in ambush distance, splashing in the water, they look at the basic size and either their brain goes “Nope, too small, not worth it,” “Nope, too big, might fight me off, not worth it,” or “Yep! Just right!” And if the answer is number three, they literally erupt out of the water and attack. They drag their prey to the bottom to drown it first. If you see one hanging out, they don’t care about you… just keep on walking….if you jumped at it or poked it with a stick it would snap at you but that’s about it.

I don’t think too many people from up north share your views that alligators aren’t dangerous. If I see one on the golf course or near a trail, I keep far away from it!

Stu from NYC 05-16-2024 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2331619)
Don't you know the Developer is behind everything :1rotfl:

Very true but very often he has figured out a way to make the rest of us pay for stuff

Stu from NYC 05-16-2024 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2331906)
Well that's certainly not what the person I was responding to was talking about...

I know just an example of how dangerous gators can be. No way am I going into water frequented by gators

Troopie 05-16-2024 05:49 PM

Sumter Landing updates
 
The boat tours on Lake Sumter are now $3 (just found this out a few weeks ago when i had a friend visiting). It's still a nice way to spend some time on a sunny afternoon....well worth it.

Stu from NYC 05-16-2024 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troopie (Post 2331974)
The boat tours on Lake Sumter are now $3 (just found this out a few weeks ago when i had a friend visiting). It's still a nice way to spend some time on a sunny afternoon....well worth it.

It is a very nice 20 minutes on the lake


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