Why You Should Want Driverless Cars On Roads Now
 

I thought I posted this video a few days ago, but I can't find it, so I'm trying again. It's done by a science educator (Derek Muller) who regularly posts fascinating videos on his Veratasium (element of truth) YouTube channel. If the link doesn't work for you, search YouTube for "veratasium driverless cars".

https://youtu.be/yjztvddhZmI?si=UnRc_F_7rw0f2VHe

Why You Should Want Driverless Cars On Roads Now?

Because you want more accidents with higher insurance premiums, and the ability of your car to kill you. Not to mention what a hacker could do to that idea.

Didn't watch the video?

China will develop the perfect driverless car. They don't have to worry about the "Morgans and Morgans" during testing.:jester:

I like the idea of fully-approved, driverless cars. Distracted driving, driving under the influence, bad habits, poor skills, and just poor decision making cause the roads to be rather dangerous. If those drivers were sitting back in their computer-driven cars it would make things safer for all of us.

Tesla's experience shows not all full-self driving systems are ready for prime time. I noted that the system in the video uses the LiDAR sensors that Tesla removed. I will trust a certified, fully-approved system to be safe.

The most difficult hurdle is having automated cars having to deal with the erratic behavior of human drivers also on the road. At some point all cars will be automated and communicate so accidents will be very infrequent.

I’m hoping for an autonomous golf cart to bring me home from the square.

I am continually surprised that there are not many more auto accident fatalities , a recent trip to the Midwest and back I was almost involved in a serious accident going and returning, both occasions I was with the flow of traffic, moderately heavy, when overtaken by an other driver traveling at a remarkable speed weaving lane to lane on one occasion missed the rear of my veh on the other the front of my veh and the back of a tractor / trailer in the lane next to me , it would have been difficult to plan and accomplish the choreography of these maneuvers much less so just on the fly, I remain amazed

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It is definitely the future. I will not see it come to full fruition, but it is here, and the Genie will not be put back in the bottle.
The ultimate conclusion will be banning all humans from driving, for full safety.
It's an amazing world!

This would probably be ideal for The Villages; it is a reasonably confined area and would probably be an ideal location for a driverless SHARED RIDE concept, and I believe it could be expanded to surrounding areas (maybe avoiding I4). Since it appears to be able to work with NON automated vehicles this would also work well.
Maybe we should get together and start contacting WAYMO to see if they can setup a program in TV.

It's the opposite of that, more likely. The salivating law firms in the USA cause product developers to grind-out their designs and manufacturing extra tightly to avoid big problems/lawsuits.

Places like China, India and elsewhere simply don't care if many people get harmed, or even killed, during the development, testing and usage of things. Just ask anyone who grew up in either of those countries.

I would actually feel better flying in a driverless plane then the car. :undecided:

Screw that.

It’s not a matter of if, but when.

It’s coming folks. Get used to the idea. The roads will be safer.

Hmmm
 

Until, a part breaks that is crucial for operation (metal and electrical components never break…/s) and the program for the car can’t solve the problem.

We own a 2023 car that can drive itself on limited access highways and can use lane detection and crash detection on all roads. It won’t let us take our hands off the wheel without an alarm. It definitely helps keeping the car in its lane and not rear ending someone. Definitely feel safer using the technology, although there was a comfort curve to learn about trusting it would work.

So, have you never had a computer glitch? Never had a software issue? Never had that "blue screen of death" crash on your PC? Never had to reboot to clear an issue? Never lost internet connection? So, this will never happen with an autonomous vehicle? So, when will we see an autonomous car in the Indy 500?

Driverless cars have less accidents than Drivers that live in the Villages!

People break, too. My mother had a heart attack when she was 90 and ran into someone. If you had watched the video, you would have seen that the statistics show that these cars have far fewer accidents than old fashioned cars. People are terrible drivers. You would also have seen that the majority of people think they are better than average drivers. That’s mathematically impossible.

Have you never been distracted while driving? Never felt drowsy while driving? Those are driving failures. That happens way more often than computers failing.

Autonomous driving is coming in the fairly near future. Those who refuse to adapt will end up paying higher insurance rates because they are not as good as a computer.

The Luddites are thriving on TOTV

hands free
 

My 2019 Rav4 Toyota radar cruise is somewhat driverless it handles speed and turns BUT is not as arrogant as Tesla to let you crawl in the backseat. Your hand off the wheel for a few minutes gets a warning buzz and turns it off

Windguy- Thanks for the enlightening and informative video.

Henry Ford ran into much the same criticism, phobia, and pearl-clutching mania when his mechanical vehicles first took to the roads a century ago. Decades ago my mother would not purchase a car with "cruise control" because she was convinced everyone would fall asleep behind the wheel.

Waymo and other autonomous vehicles will have to tackle a substantial education hurdle in the decade(s) ahead. Videos like this break down on a complex subject.

Get A Horse! America’s Skepticism Toward the First Automobiles | The Saturday Evening Post

Having lived, and driven, in both San Francisco and Boston, I trust neither man nor machine.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/Persuaders-Fr.../dp/B09S26TC3R

I think that the first book is the one which the Luddites are fighting against. . . at least I am. . . you might be going along for the ride in the second one, not sure. .

I have not read them, but listened to an hour long interview with the author about the books he wrote. . its on my list

301 and Driverless
 

I recall a couple years back when 301 was reworked near Baldwin off of the 10 inner change, google maps showed I was driving through a swamp and no road was there. I’m thinking human interaction is much more dependable even with its faults.

Did your cruise control stop working because google maps didn't know about the new roads?
Did your lane control suddenly turn you towards where google maps said the roads were?
Did the car seem as confused/concerned about google maps as the human was?
Maybe the technology handled the situation better than the human did.

Humans have a hard time seeing behind them to know about a car overtaking in the lane they are about to merge into - rear-facing cameras and LiDAR sensors do not.
Humans have a hard time paying attention to three or more inputs at a time, especially in stressful situations - computers do not.
Humans tend to make quick decisions then hope for the best - computers make the best decisions quickly.

The biggest concern I would have with driverless technology is whether it could be programmed to handle the inevitable human idiots who would drive recklessly to try to cause it problems.

If I start seeing driverless cars I'm buying a bunch of traffic cones to put on the hood.

NO ONE ASKS US if we are ok sharing the road with a robot. And until we VOTE on this I'm disabling them. Its just a robot.

In the year 2525, if man is still alive, you may find driverless cars everywhere. However, for us driving enthusiasts, driving a vehicle is a passion. I love driving.....I'll drive anywhere, anyplace, anytime if I can. Where's the passion when sitting in a driverless car like a cigar store indian doing nothing. NO THANKS .....

No it didn’t
 

If I had to rely on technology, the road never existed, the car would have just sat there I guess. The Starke road was closed. Fortunately I read the detour signs, I didn’t have technology read all the deviations, I handled the situation quite well without it.

Which brings to question, “Just how reliable can an automated car be in all situations?” If a road suddenly floods out during a hurricane, I’d rather be in control. I would hate to have been on a Francis Scott Key Baltimore bridge and my car kept driving because of a hazardous situation hadn’t been updated yet.

you took the words out of my mouth. when i hear or see about these vehicles being in accident after accident, it's frightening. also: the inability for it to judge certain situations, and yes, the hacking is of great concern. i would purposely avoid being in or around 1 for fear of unexpected reactions by that vehicle

But if a satellite fell out of the sky towards your car, the cameras and sensors on the car might be able to see it and avoid it while you would be unaware of it and be hit.

If we put aside those things that we are never likely to encounter, the technology is more aware than a human, more focused than a human, more accurate than a human, and quicker to react than a human.

Never…lol
 

Ya, like you said, “NEVER”, it only happens to somebody else. Roads don’t flood in Vegas said the woman who drowned not long ago in her car in downtown Vegas during a flash flood under an overpass, NOT! Things happen.

Hmmmm. I wonder if those will also give the government ability to turn it off when they feel like it.
It’s already been talked about in California if you go over the speed limit, they will have a governor.
Another one of our freedoms taken away

No one driving across the Key Bridge was affected by the collapse.

- The collapse happened during a period of low activity
- The bridge was closed in time to prevent cars from moving across it at the time of the collapse
- Those that were killed may have been in their vehicles but the vehicles were not in motion (and certainly weren't using driverless technology)

Never seems to be a good word to use since it didn't happen to anyone.

Talked about but not implemented.
Talked about for human-driven vehicles, not driverless technology

Closed with less activity after the fact.
 

Great point, closed down after the fact though. Fortunately the freighter’s engine died late in the night and not during rush hour. I recall driving near Vero Beach and Indian River a few years back when the roads were cut off because of hurricane storm surge. It wouldn’t have been a good scenario for those driving in automated vehicles.

You shouldn’t care though, as long as it was the other guy.

This technology may work well in the sunny, dry southwest. But I understand it is challenged in rainy and snowy conditions that occur frequently in the rest of the country because the precipitation provides too much background reflection for the lidar systems.

Luddite
/ˈlʌdʌɪt/
noun
plural noun: Luddite

derogatory
1. a person opposed to new technology or ways of working.
"a small-minded Luddite resisting progress"
2.
historical
a member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woollen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16).

Never underestimate technology , not long ago I had a rental car , mine old 2008 being in the shop, the rental having much newer tech I could talk to it , asking questions, I got frustrated ,asking questions the wrong way, reverting to my inner child I used some colorful language addressing the car?computer, the car apologized, "I think of myself as a work in progress",. Fast forward several months, I now have a 2024, as an experiment I used the same language , this time the car did not give any apologies, instead it chastised me for my choice of words, at this point I think all we can do is surrender to the silicon gods that own us

It’s quite apparent that many of the negative comments here are by people who didn’t bother to watch the video because their minds were closed.

They don’t get that many things are already automated. Cars already have computers that control many functions. Elevators not longer require a person to control their motion, which was very unpopular at first.

The SpaceX Dragon crew capsule is fully automated. The Space Shuttle Orbiter had an automatic flight control system that was designed over 50 years ago. The pilots didn’t like it at all and generally avoided using it.

On the first approach and landing test of the Enterprise orbiter in 1977, the pilot got into a pilot-induced oscillation because every time he tried to correct the roll he was just a little late and each oscillation was bigger than the last. The copilot told the pilot to take his hands off the stick and the ship leveled out and landed perfectly.

Do people really think they are better drivers than an astronaut who was one of the best pilots to ever fly? I think not!