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jimmemac 06-06-2024 06:35 PM

Golf courses and lack of drinking water!!
 
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

tophcfa 06-06-2024 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

Most villagers have a cooler on their golf cart. I played Evans Prairie in this afternoon’s heat and brought two large power aid zeros, a couple bottles of water, and a cold beer for the last hole. All were nice and cold when I drank them. I wouldn’t trust drinking anything that I didn’t know its source. And the conditions at EP were very good : )

Bogie Shooter 06-06-2024 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

What did the pro say when you shared your concern?

mrf0151 06-07-2024 05:37 AM

Yea and where is the "Beer cart lady" ??

Chellybean 06-07-2024 07:42 AM

I will open a beverage supply 5 dollars for a cold bottle of water 10 dollars for a Gatorade, maybe even chicken sandwich's on the grill lmao, the villages would stop that in a hurry lol

dewilson58 06-07-2024 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most ................

3m, posting this here will get zero results.

:oops:

jimmemac 06-07-2024 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2338296)
What did the pro say when you shared your concern?

They said they didn't know how to do not safely

dewilson58 06-07-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338407)
They said they didn't know how to do not safely

That's what they said about the water stations and water pressure???

Stu from NYC 06-07-2024 09:27 AM

Surprised nobody checks the water barrels when the weather is this warm

graciegirl 06-07-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2338440)
Surprised nobody checks the water barrels when the weather is this warm

Boy Howdy. My golfer has his little Cooler on the back, right next to his divot filler. I think he was a Boy Scout because that lad seems always to be aware of the weather and prepared for it. He is prepared for GOLF. He even brings a jacket when it's cold and an umbrella just in case it EVER rains on a golf course.

I just find myself very confused about this. I am quite sure the initiator of this thread is accurate. It really has been very hot these days, almost everyone I know is mentioning the warming trends and they talk about it all of the time on T.V. too. I suppose that the water is heavily used in this kind of weather, ....and they could be running out by four. I know this...In all the years I played golf here, the ambassador folks were very helpful and not at all directing, as they were in the golf courses I played in Ohio, before we moved here. (Sometimes I wish they could be a little harsher with slow play and speak to newbies taking too long looking for lost balls..) but I have guessed that the policy is to expect good behavior from the fine older people we are and not boss them around too much.:D

Keefelane66 06-07-2024 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

The Florida Legislature voted “ have chosen to sponsor legislation that prevents cities and counties from setting workplace standards that require water, cooling measures and recovery periods after work in hot weather. Requiring companies to post or distribute materials informing workers about staying safe in swelter heat is also prohibited”
Guess this applies to you also…

Pairadocs 06-07-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2338296)
What did the pro say when you shared your concern?

Yes, that would be interesting. Thought the pro's were only contract employees, don't really know, but seems they would not be the ones to control when, where, how, if, etc. water is available. Yes, I certainly DO remember when the "ambassadors", who really never functioned as rangers, but more like hosts, a true ambassador, and always offered cold water, and a "gentle" suggestion to always keep hydrated.

Pairadocs 06-07-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2338296)
What did the pro say when you shared your concern?

Yes, that would be interesting. Thought the pro's were only contract employees, don't really know, but seems they would not be the ones to control when, where, how, if, etc. water is available. Yes, I certainly DO remember when the "ambassadors", who really never functioned as rangers, but more like hosts, a true ambassador, and always offered cold water, and a "gentle" suggestion to always keep hydrated.

Pairadocs 06-07-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

Was sorry to see that small concession/concern for residents "disappear". Suppose every penny saved is important, but to me it's a shame. Yes, will definitely HAVE to remember to take water/drinks. Just played 9 yesterday and realized what I "should" have done.... was miserable until got to drinking fountain, and then found the water unappetizing to be polite about it. Wonder why/who decided it would be a good idea to NOT have the ambassadors offer cold water ? Is there any chance that, in the future, they will begin putting "for sale" bottles of water on all ambassador carts ? I know probably not "beer/sandwich" offerings as that involves licenses, health inspections, etc. but perhaps at least selling the previously free water ? Who knows ! Have not even checked, is free water still offered to tennis and pickle ball players ?

MrFlorida 06-07-2024 01:12 PM

I learned a long time ago, not to go anywhere in Florida without bringing your own water.

Jim1mack 06-07-2024 01:26 PM

I golfed Evans Praire's Killdear nine this morning. Two water stations with cold water where I topped off the drink bottle I brought and one bathroom with drinking fountains. Plenty of water. Come prepared and drink plenty of water every hole. You’re foolish to think a cup or two of water at these three stops is enough.

justjim 06-07-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2338498)
The Florida Legislature voted “ have chosen to sponsor legislation that prevents cities and counties from setting workplace standards that require water, cooling measures and recovery periods after work in hot weather. Requiring companies to post or distribute materials informing workers about staying safe in swelter heat is also prohibited”
Guess this applies to you also…

Should have known anything that makes common sense there is a law against it.

Rwirish 06-08-2024 05:00 AM

Not poor management and not the golf courses responsibility to provide you with water.

Bring an adequate amount of water and take responsibility.

bowlingal 06-08-2024 05:30 AM

don't you have a cooler attached to your golf cart?

DARFAP 06-08-2024 05:37 AM

They need to convert the water fountains to the type that have the pour spouts for filling water bottles, like at gyms and airports.

golfing eagles 06-08-2024 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2338498)
The Florida Legislature voted “ have chosen to sponsor legislation that prevents cities and counties from setting workplace standards that require water, cooling measures and recovery periods after work in hot weather. Requiring companies to post or distribute materials informing workers about staying safe in swelter heat is also prohibited”
Guess this applies to you also…

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2338531)
Should have known anything that makes common sense there is a law against it.

Notes:

1) not yet signed by governor

2) it does not prohibit drinking water, it is aimed at prohibiting a local requirement for mandatory "work breaks" to drink or rest in shade-- OSHA already has worker protections along these lines and there may be some statewide regulation coming, but the main emphasis of this legislation is to prevent widely varying regulation from locality to locality.

kareneluck 06-08-2024 05:43 AM

Such 1st world problems. Really?!?!?!?!?!
 
I think that you might be able to figure something out on your own. We are adults at this point. It is time to stop blaming everyone else.

Mrmean58 06-08-2024 05:43 AM

Interesting. I played 18 holes at Bonifay yesterday afternoon and had zero issues with water. As a responsible adult, when I have been hearing from multiple sources that Friday was going to be a brutally hot day for many days, I took it upon myself to bring plenty of fluids. Yes the golf courses have water towers and drink fountains plus they have waters, sports drinks and sodas for sale in the starter shacks. It's the golfers that are ultimately responsible for their own hydration. Stop trying to blame others for your lack of planning.

wsachs 06-08-2024 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

Water was carried by the ambassadors for many years before Covid. They offered the water, you poured your own in paper cups and disposed of them in the cart trash can. Don't see how that would be considered unsafe.

golfing eagles 06-08-2024 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wsachs (Post 2338701)
Water was carried by the ambassadors for many years before Covid. They offered the water, you poured your own in paper cups and disposed of them in the cart trash can. Don't see how that would be considered unsafe.

It all changed with COVID, which is interesting since that virus is not transmitted by water. Rumor has it that the ambassadors themselves didn't want to carry water. Perhaps an ambassador could respond.

ThirdOfFive 06-08-2024 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim1mack (Post 2338529)
I golfed Evans Praire's Killdear nine this morning. Two water stations with cold water where I topped off the drink bottle I brought and one bathroom with drinking fountains. Plenty of water. Come prepared and drink plenty of water every hole. You’re foolish to think a cup or two of water at these three stops is enough.

I think taking personal responsibility for one's own well-being should be a given. Heading out onto to a golf course in 95 degree, 90% humidity WITHOUT taking an ample supply of water strikes me as about the same as venturing out into the woods on a hunting trip wearing tennis shoes.

jnsbill 06-08-2024 07:16 AM

Its all about the $$$

kcrazorbackfan 06-08-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2338290)
Most villagers have a cooler on their golf cart. I played Evans Prairie in this afternoon’s heat and brought two large power aid zeros, a couple bottles of water, and a cold beer for the last hole. All were nice and cold when I drank them. I wouldn’t trust drinking anything that I didn’t know its source. And the conditions at EP were very good : )

I put 2 coolers on my cart when I bought it; one has ice in it with a wet washcloth to wipe the face and neck off during the round and the other one has ice with cold water and Gatorade Zero in it. Plan for it on these days where the temp is like Arizona on the east coast.

jarodrig 06-08-2024 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2338677)
Not poor management and not the golf courses responsibility to provide you with water.

Bring an adequate amount of water and take responsibility.

I agree 100 % !! I take responsibility for myself .

But there will be the entitled few that want others to cater to them …..

Stu from NYC 06-08-2024 08:28 AM

Since golf courses have always had it people got used to it.

Topspinmo 06-08-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

Bottled water not cheap anymore, beside’s not requirement to furnish bottled water anyway.

I never rely on someone else to provide beverages for me. Beside’s with all horror stories related to water coolers won’t catch me drinking from one.

Topspinmo 06-08-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2338296)
What did the pro say when you shared your concern?

Who’s this pro you speak of?

Topspinmo 06-08-2024 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2338393)
3m, posting this here will get zero results.

:oops:

But lot of posts. :sing:

Topspinmo 06-08-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2338498)
The Florida Legislature voted “ have chosen to sponsor legislation that prevents cities and counties from setting workplace standards that require water, cooling measures and recovery periods after work in hot weather. Requiring companies to post or distribute materials informing workers about staying safe in swelter heat is also prohibited”
Guess this applies to you also…


Work vs play = apples to oranges. :Screen_of_Death:

Topspinmo 06-08-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jnsbill (Post 2338754)
Its all about the $$$

No $$$$

golfing eagles 06-08-2024 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2338814)
Bottled water not cheap anymore, beside’s not requirement to furnish bottled water anyway.

I never rely on someone else to provide beverages for me. Beside’s with all horror stories related to water coolers won’t catch me drinking from one.

What horror stories?

Singerlady 06-08-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmemac (Post 2338278)
As most golfers know the ambassadors no longer carry water with them, no big deal they say, the courses have water. Well, played Bonifay today at 4:30 with temps at 97. Yes I brought my own water as I am not a fool; figured I could refill as needed. First water station water must have been close to 90 degrees, not what I call drinkable. Second chance was at the bathroom but no you couldn't fill a cup due to lack of pressure. Third chance at last water station didn't have any water period!!! Sorry but this is unacceptable!! Remember the good old days when the ambassadors drove up and asked if you wanted some cold water; they say they can't do it safely any more when you ask. Just another example of poor golf management; or as they like to say blame it on the weather!!

I bring one Yeti, my ‘bubba’ (a 68-oz. Yeti with lots of ice), a Gatorade and sometimes frozen washcloths. Works quite well.

fdpaq0580 06-08-2024 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2338824)
What horror stories?

Shhh! Don't encourage them. 🤫🤫🙄

fdpaq0580 06-08-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2338393)
3m, posting this here will get zero results.

:oops:

Actually, OP probably feels better now that he has vented his displeasure. Mission accomplished.

jarodrig 06-08-2024 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2338805)
Since golf courses have always had it people got used to it.

We’ve had 3 + years now to get “unused to it” .

That is the not so new norm ….


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