Middleton vs TV
 

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

I’m confused by your constant fence posts. Why don’t you just buy a place with a fence? There are plenty for sale in TV with a fence. Middleton is for Families. For example, my friend bought a house in Middleton, not to live but for his son who attends the charter high school so after games and whatnot they have a place to party.

Let us know how it is?

So your friend bought a house in Middleton so his high school aged kids and their friends can party after 4 home football games and 15 home basketball games? And freshmen’s and sophomores aren’t really partying, so for 2 years.
Makes total sense.

If your friend has that kind of cash, his kid is not going to the charter school, his kid is attending some private school someplace

I know of 55+ who moved there to be within walking distance of Grands.

Biggest difference as you probably know is no access to the Lifestyle amenities but they are family focused.

Neighborhood social life is mostly through the children so a 55+ with no family there may feel a little isolated.

Walking distance to Middleton Downtown will be a big plus once it goes on over the next 5+ years.

It's mandatory parents be involved with the schools and you can see it in the children. The groups of young people at from the encounter have always been polite and respectful.

Sales and Rental properties seem to be doing well there.

200K for a brand new house isn’t “that kind of cash” lol it’s a steal….He’s a doctor here in TV and his kids absolutely go to the charter school and when they don’t need the house anymore, they’ll sell it and make a profit.

I have an issue with fences because I would like a new home and the same home with a fence and without can be 30k to 50k more! Sorry, I don't have that much to spend for a fence.

This is what I found on my first try looking for homes for sale with a fence. I don't know what your price perimeter is; Pardon Our Interruption

I am sure there are those that are less expensive. I think that you would find it better to live "IN" The Villages instead in a family community.

I am not a realtor and have never sold any homes but a couple that we lived in.

I am sure you can find a home with a fence in The Villages. It would be wise for you to come and spend a month or so here renting and taking your time to access with your boots on the ground ...in my opinion.

At any rate, I am sure you will find the perfect place and we can all......

Welcome you home.

Kinda far
 

It is kind of far from everything and you can’t golf on any executive courses without paying? Also the houses are stick construction and not built with block or concrete slab.

No, they want a brand new home with a fence. Not pre-owned. Has to be brand new but not a spec. They want to build. Because there are Courtyard Villas on sale at this very moment. I’d snatch one up if I was looking for a new fenced home here.

Watch the new build construction carefully. Price reductions are given once the developer moves on to a new area. In Lake Denham and Dabney over 250 homes saw price reductions. Many of the homes had fences. Most likely, there will be discounted homes in the Eastport area.

That's the top of my budget and I have found a few. We were wanting new but open to suggestions. I am coming for a visit but we are not retired yet so a month is out.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Very different, family versus retirement community. Totally different target markets/demographics and lifestyles. Middleton might have been great for us 35 years ago, but no thanks today.

I thought you couldn't play the executive courses at all if you didn't live in the Villages unless you had a guest ID card. And if you live in Lake, Sumter, or Marion counties you can't get a guest ID card unless you are a child or grandchild of a Villages resident. I don't think living in Middleton provides any access to the executive courses. If it does, the courses will really be crowded next winter!

What replaced the concrete slab??

You will have no access to any events/parties run by Villagers in the Rec Centers. You can't join any of the clubs. You can't use the executive golf courses except as a guest. You can't use any of the pools, pickleball courts, bocce courts, etc in TV except as a guest. You won't get discounted pricing on Championship golf.

It's not the same at all as being in "The Villages". The only thing you really get is golf cart access to The Villages.

Slabs
 

Construction slabs….Slabs are poured, transported and tilted into position for homes. They are strong, but less than ideal for repairs on electrical circuits and any other integrated components. They are also less than ideal if seismic activity occurs in an area. They are a cheaper way to build homes than using blocks though and less likely to have water leaks.

You're talking about "tilt wall" construction.

It has no bearing on whether a concrete slab is used.

Concrete slabs are use in stick built, block built and tilt wall construction. They all use the same basic foundation of concrete being poured on the ground.

Technically, tilt wall construction are concrete slabs tilted up vertically.

You can only play an exec with a resident ID or a guest pass and they are only good for 30 days. I guess they can play Championships but at a non-resident price which, in season, I suspect would be prohibitive. I also don't believe that Villages residents can use the Middleton amenities.

Sorry to be “that guy” but the process that TV’s uses is not tilt wall.

Tilt wall is built on-site tilted/lift up into place.

TV’s use a precast wall process that’s fabricated by DZ precast off-site in a factory using molds and brought to the build site and lifted into place by a crane.

You're looking for a range of opinions, and you will certainly get them on this site, but... don't you think those kinds of questions are best addressed to your villages sales rep rather than get misleading advice from others who may not be up on the latest ? As for could you play the championship courses if you purchase a home there; I'd not know why you couldn't since they are open to the public as are the "country club" restaurants. You might want to check on the "bonds", in some cases that is a reason to consider a previously owned home. The town squares are like any town square in any town, they are public and any entertainment that happens there is public and free.

Championships are definitely open to the public, rates for non resident is really outrageous

spAs meatloaf once sang back in the 80's "you took the words right out of my mouth"....LOL... I read that and thought WHAT ???? Now they are building right ON THE DIRT, or have they stated to dig basements (or better called indoor swimming pools) now ?

Some posters are in such a hurry to criticize the developer…..they don’t stop to think how stupid some comments are.

We know how good the sales reps are ! LOL

From our experience buying 2 years ago, and what we've heard from a few others, I no longer assume that most of the Villages sales reps have much knowledge on most of these types of things. We were given incorrect information on several things and it was more likely a lack of knowledge from the sales agent than deception. We got more accurate information talking to people at the squares that have lived here for awhile than from the sales agent.

Tilt wall is a generic construction term for concrete walls being “tilted” into place by a crane. My point is, it is still a “concrete slab” regardless if it was precast at a factory or poured on-site.

Agreed
 

Correct

Critical
 

I’m not sure where the critical portion of the developer is on this OPs thread, but have at it if it makes you feel better to be so negative.

I rented an airbnb place in Spanish springs before we bought almost 4 years ago and I got guest cards so we could use the amenities.
Middleton doesn’t and shouldn’t get to use TV amenities. Middleton is like Oxford Oaks, so close but so far away from what TV has to offer.
Also, if you are a guest trying to make a tee time in the winter, forget it. Anytime you put guest in as part of your foursome, you go to the bottom of the list. Plus Middleton is way too close to the schools: lights, noise, and hundreds of kids.

make sure your lanai faces north. Any lanai facing west is in for a "hot" time

The big negative for me would be the same reason why I moved to TV instead of a typical suburban neighborhood: Your neighbors will most likely have jobs and won’t be around during the day to do things with you. It’ll be more lonely.

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It sounds like the OP is fairly constrained with their house budget and a fence is just adding to that.

I don't say this disrespectfully, but TV is not for everyone. There are many other communities that offer houses with fences that are closer to their price point. This shouldn't be an issue because if OP was willing to give up all the TV benefits and amenities to move to Middleton, then other communities should be a consideration.

At least one person in each house in Middleton must work for TV, so if you are retired, forget about moving there.

This is not true. Anyone can live in Middleton. If though you have a child and want them to go to the charter school then one parent must work for TV’s or an authorized business supporting TV’s.

Doesn’t that requirement only apply to charter school attendance?

I had a tour of the DZ factory. Very impressive process for the precast walls.