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kmspla1952 06-27-2024 05:00 PM

Hammock Oaks Development & Golf
 
Did anyone see the article today in the VillageX-News about the new Hammock Oaks development on SR-466 and Cherry Lake Rd (Lady Lake) questioning about using the Villages golf facilities?

https://www.**************.com/2024/...-the-villages/

I thought that if you were a non-resident that resided in Lady Lake, Sumter, or Marion counties that you were not allowed to golf in The Villages?

Bill14564 06-27-2024 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 2344937)
Did anyone see the article today in the VillageX-News about the new Hammock Oaks development on SR-466 and Cherry Lake Rd (Lady Lake) questioning about using the Villages golf facilities?

https://www.**************.com/2024/...-the-villages/

I thought that if you were a non-resident that resided in Lady Lake, Sumter, or Marion counties that you were not allowed to golf in The Villages?

I don't think there are any restrictions on the championship courses.

Non-residents need to have a guest pass in order to golf the executives. Those in the counties you listed are only allowed to obtain a guest pass if they are a close relative of a resident.

Unless something changes, it would seem that Hammock Oaks people will only have access to the championships unless they happen to be close relatives.

shut the front door 06-27-2024 05:18 PM

The ad states: • You have your choice of 80+ golf courses in The Villages to practice your swing.

Last I checked, TV does not have 80+ championship courses. I'm wondering if TV legal dept is looking into this.

tophcfa 06-27-2024 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2344941)
The ad states: • You have your choice of 80+ golf courses in The Villages to practice your swing.

Last I checked, TV does not have 80+ championship courses. I'm wondering if TV legal dept is looking into this.

There aren’t 80+ golf courses in the Villages for the residents, even if you count putting and pitch and put courses. Non residents can only play the Championship courses at rates that don’t compete with courses outside the bubble. Sounds like blatant false advertising.

Randall55 06-27-2024 11:24 PM

The ad I read stated choice of 80+ golf courses in THE AREA. There are many golf courses OUTSIDE of the Villages.

Two Bills 06-28-2024 04:36 AM

They are riding TV regarding 'free nightly entertainment and shopping' at Spanish Springs as well.

Bill14564 06-28-2024 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2344994)
The ad I read stated choice of 80+ golf courses in THE AREA. There are many golf courses OUTSIDE of the Villages.

From the ad linked in the article referenced in post #1:
• You have your choice of 80+ golf courses in The Villages to practice your swing.

Shipping up to Boston 06-28-2024 05:28 AM

Great....another development where it’s owners...and residents spread misinformation. What will their delivery instrument be called...ToHO?!

Randall55 06-28-2024 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2345008)
From the ad linked in the article referenced in post #1:
• You have your choice of 80+ golf courses in The Villages to practice your swing.

I understand the ad said practice your swing in the villages. However, I think they may have changed the wording to choice of 80+ golf courses in THE AREA. I did not see an ad referencing villages golf when I checked their website.

Bill14564 06-28-2024 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2345017)
I understand the ad said practice your swing in the villages. However, I think they may have changed the wording to choice of 80+ golf courses in THE AREA. I did not see an ad referencing villages golf when I checked their website.

Go to the article referenced in post #1, click the link found in the article, what I quoted is the fourth bullet under The Community -> Our Location (it is there as of right now)

The statement is not true, but it is the statement in the ad.

melpetezrinski 06-28-2024 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2344970)
There aren’t 80+ golf courses in the Villages for the residents, even if you count putting and pitch and put courses. Non residents can only play the Championship courses at rates that don’t compete with courses outside the bubble. Sounds like blatant false advertising.

I count 82 including Shallow Creek.

melpetezrinski 06-28-2024 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by melpetezrinski (Post 2345033)
I count 82 including Shallow Creek.

44 Executive
30 9's on Country Clubs
I don't know if these 4 have individual courses
Orange Blossom
Shallow Creek
Southern Oaks
Tierra Del Sol

midiwiz 06-29-2024 04:27 AM

IF any of you took the time to fully read it you would know that Ryan homes, while mentioning a lot about the villages never said that hammock oaks can use the golf courses. It just said area golf courses NEAR the villages.

read next time without interpreting. face it if someone bought over there why the heck would they want to be in here?

BrianL99 06-29-2024 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2345248)
IF any of you took the time to fully read it you would know that Ryan homes, while mentioning a lot about the villages never said that hammock oaks can use the golf courses. It just said area golf courses NEAR the villages.

read next time without interpreting. face it if someone bought over there why the heck would they want to be in here?

Perhaps you should re-read what it said and "read without interpreting"?

This is what was written:

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2344941)
The ad states: • You have your choice of 80+ golf courses in The Villages to practice your swing.


:::: The Ad has now been edited/corrected ::::

dewilson58 06-29-2024 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2345017)
I understand the ad said practice your swing in the villages. However, I think they may have changed the wording to choice of 80+ golf courses in THE AREA. I did not see an ad referencing villages golf when I checked their website.

They were contacted & they changed the wording.

The sky is no longer falling in TV.

Papa_lecki 06-29-2024 07:03 AM

They can’t play the executives, unless a friend gets them a guest pass, in which case, they may play a few rounds, but the Villages will pick it up if a guest pass is playing a lot of Executive golf. TV will protect their asset (the golf courses)
they can play championships, if they pay the greens fee. If a resident of Hammock Oaks was such a big golfer, they would buy in The Villages. Yes, there might be a dozen who are trying to game the system, but I don’t anticipate a huge number of tee times being taken by Hammock Oaks residents.

Which is it? The Villages Championship courses suck, play outside the bubble, it’s a better value.
Or buy outside the Villages, and come into the bubble and play these great courses?
Hammock Oaks resident are doing what so many on TOTV preach - play outside TV.

ROCKETMAN 06-29-2024 07:08 AM

Town squares
 
As far as restaurants and shops in the town squares, they really don’t care where people live. Their money is just as good as village residents. As far as the entertainment areas, no way to stop anyone going to the music venues.

Bogie Shooter 06-29-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2345303)
They can’t play the executives, unless a friend gets them a guest pass, in which case, they may play a few rounds, but the Villages will pick it up if a guest pass is playing a lot of Executive golf. TV will protect their asset (the golf courses)
they can play championships, if they pay the greens fee. If a resident of Hammock Oaks was such a big golfer, they would buy in The Villages. Yes, there might be a dozen who are trying to game the system, but I don’t anticipate a huge number of tee times being taken by Hammock Oaks residents..

Not true. They would not be able to get a guest pass.

From Village Community Development Districts
Eligibility Requirements:
A resident with a valid resident ID card can apply for a guest ID card. A qualified guest is defined as an individual whose current residence is outside Lake, Marion and Sumter counties. A resident who has a son, daughter, grandchild or great grandchild (and their spouses) who reside in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties may apply for an in-area guest ID card.

Issuance:
Guest ID cards are issued for a guest(s) whose current residence is outside Lake, Marion and Sumter counties for up to 30 days from the issue date. Guest ID card renewals may be requested after the 30th day for an additional 30 days and renewals may continue to be issued every 30 days. The in-area guest ID card for qualified family members is valid for one year from date of issuance.

Shipping up to Boston 06-29-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2345304)
As far as restaurants and shops in the town squares, they really don’t care where people live. Their money is just as good as village residents. As far as the entertainment areas, no way to stop anyone going to the music venues.


That’s what most will never understand about the squares. Yes it’s an amenity to TV community but the developer knows it can’t sustain itself solely on those seeking to redeem 15% off ‘I’m old’ discounts and occupying seats all day/night with water and lemon wedges. It’s marketing by other developments and neighboring communities are the heartbeat of its success, growth and sustainability.

dougawhite 06-29-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2345248)
IF any of you took the time to fully read it you would know that Ryan homes, while mentioning a lot about the villages never said that hammock oaks can use the golf courses. It just said area golf courses NEAR the villages.

read next time without interpreting. face it if someone bought over there why the heck would they want to be in here?

They changed their website after many Villagers complained to them. Now it reads, "You have your choice of area golf courses near The Villages to practice your swing."

DARFAP 06-29-2024 12:19 PM

No matter the case, if it is here (TV), they will come. People walk on the execs and play after the last tee time (course closed). There is no ID checker, nor ambassador. Guaranteed not all of these people are Villagers, nor the guest of Villagers.

Bogie Shooter 06-29-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DARFAP (Post 2345440)
No matter the case, if it is here (TV), they will come. People walk on the execs and play after the last tee time (course closed). There is no ID checker, nor ambassador. Guaranteed not all of these people are Villagers, nor the guest of Villagers.

Guaranteed? How so?

Shipping up to Boston 06-29-2024 06:30 PM

You know the lyrics.....if it’s said on TOTV.....it’s a guarantee

Pairadocs 06-29-2024 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2345008)
From the ad linked in the article referenced in post #1:
• You have your choice of 80+ golf courses in The Villages to practice your swing.

Hummm ? Wonder what they are referring to ? ? Seems no one would take a chance (legally) to advertise something like that, and yes, "80+ courses in the Villages", even that part makes you wonder why they would take such a chance ?

Pairadocs 06-29-2024 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2344994)
The ad I read stated choice of 80+ golf courses in THE AREA. There are many golf courses OUTSIDE of the Villages.

"Area" much smarter choice for public advertising I'd say....lol... The Villages seems to have an extensive legal bench, I'd not want to tempt fate. Still, even using "area", 80 courses in this area where non residents/public can play seems a stretch, but perhaps so. Spruce Creek, Del Webb, Water Oak, and so many retirement communities south of Leesburg and Ocala are all open to non residents so might be 80, but sure not "golf cart accessible" LOL, LOL !

4$ALE 06-29-2024 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2345533)
Hummm ? Wonder what they are referring to ? ? Seems no one would take a chance (legally) to advertise something like that, and yes, "80+ courses in the Villages", even that part makes you wonder why they would take such a chance ?

:rolleyes: Maybe "Alissa Heinerscheid" is in charge of their advertising?? :shrug:

Indydealmaker 06-29-2024 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2345019)
Go to the article referenced in post #1, click the link found in the article, what I quoted is the fourth bullet under The Community -> Our Location (it is there as of right now)

The statement is not true, but it is the statement in the ad.

Dead Link.

Indydealmaker 06-29-2024 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2345252)
Perhaps you should re-read what it said and "read without interpreting"?

This is what was written:




:::: The Ad has now been edited/corrected ::::

I wonder if Mita Minton deliberately orchestrated the misinformation as part of her ongoing crusade against The Villages as her former employer.

Bill14564 06-30-2024 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2345550)
Dead Link.

The link in the first post does not work as it points to the news source which shall not be named. You can still open that site manually and find the article.

The link in the article still works.

As has been mentioned previously, the ad has now been edited to remove the incorrect information.


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