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Bay Kid 07-30-2024 05:38 AM

Rock bedding
 
I want to have my rock bedding redone around the house. The weeds are winning. Any reasonable suggestions?

retiredguy123 07-30-2024 05:42 AM

Choice Maintenance.

If you like the rocks, all you need is for them to remove the rocks, replace the black weed barrier and reinstall the rocks.

ThirdOfFive 07-30-2024 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2354412)
I want to have my rock bedding redone around the house. The weeds are winning. Any reasonable suggestions?

Round up.

dewilson58 07-30-2024 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2354451)
Round up.

I agree.

I walk our rocks twice per month and I won.

:pepper2:

tophcfa 07-30-2024 08:22 AM

The most sure fire way to beat the weeds is to completely eliminate the garden and rock bedding and plant grass.

villagetinker 07-30-2024 08:23 AM

OP, if you do some research, the weed barriers are ineffective, I now know from firsthand experience, so I agree with above, get a good weed killer, with a battery powered extension wand, and hand spray for the weeds, very effective and very low cost.

KAM+6 07-30-2024 09:51 AM

Posting a photo may help response.

Bomarsh 07-30-2024 10:06 AM

Roofing felt, roll it out, cut width to size , replace rock and you will not see another weed there again. I did mine 4 yrs. ago still no weeds.

Maker 07-30-2024 10:37 AM

Dirt will still accumulate on top of weed barrier fabrics. Weeds will grow. It is not very effective as it ages.

How are you getting rid of weeds now? Pulling them? They will grow back because parts of the roots will break off. Every broken off part will grow into an entirely new weed. So pulling them makes them grow back worse.

Here is the way to solve the weed problem. As suggested, spray a weed killer such as round up. That kills the weed all the way to the root. Only spray on a very calm day. Wind will blow it onto things you don't want to kill. Now wait a week for it to work. Then pull what remains, but you can leave it and it will shrivel up and disappear.

Highly caution against using salt or vinegar solutions. They may kill the weeds, but it also contaminates the soil. As those migrate with rain or irrigation, they will kill shrubs and flowers. Replacements plants will also die once their roots are exposed to them.

There are 2 versions of weed killers.
The one you want for your garden is active for a few hours after being applied. Once exposed to sunlight it becomes benign.
The other type is a long lasting type. You want that for driveway cracks where you never want things to grow. Never use that in a flower bed because water will spread it around (just like salt or vinegar) and kills grass, shrubs, flowers, etc, for a year or longer.

villagetinker 07-30-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomarsh (Post 2354542)
Roofing felt, roll it out, cut width to size , replace rock and you will not see another weed there again. I did mine 4 yrs. ago still no weeds.

Since this is impermeable, I am guessing your trees and flowers need a lot of hand watering, at least the "weed mat" lets water go through. I would guess this also interferes with fertilizing
the plants. Glad it works for you.

UpNorth 07-30-2024 11:44 AM

You might want to try pine straw. Cheap, easy, and pretty effective in blocking out sunlight which the weeds need to grow. Allows water to get to your shrubs. It's what you see The Villages management using to keep the weeds down everywhere. You may or may not like the looks of it at first, but you will probably like it over time. You might just be able to put it over your rock bed if you don't want to remove the rocks. As it slowly breaks down, you just throw some more on top. Lowes and Home Depot sell truckloads of the stuff each year.

Bomarsh 07-30-2024 05:57 PM

You guessed wrong, the person was asking what to place under a rock bedding , not a flower garden landscape. I suggested one possible solution that I came up with that worked around my foundation.

Papa_lecki 07-30-2024 06:05 PM

What happened to me was the type of rock we picked notoriously has extra dirt when they are put down - they are a sort of moon rock.
If you are going to have the rocks if Ted and relaid - make sure you rinse the rocks before replacing them

Miboater 07-30-2024 09:05 PM

I've had good luck using Preen to keep the majority of weeds away and then using roundup for the few that get through. The Preen application seems to work for about 6 months before needing to reapply.

dsiebenberger 07-31-2024 04:50 AM

I jammed my leaf blower into the rocks and cleaned all the junk out of my rocks. Then sprayed Barricade 4FL herbicide. Active ingredient is 40.7% Prodiamine. Bought from Amazon. Saved myself a lot of money. I thought I needed more rock but ended up having pretty thick rock without all the sand and gunk in it.

waterflower 07-31-2024 04:50 AM

Roundup= glyphosate is a carcinogen (cancer-causing agent). Vinegar, cheap table salt & a dish soap will not harm you or animals.

Paula Pinney 07-31-2024 04:56 AM

Weeds
 
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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2354500)
OP, if you do some research, the weed barriers are ineffective, I now know from firsthand experience, so I agree with above, get a good weed killer, with a battery powered extension wand, and hand spray for the weeds, very effective and very low cost.

I use one gallon white vinegar, one cup salt, and tablespoon on Dawn to kill my weeds. Safe and it works!

Bellavita 07-31-2024 05:17 AM

[rock and plants don’t mix and in time weeds come through the membrane just sayin



QUOTE=Bay Kid;2354412]I want to have my rock bedding redone around the house. The weeds are winning. Any reasonable suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Morgkell 07-31-2024 05:22 AM

How to not weed😁
 
I also have rocks in my garden. I pull out all the weeds then scatter either Preen or Spectracide every other month over the rocks. Both stop new weeds from growing. Spectracide is cheaper and comes in a large bag. I love not weeding!

Sandy and Ed 07-31-2024 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomarsh (Post 2354542)
Roofing felt, roll it out, cut width to size , replace rock and you will not see another weed there again. I did mine 4 yrs. ago still no weeds.

And no drainage.

aldeana 07-31-2024 06:12 AM

Rock bedding
 
Weeds will grow on a grain of dirt. Do not use Roundup (glyphosate). It will kill you (slowly) and will kill the pollinators. Get garden vinegar (30%) at Home Depot or any garden store. You may have to order ahead, but at HD I got it within 2 days. Pick up at the store to avoid shipping costs. Use a spray bottle to apply.

Markus 07-31-2024 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2354557)
You might want to try pine straw. Cheap, easy, and pretty effective in blocking out sunlight which the weeds need to grow. Allows water to get to your shrubs. It's what you see The Villages management using to keep the weeds down everywhere. You may or may not like the looks of it at first, but you will probably like it over time. You might just be able to put it over your rock bed if you don't want to remove the rocks. As it slowly breaks down, you just throw some more on top. Lowes and Home Depot sell truckloads of the stuff each year.

the problem with it is during the rainy season it stays damp underneath the pine stray which is the breading grown for earwigs.

robertaonlowry 07-31-2024 06:17 AM

Fernview Farms. They spray monthly. Used them fir a year. They are great. 352.245.7905

retiredguy123 07-31-2024 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2354713)
Roundup= glyphosate is a carcinogen (cancer-causing agent). Vinegar, cheap table salt & a dish soap will not harm you or animals.

According the EPA, it is not a carcinogen and it is safe to use.

namdoog55 07-31-2024 07:07 AM

I just bought a weed torch on Amazon - and haven't had to call the fire dept yet! But not sure this gets to the roots although others on this forum seemed to have success.

Rocksnap 07-31-2024 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by namdoog55 (Post 2354750)
I just bought a weed torch on Amazon - and haven't had to call the fire dept yet! But not sure this gets to the roots although others on this forum seemed to have success.

Was making my way thru the comments, after weeding thru all the chemical/poison comments. Ready to pounce on my weed torch thought. Lo and behold, you just beat me to it.
Not much to worry about catching on fire in a rock garden.

BlkBlt6 07-31-2024 08:14 AM

Rock bedding redone
 
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2354412)
I want to have my rock bedding redone around the house. The weeds are winning. Any reasonable suggestions?

In all of my previous houses and the one in the Villages, I’ve always had construction (very very thick) plastic put down then the rocks. Never a problem with weeds except if there is a little space between the plastic and the sidewalk.

LeRoySmith 07-31-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2354759)
Was making my way thru the comments, after weeding thru all the chemical/poison comments. Ready to pounce on my weed torch thought. Lo and behold, you just beat me to it.
Not much to worry about catching on fire in a rock garden.

I'm using a weed torch too. I make a quick walk around once a week and scorch the weeds in the beds and grass around the sprinklers. It seems to be working but I'm not sure it's a good long term solution.

UpNorth 07-31-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus (Post 2354731)
the problem with it is during the rainy season it stays damp underneath the pine stray which is the breading grown for earwigs.

Never seen one in my pine straw mulch, but if I did, a small amount of granular insecticide would take care of them. Unless you are growing vegetables or delicate flowers, earwigs aren't capable of doing much damage. And they eat more harmful insects.

FredMitchell 07-31-2024 08:50 AM

You can't win. Just wage an endless war, or resign / pull out.

Weeds are like Viet Nam or Afghanistan. They'll still be there when you aren't.

miadford@gmail.com 07-31-2024 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paula Pinney (Post 2354715)
I use one gallon white vinegar, one cup salt, and tablespoon on Dawn to kill my weeds. Safe and it works!

How long does the vinegar solution work?

nn0wheremann 07-31-2024 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2354412)
I want to have my rock bedding redone around the house. The weeds are winning. Any reasonable suggestions?

I used to use Preen as a pre-emergent, and Roundup as a post emergent. I found a sale on Roundup Pre-emergent, and it has worked better than anything else. I read somewhere that plain old table salt will dry up weeds in rocks too. I am going to try sowing some rock salt on the rocks next. All of this has been almost asmuch fun as defeating the dandelions when we lived in Chicagoland.

nn0wheremann 07-31-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by miadford@gmail.com (Post 2354837)
How long does the vinegar solution work?

Vinegar drys up the leaves, but lets the weed’s root live. It seems to work for a couple of weeks at a time.

DonnaNi4os 07-31-2024 01:38 PM

Try a weed torch. I’ve found it to be a quick and easy solution without using chemicals

DonnaNi4os 07-31-2024 01:40 PM

I love mine and run the sprinklers for five minutes when I’m done…just in case.

yellowtownhouse 07-31-2024 11:31 PM

Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomarsh (Post 2354542)
Roofing felt, roll it out, cut width to size , replace rock and you will not see another weed there again. I did mine 4 yrs. ago still no weeds.

Where can you purchase roofing felt? Thanks

bobeaston 08-01-2024 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowtownhouse (Post 2354924)
Where can you purchase roofing felt? Thanks

Lowes, Home Depot, etc.

waterflower 08-01-2024 06:12 AM

EPA is a unit of the industry they represent, to protect their profits not your health.Since you feel that roundup is safe, drink a cup every day. See if they are telling the truth.The government or any affiliate corporation does not care about your health.

Pdesensi 08-01-2024 06:25 AM

Did that. Then the wind blows in debris and dirt and the weeds appear again. Ugh

brianherlihy 08-01-2024 06:45 AM

i put rock down 2 years i have one or two in a month i have weed block and plastic i put the stone down my self dont have them du it hear ripe you off bad


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