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village dreamer 08-30-2024 08:38 PM

boars head
 
how can a multi Millon dollar business act like that??? 9 dead and lots sick. this is not the first company to do this, lots of chop meat company's have made people sick. i guess quality control is nonexistent. and the meat inspectors not doing the job. well i don't think I'm buying boars head anytime soon.

JRcorvette 08-30-2024 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2365764)
how can a multi Millon dollar business act like that??? 9 dead and lots sick. this is not the first company to do this, lots of chop meat company's have made people sick. i guess quality control is nonexistent. and the meat inspectors not doing the job. well i don't think I'm buying boars head anytime soon.


they will probably go out of business if they don’t have enough insurance. That is the brand that Publix pushes all the time!!! Oh well Deli Meat is bad for you regardless.

Stu from NYC 08-30-2024 09:26 PM

Always thought they were over rated and now they will probably be out of business soom

fdpaq0580 08-30-2024 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2365779)
Always thought they were over rated and now they will probably be out of business soom

They will probably file bankruptcy, shuffle the board members, fire a few lower level managers and re-open as newly formed and improved Boar's Head, or have a different name altogether. The corporate heads will be fine.

Two Bills 08-31-2024 02:31 AM

Processed food debilitates, and sometimes a killer..
My wife and I stopped eating it as much as possible, many years ago.
Felt better within months of stopping.
Fresh food reigns. OK!

Eg_cruz 08-31-2024 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2365764)
how can a multi Millon dollar business act like that??? 9 dead and lots sick. this is not the first company to do this, lots of chop meat company's have made people sick. i guess quality control is nonexistent. and the meat inspectors not doing the job. well i don't think I'm buying boars head anytime soon.

Truly can’t remember the last time I bought deli meat
And yes shame on them.
What I don’t understand buy is their products still on the shelves

Byte1 08-31-2024 04:10 AM

There is always the old reliable SPAM in a can. Been around for a very long time, and has many recipes created that utilize the fine cuzine, SPAM. :mmmm:

dewilson58 08-31-2024 05:11 AM

Bankruptcy, Quality Controls, Act that way...............Over reaction.

Unfortunately, even the best of food processing companies have errors and recalls.
The USA has the safest food supply in the world.

Meat to cereal to candy to baby food to frozen foods, etc., errors happen with the best quality controls.

:duck:

Caymus 08-31-2024 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2365803)
Bankruptcy, Quality Controls, Act that way...............Over reaction.

Unfortunately, even the best of food processing companies have errors and recalls.
The USA has the safest food supply in the world.

Meat to cereal to candy to baby food to frozen foods, etc., errors happen with the best quality controls.

:duck:

But, how many killed 9 people and sent many more to hospitals?

dewilson58 08-31-2024 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2365829)
But, how many killed 9 people and sent many more to hospitals?

125,000 to the hospital and 3,000 deaths last year alone.

Michael 61 08-31-2024 07:03 AM

Although there is no truly safe option (other than maybe growing all your food yourself), I do try to minimize the risk, by staying clear of processed foods, added sugars, bad oils, ingredients that are added to extend shelf life, fast foods and deli meats.

Caymus 08-31-2024 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2365834)
125,000 to the hospital and 3,000 deaths last year alone.

From one identifiable source?

dewilson58 08-31-2024 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2365841)
From one identifiable source?

You know the answer, what's the point of your question.


:loco::loco:

ThirdOfFive 08-31-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2365793)
Processed food debilitates, and sometimes a killer..
My wife and I stopped eating it as much as possible, many years ago.
Felt better within months of stopping.
Fresh food reigns. OK!

True words.

Back in the day we grew, raised or shot most of our own food. It fed a family of seven pretty reliably year-round with trips to the grocery store (25 mile drive one way) maybe once a month for staples like flour, coffee, seasonings, etc. etc. Milk and eggs were from local farmers. Some of our food was "processed" but for the most part we processed it ourselves. Every fall was sausage-making time, we'd shoot a couple of deer, buy a pig from a nearby farmer who raised them and make maybe 150 - 200 lbs. of sausage which we smoked ourselves. Mom would bake five loaves of bread twice a week. And so on. I rarely recall being sick: in fact one cousin who lived nearby (and ate pretty much the same diet as we did) didn't miss a day of school because of illness for eight straight years.

Today I confess to being hooked on Polish sausage (and Andouille sausage which is an acceptable substitute because you can't really get real Polish sausage down here) and Flipper's pizza about once a month. But my wife is a fantastic cook and very little of our diet aside from the sausage is processed. We're both healthy and active septuagenarians.

Bill14564 08-31-2024 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2365841)
From one identifiable source?

15 from cantaloupe in 2023. Data are hard to find but multiple deaths from one identifiable source happen. (not 3,000 deaths from one source but that obviously was not the claim being made)

Topspinmo 08-31-2024 08:36 AM

It wasn’t intentional like some chemical business dumping the hazardous waste in rivers, mining processes (Picher OK good example) contaminating ground water or asbestos industries killing thousands and new it. Food processing in general accident waiting to happen

How many even know About Picher OK?

Girlcopper 09-01-2024 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2365829)
But, how many killed 9 people and sent many more to hospitals?

Thats a small number of people since it impacts the whole U.S. I have no clue how anyone sees bankruptcy coming. Kinda over dramatic!

gbs317 09-01-2024 04:51 AM

July 2024 Product Recall Information

From the BoarsHead website.

Ele201 09-01-2024 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2366068)
Thats a small number of people since it impacts the whole U.S. I have no clue how anyone sees bankruptcy coming. Kinda over dramatic!

I see your point in terms of the tremendous amount of the company’s deli meat sold nationwide at thousands of deli counters and restaurants — compared with the small number of those sickened. On the other hand, one dead or sick is one too many. There are lawsuits underway against the company: one in Missouri by an 88 year old woman whose liverwurst was tainted, for example. And a class action suit is underway in New York.Company will probably survive but will need a major PR campaign to regain consumer confidence.

ithos 09-01-2024 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2365781)
They will probably file bankruptcy, shuffle the board members, fire a few lower level managers and re-open as newly formed and improved Boar's Head, or have a different name altogether. The corporate heads will be fine.

Bluebell survived. Should be very similar process and PR campaign.
Office of Public Affairs | Blue Bell Creameries Ordered To Pay $17.25 Million In Criminal Penalties In Connection With 2015 Listeria Contamination | United States Department of Justice

Federspiel 09-01-2024 06:43 AM

Love Boars Head
 
I guess I will have to die of something. I always figured living in the sunshine state with skin cancer would get me first, or more likely gluttony.

maistocars 09-01-2024 07:05 AM

Who still eats Liverwurst these days?

BlkBlt6 09-01-2024 07:06 AM

Boars Head Meat
 
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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2365767)
they will probably go out of business if they don’t have enough insurance. That is the brand that Publix pushes all the time!!! Oh well Deli Meat is bad for you regardless.

Actually, Boars Head lunch meat is higher quality as compared to most. This type of bacteria can happen in any food source. It’s awful…I won’t be buying it soon.

Cuervo 09-01-2024 07:22 AM

It's Boar Head today, tomorrow it's Tesla or Ford, Boeing.
This problem is not isolated to any one company.
This is what you get when you put profits over safety.
A company starts with a good product and as they start to expand, they hire the bean counters to maximize the profits.
These hire guns jobs have one job, to increase profits and if they have to cut corners to do so they will do it without thinking twice about safety.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-01-2024 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2366127)
It's Boar Head today, tomorrow it's Tesla or Ford, Boeing.
This problem is not isolated to any one company.
This is what you get when you put profits over safety.
A company starts with a good product and as they start to expand, they hire the bean counters to maximize the profits.
These hire guns jobs have one job, to increase profits and if they have to cut corners to do so they will do it without thinking twice about safety.

Think about that next time you bring up the idea of retiring to The Villages with your friends from back home.

dewilson58 09-01-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2366127)
It's Boar Head today, tomorrow it's Tesla or Ford, Boeing.
This problem is not isolated to any one company.
This is what you get when you put profits over safety.
A company starts with a good product and as they start to expand, they hire the bean counters to maximize the profits.
These hire guns jobs have one job, to increase profits and if they have to cut corners to do so they will do it without thinking twice about safety.

clueless & sad

Villager24 09-01-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2365764)
how can a multi Millon dollar business act like that??? 9 dead and lots sick. this is not the first company to do this, lots of chop meat company's have made people sick. i guess quality control is nonexistent. and the meat inspectors not doing the job. well i don't think I'm buying boars head anytime soon.

Absolutely disgusting. And they market themselves as a premium product. SMH.

Boar'''s Head plant linked to deadly outbreak broke food safety rules: Records | AP News

Two Bills 09-01-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2366127)
It's Boar Head today, tomorrow it's Tesla or Ford, Boeing.


This problem is not isolated to any one company.
This is what you get when you put profits over safety.
A company starts with a good product and as they start to expand, they hire the bean counters to maximize the profits.
These hire guns jobs have one job, to increase profits and if they have to cut corners to do so they will do it without thinking twice about safety.

Not many people eat their products though.

tamaraoakley 09-01-2024 07:36 AM

Are there any places around here that you can buy farm eggs or meat from butcher. We are from Ohio and we had easy access to farm eggs and a local butcher.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-01-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tamaraoakley (Post 2366138)
Are there any places around here that you can buy farm eggs or meat from butcher. We are from Ohio and we had easy access to farm eggs and a local butcher.

Best Meats on 301 offers both chubs and their own ground beef, they also cut meat to order in addition to keeping freezer cases of cut meats.

For eggs, you could check the farmer's market at Rolling Acres. I think they're re-opening this month on Tuesday mornings. Sometimes there's an egg lady. If you find her, you can ask her location. She also sells out of her farm, not just at the market.

airstreamingypsy 09-01-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2366117)
Who still eats Liverwurst these days?

It's great for giving your dog pills. The pill smooshes into it.

Cuervo 09-01-2024 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2366131)
Think about that next time you bring up the idea of retiring to The Villages with your friends from back home.

Not sure what your response has to do with what I posted.

DAVES 09-01-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2365764)
how can a multi Millon dollar business act like that??? 9 dead and lots sick. this is not the first company to do this, lots of chop meat company's have made people sick. i guess quality control is nonexistent. and the meat inspectors not doing the job. well i don't think I'm buying boars head anytime soon.

Not familiar with the story but you do not want to know what goes into a hotdog, sausage or salami, the meat is ground together so if one piece is contaminated it all is. Retelling an old story. A friend went to deli by his home. not in florida, and bought a hero. He got some kind of infection that damaged his heart and last I heard he was on disability As I said old story. Cause? Was it the hero? Coincidence? The deli burned down shortly after.

You never know. Also not fla, we used to go to a Chinese takeout place like once a week.
I saw the cook sharpen his knife on the floor and continue cutting food.

Food standards say so many bugs per. Like the lottery winners are rare but someone gets the bug.

Alarmed 09-01-2024 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2365829)
But, how many killed 9 people and sent many more to hospitals?

Jack in the Box killed quite a few.

Ecuadog 09-01-2024 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2366117)
Who still eats Liverwurst these days?

I do.

Bill14564 09-01-2024 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarmed (Post 2366184)
Jack in the Box killed quite a few.

Google says two or four depending on how you count secondary infections.

Stu from NYC 09-01-2024 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarmed (Post 2366184)
Jack in the Box killed quite a few.

Have not seen one for years. Are they still around?

dougawhite 09-01-2024 10:51 AM

9 Deaths is Very Low
 
350 children under the age of five drown in pools each year nationwide. The majority of the deaths occur in June, July and August; most in backyard pools.

jimjamuser 09-01-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2365764)
how can a multi Millon dollar business act like that??? 9 dead and lots sick. this is not the first company to do this, lots of chop meat company's have made people sick. i guess quality control is nonexistent. and the meat inspectors not doing the job. well i don't think I'm buying boars head anytime soon.

I would guess that the problem is NOT ENOUGH inspectors. People clamor for fewer government regulations up UNTIL there are problems, then they CLAMOR for more regulations.

Boomer 09-01-2024 11:12 AM

Charcuterie? Anyone?
 
Spinach killed in 2006. Romaine and cantaloupe have been guilty, too. I know awful things can happen with the food industry but according to reports, violations were obvious at that Virginia plant. Where was the plant manager?

Boar’s Head has spent a fortune building its brand — which I admit had lulled me into a false sense of security on the rare occasion when I bought “lunch meat” — as we from my neck of the woods call it.

It will be a very long time before I get past this, if ever.

Was Boar’s Head cutting corners with employees and production while directing money into branding?

Boar’s Head had even built a rather elitist mode into certain grocery chains, where Boar’s Head was available only in specific neighborhoods. That big, price-gouging chain that is based in Ohio — and is trying to get even bigger — is known to have varying levels of stores depending on the net worth of the neighborhoods. There was a time when not every store in the chain was entitled to Boar’s Head. Might still be that way……And now, here it is….

The emperor is stark nekkid.

Even though this killer outbreak was supposedly confined to certain versions of the Boar’s Head products from one plant, I cannot help but think this mess will take its toll on the charcuterie fad…..

Charcuterie is everywhere now……

with books with pictures of veritable works of art (which the first person in line wrecks)

— and pretty boards and tiny dishes and fancy jams and every kind of olive imaginable and every shape of crackers, gluten-free and otherwise…..

and — starring processed meats!

Charcuterie boards surely have been a boon to the mystery meat business.

Will we ever look at charcuterie boards in the same way?

Or can the cheese stand alone and carry on, with all that pretty stuff around it. No meat in sight, for a while, anyway.

Boar’s Head, you will find out how far your half-assedness is going to reach.

Boomer


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