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Rainger99 10-03-2024 10:03 AM

Anyone started panic buying yet??
 
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retiredguy123 10-03-2024 10:08 AM

Yes. I just returned from Publix, and half of the toilet paper shelves were empty.

Hint - you can buy toilet paper from Amazon for a lot less money and it is way more convenient.

Bill14564 10-03-2024 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375787)
Yes. I just returned from Publix, and half of the toilet paper shelves were empty.

Hint - you can buy toilet paper from Amazon for a lot less money and it is way more convenient.

I'm sure they are not panic buying. It's just the first part of the month and the beginning of Fall and they always buy three or four double-packs of toilet paper at this time of the year.

fdpaq0580 10-03-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375785)

Desperate times require desperate measures! The Daily Sun is my emergency supply.

(Just a joke.)

Caymus 10-03-2024 10:47 AM

Just coffee. That is one of the items that I use (too much). Most other east coast imported items I use are perishable.

During Covid I worked for a company that made components used in the manufacturing of toilet paper, paper towels and disinfectant wipes. Those were busy times.

Pugchief 10-03-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375787)
Yes. I just returned from Publix, and half of the toilet paper shelves were empty.

Hint - you can buy toilet paper from Amazon for a lot less money and it is way more convenient.

Or Walmart or Target or Costco or Sam's. Why would anyone buy TP at Publix unless they were in a huge hurry and it was an "emergency"?

Pugchief 10-03-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2375795)
Just coffee. That is one of the items that I use (too much). Most other east coast imported items I use are perishable.

During Covid I worked for a company that made components used in the manufacturing of toilet paper, paper towels and disinfectant wipes. Those were busy times.

Coffee in particular is going to be an issue due to crop problems compounding the strike.

UpNorth 10-03-2024 12:32 PM

Bananas are likely to become scarce soon.

Pondboy 10-03-2024 01:03 PM

So you know it’s only items that come from overseas that MIGHT be affected if the strike goes on for a few weeks.

Toilet paper is not imported. So you’re just causing a panic buy.

asianthree 10-03-2024 01:05 PM

Noticed slight uptick at retail/grocery on 10/1, in Gainesville. Parents with UF kids shopping, not sure if it was the routine stock dorm room, or concern over dock issues.
Zero empty shelves, at WF, TJ’s, Sam’s. On the other hand KK cases were almost empty and had to wait 20 minutes. Bonus box of dozen HOT was worth it.:a040:

kansasr 10-03-2024 01:35 PM

Clearly from my visit to Publix this morning, the answer is YES. IDIOTS.

retiredguy123 10-03-2024 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2375810)
Or Walmart or Target or Costco or Sam's. Why would anyone buy TP at Publix unless they were in a huge hurry and it was an "emergency"?

Agreed, but I am amazed at how much money, gas, and time I save by buying everything I can from Amazon. It all comes to my front porch.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-03-2024 01:47 PM

Toilet paper sold in the United States is made in the United States. People who hoard toilet paper as a result of the port strike are - less intelligent than the average tree frog.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-03-2024 03:14 PM

BJ's was OUT of toilet paper as of around 10 this morning, according to the guy who checks the receipts at the exit door.

Walmart still had some, but not much. One guy came out of that aisle with NINE 8-packs in his shopping cart.

Buncha maroons.

justjim 10-03-2024 03:16 PM

Maybe some older people tend to panic more than others. Just saying.

DARFAP 10-03-2024 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375787)
Yes. I just returned from Publix, and half of the toilet paper shelves were empty.

Hint - you can buy toilet paper from Amazon for a lot less money and it is way more convenient.

Hint: TP is made in the USA. It's not brought in on ships at these ports. Stop hoarding.

retiredguy123 10-03-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DARFAP (Post 2375852)
Hint: TP is made in the USA. It's not brought in on ships at these ports. Stop hoarding.

I am not hoarding anything. But, what difference does it make where it is made? If people are buying it all, there will be a shortage.

I would also point out that I have Scott and Charmin toilet paper, and both packages state that it is made in the USA from domestic and "imported" materials. So, you are not correct that it is made in the USA if they need imported materials to make it.

retiredguy123 10-03-2024 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375856)
OBB brought this up...
90% of toilet paper is manufactured in US and transported by rail and trucks. Port really doesn't apply. Unless Amazon is buying the other 10% from parts unknown!

If it is made using imported materials, then it is not made in the USA. A lot of companies sell clothing that they claim is made in the USA, but they use import fabric to "make" it. Almost all fabric is imported. Toilet paper is also made using imported materials. Read the label.

Caymus 10-03-2024 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2375833)
Toilet paper sold in the United States is made in the United States. People who hoard toilet paper as a result of the port strike are - less intelligent than the average tree frog.

But people may have to switch "grits". Much of the softer types is made with eucalyptus pulp imported from Brazil- don't know which ports they used. Some is made with Bamboo -probably use west coast ports. Other grades, especially commercial grades use recycled paper or basic wood pulp - most of that is domestic.

CarlR33 10-03-2024 05:24 PM

Yup, just was at a Winn Dixie and it was a little low. One woman picked up a large pack of TP and put it back down saying I got enough yesterday…….really

MrFlorida 10-03-2024 05:36 PM

Just use the rest room at Publix.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-03-2024 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375859)
I am not hoarding anything. But, what difference does it make where it is made? If people are buying it all, there will be a shortage.

I would also point out that I have Scott and Charmin toilet paper, and both packages state that it is made in the USA from domestic and "imported" materials. So, you are not correct that it is made in the USA if they need imported materials to make it.

Yes, some of the wood used to make the pulp that makes the toilet paper is imported from Canada.

The ink used to create the label on the plastic packaging is made primarily in the USA (we are the world's largest exporters of ink), although some might be manufactured in Japan and China.

asianthree 10-03-2024 06:01 PM

Today wasn’t there a deal to suspend the strike until January?

Bill14564 10-03-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375867)
If it is made using imported materials, then it is not made in the USA. A lot of companies sell clothing that they claim is made in the USA, but they use import fabric to "make" it. Almost all fabric is imported. Toilet paper is also made using imported materials. Read the label.

Semantics, but if it is created/manufactured/built/fabricated/made in the USA then it is made in the USA. It may be made from imported items (I imagine most things are) but it is made in the USA.

It is also true that it does not matter where it is made if you can’t get the materials to make it.

And, if idiots (Villagers and others) buy two-years' worth of toilet paper then there is going to be a shortage. The shortage will have very little to do with the strike and very much to do with ignorance and selfishness.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-03-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2375875)
But people may have to switch "grits". Much of the softer types is made with eucalyptus pulp imported from Brazil- don't know which ports they used. Some is made with Bamboo -probably use west coast ports. Other grades, especially commercial grades use recycled paper or basic wood pulp - most of that is domestic.

SOME of the brands use eucalyptus pulp in their softer TP varieties. They don't have to though, and MOST toilet paper is made using trees grown in North America and (to a much lesser degree) Mexico. Bamboo TP is a "trend" thing only available in a few brands at ultra-premium prices, and not something anyone would buy at your local Walmart, Publix, or Costco.

OrangeBlossomBaby 10-03-2024 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375867)
If it is made using imported materials, then it is not made in the USA. A lot of companies sell clothing that they claim is made in the USA, but they use import fabric to "make" it. Almost all fabric is imported. Toilet paper is also made using imported materials. Read the label.

Most of the wood used to make toilet paper in the United States came from trees grown in the United States. Some of it comes from Canada. It isn't toilet paper when it comes here. It's wood. It's reduced to pulp - in the United States. And then it's processed into toilet paper - in the United States. It's packaged - in the United States.

The toilet paper is made in the United States. It isn't toilet paper at all until the manufacturers manufacture it - in the United States. Until then, it's logs from trees.

retiredguy123 10-03-2024 06:20 PM

The title of this thread is about panic buying. If panic buying occurs, it doesn't matter where anything is made. Panic buying alone can create a shortage.

Caymus 10-03-2024 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2375880)
Today wasn’t there a deal to suspend the strike until January?

Yes, until Jan 15th.

JustSomeGuy 10-03-2024 07:23 PM

Just an FYI, all the paper products you see in Publix, Walmart, Costco or any other retailer (except some bamboo product) is not only made in the USA but made in the Southeast. Key cost of those product and other like items (cereal, any big package of light product) is transportation so plants are local. Same with very heavy product like Water... always made close by since the are expensive to ship and cheap to make. Charmin and other P&G paper products are made in Albany, GA. Northern and Sparkle are made just outside Savannah, GA. Private brand Publix, Walmart, Costco are made in North Carolina. White cloud is made in Memphis, TN. There are also mills in Jacksonville and Miami that covert paper rolls to other product vs. starting from pulp.

When you see the next port strike starting on January 15 (delayed to avoid impacting the election) don't panic. Retailers have a 2-4 weeks inventory in their DC and on the way. Suppliers keep another 4-12 weeks supply on hand on items shipped to them because they have to keep retailers stocked. If you want to panic buy then think about it... buy French wine, Imported Cheese, clothes...not grocery items.... Federal law requires listing country of origin on food and OTC drugs IF a product is imported. If no country is on the label then it is made in the USA and not affected by the port strike at all in most cases. For imported items, this strike was only the East Coast and Gulf ports. Even the eucalyptus used in Charmin won't be affected. They will bring it in through the West Coast ports.

Cuervo 10-04-2024 04:30 AM

Another way
 
During the pandemic I purchased a bidet it was the best investment I ever made.
Wash & dries, male & female, even has an enema setting when things are just not right.
I do use disposable wet ones for my own security, but I'm sure it's not necessary.
Haven't used toilet paper since.

Berwin 10-04-2024 04:59 AM

Whether it is panic buying or supply chain disruption, if the shelves are bare, you are out of luck either way.

daca55 10-04-2024 05:21 AM

The strike is suspended until Jan 15 and there is a chance there will be no strike.

BlueStarAirlines 10-04-2024 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2375833)
Toilet paper sold in the United States is made in the United States. People who hoard toilet paper as a result of the port strike are - less intelligent than the average tree frog.

Exactly! I'm amazed by the number of folks that live here that threw away common sense the moment they retired.

Normal 10-04-2024 05:27 AM

Bogo
 
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2375810)
Or Walmart or Target or Costco or Sam's. Why would anyone buy TP at Publix unless they were in a huge hurry and it was an "emergency"?

Last week it was Buy One Get One?

MikeN 10-04-2024 05:44 AM

STOP. The strike is over. The government should have invoked the Taft Hartley Act but instead they two sides have agreed to return to work

Girlcopper 10-04-2024 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pondboy (Post 2375825)
So you know it’s only items that come from overseas that MIGHT be affected if the strike goes on for a few weeks.

Toilet paper is not imported. So you’re just causing a panic buy.

Everybody can relax. No strike!

jcreason5616 10-04-2024 06:46 AM

There is a $10 off coupon on tp at Publix.

Andyb 10-04-2024 06:46 AM

Strike is over

rsimpson 10-04-2024 08:13 AM

No so fast, Mr. Tree Frog
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2375833)
Toilet paper sold in the United States is made in the United States. People who hoard toilet paper as a result of the port strike are - less intelligent than the average tree frog.

While there are still some toilet paper manufacturers operating in the United States, a significant portion of the toilet paper consumed in the country is imported from other countries, primarily Canada and China.

According to the American Forest & Paper Association (AF&PA), the United States produced approximately 7.2 million tons of tissue paper in 2020, which includes toilet paper, paper towels, and facial tissues. However, the country imported an additional 2.3 million tons of tissue paper during the same year.

GizmoWhiskers 10-04-2024 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375785)

Lol for your house $19 bidet from Amazon will do the clean up if horders want to repeat 2020.


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