Golf Lesson for LOW handicap golfer
 

Not impressed with the teachers at The Villages.

Any recommendations for teaching pro's in the area.

Okay traveling an hour or so.

Thanks
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(any one used Oxford??)

I could give you a few pointers.

If you’re a low handicapper why screw it up by going to a pro who will inevitably try to teach you to swing like he does?

I am a under 20 handicap. I could probably help you a lot. First tip, start at the 19th hole.

Looking for a tweak.
That's why I'm looking for a specific Pro.
Not looking for a generic, broad-brush teacher.

If it ain't broke, why try to fix it. :shrug:

we aren't low handicappers, nor mid handicappers, but we can shoot in the mid-high 80s when the sun is shining properly. . . .

search in the Orlando area. . .

We went with Larry Rinker, ex pga player and current pro teacher, and he specializes in old people swings, a one time present to each of us as he is very expensive, and he made very specific recommendations and also golfed a round with us for a full day the monday after the Father / son PGA tournament for best playing conditions evah! . My play improved tremendously practicing his tweaks, not so much when i don't practice..

good luck,

sportsguy and coachk, two time local tournament winner

My dad was a scratch golfer, yet rarely gave lessons to any of us.
His tip, it’s your game, respect the game, the rules. If one can’t enjoy the few hours of solitude, enjoying the great moments, don’t dwell on the bad shot, then golf is not your game.

Stephen Wresh at Continental Country Club. Best in the area. Excellent with low handicap golfers.

I can give you lessons but my hourly rate is very high ( same rate as Butch Harmon charges ). 😳

Local golf instructor arrested after battle with teenage son over dishwasher.

https://www.**************.com/2018/...on-dishwasher/

Forgot about this guy.......................this is a great option.

I hear Mitch Adcock at Palmer is excellent with low handicappers. He is a former PGA Tour player.

Steve Wresh at Continental, I shoot in the low 80's and he is giving me some changes to get into the 70's
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Mike Bender in Lake Mary...be prepared to be on waiting list.

Snowflakes
 

How low a handicap are you???? Golfers are like snowflakes, each is a little different in some way..............assuming you need to discover your swing not the short game.

Most high handicappers suffer from loft......... lack of f...talent

Low handicappers need a slight mechanic twist to free up their swing.........

It starts with having the right swing philosophy and most pros deal in hitting positions and not co-ordinating your golf swing...........

This is going to be a journey to find the right pro........when you go explain your swing philosophy to them............there in may lie the rub...........

Retired
 

I did know a guy who could take 3-5 shots off low handicappers, 5-10 off mid handicapper, and 10-15 shots off high handicappers in a few lessons.........he dealt in swing philosophy and co-ordinating movement ...........

PGA Teaching Professional
 

Funny this came up today. I just finished building my hitting area. I'm planning on offering a limited number of spots on my schedule. I'm currently a 33 year PGA Pro and will be starting a initially a short game program. This program is going to improve your full swing as I teach mainly Correct Impact Position and how to get to it.
Please message me privately for more info.

Golf Lessons
 

As a retired educator, coach and referee of several sports I belive I am qualified to evaluate coaches/instructors. I have also taken golf lessons from several instructors over the years. Since coming to TV I have taken several lessons from David Sherman at Lopez Legacy. He is outstanding! In chatting with David it became very obvious why he is an excellent instructor. David has worked with/mentored by some of the very best, i.e. David Pelz. Coach Sherman is a two time NCAA Coach of theYear!

It’s been three years but I went to Golftec in Orlando. They sell you a package and are very flexible in scheduling.. I did about 2 years going every 3 weeks. Sometimes on a course in Orlando rest at their location. They provide feedback of your lesson thru their app within a couple hours. Excellent graphics within the video. It has been over two years and I can still review the videos, by each lesson. I only wish they were close, I would still be doing it.

Golf
 

John Hughes, Orlando

What part(s) of your game has the fewest "strokes gained"? You probably want to know that before selecting professional help.

Mitch Adcock
 

Taken lessons from Mitch and I think he is great.
Works with what you have and tweaks it.
No cookie cutter.
Would recommend a sand lesson, his speciality.
Been a 2-5 for 40 yrs and have played competitive golf my whole life.

Tyler McGhie near Orange County National. Works with what you can do physically, not a cookie cutter coach. Has plenty of content on Youtube and does online lessons so you don't have to travel

I recommend Athletic Motion Golf in Winter Garden. It's an indoor practice facility with Trackman bays and the pros there have worked with PGA tour players. I've been a member since July.

The problem with golf is when you fix one problem 5 more pop up? If you can finely drive ball off tee, can’t hit approach shot, now it you finely hit drive, and good approach shot, you can’t putt. What I have found I can drive ball, can hit approach shot close, but I don’t have to be accurate. Now I got to putt, which has to be accurate. So, IMO it all boils down to the putting. 50 cents please…:faint:

Lessons? You don't need no stinking lessons! Just remember to keep your head down.
You're welcome. 😉

I would second the recommendation for Golftec. Particularly if you are just trying to tweek your swing. The video analysis really helps you see the impact of small changes. Feel isn’t real. Often the changes that you make based on feel do the opposite of what you think. Being able to see every swing is so important.

This thread is fascinating. I'm amazed at how many experts we have on TOTV!

I've been in TV for 4 winters. I play 5 times a week. I book the night before, so that means I've played with approximately 1000 different golfers.

I have played with fewer than 20 people who played the Blue Tees.

I have never seen anyone else play the Golds or Blacks.

I have yet to see anyone break 80.

I shot my age from the Blues at TDS, last winter. I figured if I got old enough, I'd eventually accomplish that elusive goal. 1 under par.

I played the Golds At Palmer on Saturday. Seemed about right, but no, I didn't break 80. The tee on the second hole on Riley Grove was only one that had me second guessing my choice. Some intimidating carry on that one.

I follow @LouStagner on twitter. He is a golf stats guy, and coaches the Princeton Men's golf team, and caddies in USGA amateur tournaments.

HIs stats are very telling and fascinating with data points in the tens of thousands from all handicappers.

Scratch players make bogey on one of out every four holes they play.
Scratch players are in the top ~1% of all amateur golfers.
They average ~4.7 bogeys per round.
They average ~ 2.2 birdies per round.
From 110 yards in the fairway, they are getting it up and down about 1 out of 10 times.

hey do NOT have a scoring average of even par.

A scratch player...
Playing a par 72...
With a 71.5 course rating...
And a 131 slope rating...

Will have a scoring average of about 75 over their last 20 rounds.

Scratch golfer stats mega thread by Lou
https://x.com/LouStagner/status/1849825129481544096

Approximate ranges:
That puts a low handicapper between 75-82
A mid handicapper between 82- 89
A high handicapper 90 and above

@BrianL, you are probably a scratch golfer, correct! very impressive given the difficulty of the sport.

However, if you read enough of Lou's posts, you will realize that most 65 y/o and above should not be playing the back two tee boxes based upon their age/expected/average distance off the tees anyway. . one can be scratch at the men's forward tees. . .

That's a tough hole. I find keeping it right on the Tee shot, is a better way to play the hole. Of course, it probably doesn't matter much, because it's nearly impossible to keep your 2nd shot on the Green.

Jus played it this morning.
Course is in great shape.

The poor starter at Riley needs to retire.
He was arguing with me as to my name (with my Villages ID in hand).
Argued I was some guy named "Wallinkoski" & I was at the wrong tee time.

Once past him, very nice morning.

Thanks the posts and PM's.

I have a couple solid options.

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Wow, I feel better about myself without a lesson.

Interesting ............... the "65 and above" comment vs. driving distance (no matter what age).
I believe it's driving distance, not age, determining back two tees.

Lou Stagner is a 1st class jerk. He's an assistant coach at Princeton, who provides them with statistical analysis. Lou's not much of a golfer, I'd play him at scratch any day and I have 30+ years on him. His X account is one of the worst examples of engagement farming I've seen in the golf community.

As soon as someone calls him out on his nonsense, Lou disappears. IMO, his understand of golf stats is no better than a 16 year old boy's understand of sex.

If you want to follow someone from Arccos who knows what he's talking about, follow @hutch_golf. Hutch is not only a stat guy at Arccos, he plays at scratch and just won his club championship.

Being a finance guy, you already know this ... statistics are only as good as the raw input. Arccos' stats aren't representative and rife with errors and Lou comes erroneous conclusions. Lou brags about their "2 billion shot" database, but has no interest in putting his "conclusions" into context, only tossing hand grenades over the transom, to generate "hits". (I have a friend at Arccos, who's about 8 steps above Lou on the food chain, so I have a little extra insight).

Sorry to get wound up, but Lou Stagner is the Kardashian of golf "statisticians".

Age & driving distance are fairly well connected. I don't kow any 65+ year olds, who can hit it farther than they did at 50.

The best distance recommendation I've seen, is multiply your 5 Iron (carry) distance by 36. That puts me right around 6000 yards. I now play the Blue Tees everywhere (TDS is about 6200 from the Blues).

Try Larrie Yosha at Harbor Hills.

Move up one set of Tees, then enjoy the day!

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