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Bay Kid 11-20-2024 07:36 AM

Cancelled Tee Times
 
At this time of year it becomes difficult to secure tee times for 2. What I have noticed during the week is that so many tee times are taken by large groups and often there are several players that don't show up with their group, leaving unused tee times.

Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine!

rsimpson 11-20-2024 07:55 AM

Played 4 holkes and left
 
Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine![/QUOTE]

On a related note, we had four 'players' drive through our foursome last Sunday AM on an executive course in the South. We were on the 6th hole meaning they had played No More Than FOUR holes. As they drove passed they said: "We need to get to Church." I am appalled that these four people would take a Prime Time Sunday AM tee time from real golfers and play only FOUR Holes! Unbelievable!

golfing eagles 11-20-2024 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2387531)
At this time of year it becomes difficult to secure tee times for 2. What I have noticed during the week is that so many tee times are taken by large groups and often there are several players that don't show up with their group, leaving unused tee times.

Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine!

Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

rsimpson 11-20-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2387547)
Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

golfing eagles 11-20-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2387576)
Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

Sure. But I understand they use people on vacation or who usually just play execs for champ tee times and vice versa. I have heard about people getting caught, but I don't think it happens often

tophcfa 11-20-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2387547)
Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

When playing as a single, I have learned the hard way to avoid joining threesomes that are part of a group. It’s not unusual to see a few threesomes stacked up for the first tee times of the afternoon wave, which is the tell tale sign of a group. They hope no one will join them, which holds an open space for group members that might show up unscheduled, and sometimes are not very welcoming to golfers outside their group joining them. When playing as a single, it is very unusual to not enjoy the company of fellow golfers, with that one exception.

MrFlorida 11-20-2024 09:41 AM

No show gets 3 points, a cancellation gets 2 points

BrianL99 11-20-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2387577)
Sure. But I understand they use people on vacation or who usually just play execs for champ tee times and vice versa. I have heard about people getting caught, but I don't think it happens often

That used to go on at our club, until we solved it. You get to do it twice. The 3rd time, you get charged a Guest Fee for the players who didn't show up. $175/person is a steep price to pay, for the convenience of not playing with a "stranger".

tophcfa 11-20-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2387583)
No show gets 3 points, a cancellation gets 2 points

Enhanced membership creates a moral hazard. The members can flaunt the system and indiscriminately accumulate points and their requests will still trump resident members who follow the rules. What’s even worse is that their guests get priority over resident members.

golfing eagles 11-20-2024 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387587)
Enhanced membership creates a moral hazard. The members can flaunt the system and indiscriminately accumulate points and their requests will still trump resident members who follow the rules. What’s even worse is that their guests get priority over resident members.

And the person who pays for a Bentley gets a better car than a Chevy----what's the point????

tophcfa 11-20-2024 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2387590)
And the person who pays for a Bentley gets a better car than a Chevy----what's the point????

The persons driving both the Bentley and the Chevy gets the same penalty for running a stop sign. The points accumulated by an enhanced member (and their guests) are less penal than for the resident member.

golfing eagles 11-20-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387599)
The persons driving both the Bentley and the Chevy gets the same penalty for running a stop sign. The points accumulated by an enhanced member (and their guests) are less penal than for the resident member.

The person running the stop sign pays more than one who stops for it

I'm not advocating that priority members should go ahead and cheat/rig the system. In fact, I doubt they are the problem since points don't really matter to them. But if someone wants a discount on greens fees and a better chance of getting the tee time they want, they have to pay for it. And those that don't want to pay for it have no right to complain. After all, everyone is not equal in this system, like they are in N. Korea :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 11-20-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387605)
Talk about stating the obvious and misdirecting the point! But if getting in the last word floats your boat, go for it.

Somebody has to :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

shut the front door 11-20-2024 03:58 PM

I'll admit to using a non-golfers ID# to create a foursome that turns into a threesome when they don't show up. I do not like to play with strangers because every time that I have, I get paired with that idiot who thinks he's on the tour when he's taking 5 or more warmups before EACH swing.

4$ALE 11-20-2024 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2387686)
I'll admit to using a non-golfers ID# to create a foursome that turns into a threesome when they don't show up. I do not like to play with strangers because every time that I have, I get paired with that idiot who thinks he's on the tour when he's taking 5 or more warmups before EACH swing.

:shocked: Doesn't sound like he's the idiot to me????

BrianL99 11-20-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2387686)
I'll admit to using a non-golfers ID# to create a foursome that turns into a threesome when they don't show up. I do not like to play with strangers because every time that I have, I get paired with that idiot who thinks he's on the tour when he's taking 5 or more warmups before EACH swing.

It's always nice to see a truthful post and see someone admit they're part of the problem.

I hope David Williams is reading this ...
.

JMintzer 11-20-2024 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2387686)
I'll admit to using a non-golfers ID# to create a foursome that turns into a threesome when they don't show up. I do not like to play with strangers because every time that I have, I get paired with that idiot who thinks he's on the tour when he's taking 5 or more warmups before EACH swing.

I've played with regular threesomes multiple time and I've never had an issue...

In fact, I've met some great people and now have some new golfing partners...

One time, I played with 3 relative beginner women. We had a blast! They were hysterical... They could trash talk with the best of them!

Mrmean58 11-21-2024 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2387531)
At this time of year it becomes difficult to secure tee times for 2. What I have noticed during the week is that so many tee times are taken by large groups and often there are several players that don't show up with their group, leaving unused tee times.

Please call the starters shack as early as possible to let them know you will not be able to play. At least this will give other call in players a chance to enjoy a round of golf. Rain or shine!

As much as that is the right thing to do, large groups won't do that in general as they don't want "outsiders" (outside of their group) to join in. A bigger problem is two players adding two guests or spouses into their reservation only to have the guests be "unable to make it". In those cases, the guests are non existent or the spouses simply don't play golf. Lots of games being played so that couples can play a round of Golf by themselves.

Janie123 11-21-2024 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2387576)
Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

No shows are 3 pts but if you play once a week, they probably don’t care. Besides a large group is given a reservation by the average of the total points, If the group of 24 has 23 with 1 point and one with 3, they average 1.0x (it’s too early to do the math)

barbnick 11-21-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2387577)
Sure. But I understand they use people on vacation or who usually just play execs for champ tee times and vice versa. I have heard about people getting caught, but I don't think it happens often

Happens all the time. They will also reserve for Guest and say the guest could not make it. No points charged.

barbnick 11-21-2024 07:36 AM

Happens all the time

Miboater 11-21-2024 07:43 AM

I caught someone using my ID number for tee times when I was up north. I happened to check the website and saw that I had a tee time for an executive course and it wasn't with anyone that I knew. They were using it once or twice a week for a month. I called the golf office and reported it and it never happened again.

golfing eagles 11-21-2024 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by barbnick (Post 2387776)
Happens all the time. They will also reserve for Guest and say the guest could not make it. No points charged.

I believe the residents gets charged the points for a guest that doesn't show.

NoMo50 11-21-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by barbnick (Post 2387776)
Happens all the time. They will also reserve for Guest and say the guest could not make it. No points charged.

Not true. Points are assessed to the resident the guest is attached to on the reservation.

NoMo50 11-21-2024 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2387547)
Actually, it's worse than that. Over the years I've overheard groups talking about how they put in players that they know are not going to play so they won't have to play with "strangers". The tee time office tries to monitor for this, but they would have had to commit an egregious offense to get caught

Most folks who are regular users of the tee time system know of one or more people who make use of "ghost" golfers on their requests. I agree that it may be difficult to catch if done sporadically. Still, the tee time office views this practice as abuse of the system, and offenders can be punished. I know a resident who was regularly using the ID# of a non-golfer as a ghost. After repeated instances, the tee time office busted him. His golfing privileges were suspended for 30 days.

Shadowrider 11-21-2024 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387599)
The persons driving both the Bentley and the Chevy gets the same penalty for running a stop sign. The points accumulated by an enhanced member (and their guests) are less penal than for the resident member.

That depends on how attractive the person is. Membership has always had privileges in this world. It's no different here in TV.

biker1 11-21-2024 08:49 AM

Nope.

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2387783)
Not true. Points are assessed to the resident the guest is attached to on the reservation.


4$ALE 11-21-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2387692)
It's always nice to see a truthful post and see someone admit they're part of the problem.

I hope David Williams is reading this ...
.

:rolleyes: And I hope he read your reply before you changed it! :ohdear:

Bay Kid 11-21-2024 09:13 AM

Maybe someone read this chat and cancelled! I couldn't find a tee time for 2, at a reasonable time, on Friday. Then I checked later in the day and there was an open time midday at Bacall.

Thank you to whoever cancelled. Earlier the better!

BrianL99 11-21-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 4$ALE (Post 2387812)
:rolleyes: And I hope he read your reply before you changed it! :ohdear:

Me too.

MsPCGenius 11-21-2024 10:52 AM

Not a golfer....
 
I have no knowledge of the tee time software. Is it possible (or even practical) for me to check to see if someone is using my ID to secure a tee time? :shocked:

Marathon Man 11-21-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MsPCGenius (Post 2387855)
I have no knowledge of the tee time software. Is it possible (or even practical) for me to check to see if someone is using my ID to secure a tee time? :shocked:

Yes. You will see the reservation that 'you' have.

TomSpasm 11-21-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MsPCGenius (Post 2387855)
I have no knowledge of the tee time software. Is it possible (or even practical) for me to check to see if someone is using my ID to secure a tee time? :shocked:

If you go to "thevillages.net" and log in to golf, you can review your play history, which would tell you whether someone is doing that or not.

Snakster66 11-21-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387581)
When playing as a single, I have learned the hard way to avoid joining threesomes that are part of a group. It’s not unusual to see a few threesomes stacked up for the first tee times of the afternoon wave, which is the tell tale sign of a group. They hope no one will join them, which holds an open space for group members that might show up unscheduled, and sometimes are not very welcoming to golfers outside their group joining them. When playing as a single, it is very unusual to not enjoy the company of fellow golfers, with that one exception.

This kinda makes me want to jump in on one of these groups more. Either I will win them over with my humor and charm, or I will be entertained by their irrational irritation.

SHIBUMI 11-21-2024 02:10 PM

What dont you understand
 
about the word enhanced..............

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2387587)
Enhanced membership creates a moral hazard. The members can flaunt the system and indiscriminately accumulate points and their requests will still trump resident members who follow the rules. What’s even worse is that their guests get priority over resident members.


will1546 11-21-2024 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2387576)
Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

They get 3 points for not showing on the day of play.

yankygrl 11-21-2024 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2387576)
Doesn't the No Show get 2 points for no show?

3 points for no show or cancelling day of reservation, 2 points for cancelling prior.

jjombrello 11-21-2024 05:38 PM

That's against the rules but then rules are for those who abide by them, so it seems. But what an attitude!! I've been here 26 years and I have met some wonderful people who joined our group as a single. Some have become close friends and some have joined our group, as a result. I can count on one hand the number of duds, but even those were tolerable for a couple of hours. If one is not welcoming, they get the ice treatment in return, so try lightening up and accept the player as they are. If it pains you, it's only for a short time.

rpgio 11-22-2024 07:30 AM

Weak Response
 
Weak & not helpful.

Bay Kid 11-22-2024 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jjombrello (Post 2387926)
That's against the rules but then rules are for those who abide by them, so it seems. But what an attitude!! I've been here 26 years and I have met some wonderful people who joined our group as a single. Some have become close friends and some have joined our group, as a result. I can count on one hand the number of duds, but even those were tolerable for a couple of hours. If one is not welcoming, they get the ice treatment in return, so try lightening up and accept the player as they are. If it pains you, it's only for a short time.

When I am a single golfer I find myself in the middle of these groups. 99% of the time it is always a pleasure. Many, many nice people. Great way to meet people.


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