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ROCKETMAN 12-29-2024 09:29 AM

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Nothing to do with white crosses but do the lawn ornaments like sand cranes or different birds okay. In my walks I see many of these or is it no one complains. Next do residents of Middleton pay the outside rate (the highest) for championship golf? Also when they give population figures for the villages, I would think Middleton would count because it’s a place with its own zip code.

tophcfa 12-29-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2397056)
Nothing to do with white crosses but do the lawn ornaments like sand cranes or different birds okay. In my walks I see many of these or is it no one complains. Next do residents of Middleton pay the outside rate (the highest) for championship golf? Also when they give population figures for the villages, I would think Middleton would count because it’s a place with its own zip code.

Question 1 - It varies by district, need to check the deed restrictions for the district in question.

Question 2 - The new winter golf rate sheet indicates Middleton Members pay the enhanced guest rates, which fall in between resident members and resident guests. It’s not clear if they get t time priority over resident members like enhanced guests get?

Question 3 - ????

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-29-2024 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2397056)
Nothing to do with white crosses but do the lawn ornaments like sand cranes or different birds okay. In my walks I see many of these or is it no one complains. Next do residents of Middleton pay the outside rate (the highest) for championship golf? Also when they give population figures for the villages, I would think Middleton would count because it’s a place with its own zip code.

Each area has its own set of deed restrictions. MOST of the Villages deed restrictions state that lawn ornaments of ANY kind are forbidden. However potted plants are allowed. So you could have a pot shaped like a bird, and plant something in it, and that'd be okay. Some people claim that ornaments "under the eaves" of the house (right up against the house itself and not on the lawn or distant flowerbed) are acceptable in some neighborhoods. But you'd have to check each set of community standards to find out what applies in which area.

The Historic section doesn't have that particular restriction, which is why you'll see most homes with some kind of lawn ornaments in the yard or in the flower-beds.

In addition, these deed restrictions are subject to enforcement ONLY when someone complains about a violation. If everyone LIKES the statue under the palm tree on your front lawn, then it's fine to have it there. But as soon as someone complains about it, you have to remove it.

retiredguy123 12-29-2024 09:44 AM

Personally, I have no problem with lawn ornaments, statues, pots, signs, etc. But, please do not hang a wind chime on your property. Unfortunately, there are no deed restrictions against them, but they should be banned everywhere. My opinion.

Garywt 12-29-2024 02:40 PM

I think the birds and other things are great and tend to blend in good. Of course what I think cannot compete with deed restrictions. As for what a lawn is can be a different subject. Lawn is the grass area of a yard so as long as you don’t have anything in the grass you should be fine. On a side note, if you put your cross in a planter it is fine.

Bill14564 12-29-2024 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2397177)
I think the birds and other things are great and tend to blend in good. Of course what I think cannot compete with deed restrictions. As for what a lawn is can be a different subject. Lawn is the grass area of a yard so as long as you don’t have anything in the grass you should be fine. On a side note, if you put your cross in a planter it is fine.

Doubtful, but all complaint driven so YMMV.

Bjeanj 12-29-2024 02:58 PM

Latest census 2024
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...0220#LND110220

Map available, also showing the metropolitan statistical area (MSA)

asianthree 12-29-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2397056)
Nothing to do with white crosses but do the lawn ornaments like sand cranes or different birds okay. In my walks I see many of these or is it no one complains. Next do residents of Middleton pay the outside rate (the highest) for championship golf? Also when they give population figures for the villages, I would think Middleton would count because it’s a place with its own zip code.

Well anyone can be the neighborhood complaint organizer. Not much work, take pic of the offensive ornament, with address in pic, quickly fill out multiple complaints on line. Then watch community standards stop at each home.

It was done in all 4 of our neighborhoods, then one could be from anywhere in TV and file a complaint. 1st house complaint for landscaping that developer put in dismissed. 2nd house, plants too close to lot line, not our plants. Dismissed. Third house, a large white cross in our flower bed.. it was a Hawaiian vine gone dormant…dismissed. Be kind to the CS person they take a lot of crap, and much of their time is wasted on incorrect complaints filed.

Some districts now have rules one must live within the district to file.

retiredguy123 12-29-2024 03:04 PM

I comply with all rules and deed restrictions. Anyone within The Villages can inspect my property, and if they find a violation, I will correct It immediately.

Bogie Shooter 12-29-2024 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2397181)
Well anyone can be the neighborhood complaint organizer. Not much work, take pic of the offensive ornament, with address in pic, quickly fill out multiple complaints on line. Then watch community standards stop at each home. It was done in all 4 of our neighborhoods, then one could be from anywhere in TV and file a complaint.

Some districts now has rules one must live within the district to file.

Definition of a troll turning in possible violations.

Bill14564 12-29-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2397180)
Latest census 2024
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...0220#LND110220

Map available, also showing the metropolitan statistical area (MSA)

I only see 2020 data (the last census) and even then, the area marked as the Villages doesn’t include anything south of 44.

CarlR33 12-29-2024 03:46 PM

If your concern is another community then you would have to look up their restrictions for that district. Not sure I would be concerned about other districts other than yours and I would hope you know your restrictions without asking? Mine says “lawn ornaments are prohibited except for seasonal displays not exceeding 30 days”. Seems clear?

bsloan1960 12-29-2024 08:53 PM

In our previous town a home owner has a TOILET on their front yard with flowers planed in it. This is why people can't be allowed to express themselves with yard art here.
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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2397056)
Nothing to do with white crosses but do the lawn ornaments like sand cranes or different birds okay. In my walks I see many of these or is it no one complains. Next do residents of Middleton pay the outside rate (the highest) for championship golf? Also when they give population figures for the villages, I would think Middleton would count because it’s a place with its own zip code.


Topspinmo 12-30-2024 12:20 AM

All rules should be same over all districts. No means no lawn ornaments. But that’s my opinion.

Topspinmo 12-30-2024 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2397192)
If your concern is another community then you would have to look up their restrictions for that district. Not sure I would be concerned about other districts other than yours and I would hope you know your restrictions without asking? Mine says “lawn ornaments are prohibited except for seasonal displays not exceeding 30 days”. Seems clear?

You would have to hire lawyer to clarify restrictions and easements get close to what good and what’s not. :clap2:

Angelhug52 12-30-2024 07:51 AM

Don't care what they have on the lawn. If we complain we must give our name.At least in the district we live in. Wind chimes should not be allowed. And if high winds are coming I wish they lawn ornaments were put away before they are flying objects. Also USAflags lite at night. And the ropes that hold them secure( the sound of those ropes against the pole make dripping water sound musical.).Park your cars and company cars in front of your house. Walk and poops your dog on your lawn. And if you want a cross fine ,just member if someone puts up their religious symbol it is also fine.. As long as you show some restraint so the neighborhood remains clean who really cares. Try putting energy into helping others and being kind. Afterall how many more trips around the sun do you think we all have? Now rant done. Walking into 2025 after 22 years here with thoughts of live and let live. The value of my home will be OK as long as those crane birds don't take out my windows.Happy Healthy New Year.

Rocksnap 12-30-2024 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2397061)
Each area has its own set of deed restrictions. MOST of the Villages deed restrictions state that lawn ornaments of ANY kind are forbidden. However potted plants are allowed. So you could have a pot shaped like a bird, and plant something in it, and that'd be okay. Some people claim that ornaments "under the eaves" of the house (right up against the house itself and not on the lawn or distant flowerbed) are acceptable in some neighborhoods. But you'd have to check each set of community standards to find out what applies in which area.

The Historic section doesn't have that particular restriction, which is why you'll see most homes with some kind of lawn ornaments in the yard or in the flower-beds.

In addition, these deed restrictions are subject to enforcement ONLY when someone complains about a violation. If everyone LIKES the statue under the palm tree on your front lawn, then it's fine to have it there. But as soon as someone complains about it, you have to remove it.

You mean to tell me we have Karens in TV? Tell me it’s not true!

Switter 12-30-2024 10:09 AM

I never understood lawn ornaments. I honestly think most of them look tacky and cheap.

But I am also a minimalist. To each his own I guess…

ehonour 12-30-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2397246)
In our previous town a home owner has a TOILET on their front yard with flowers planed in it.

Interesting. According to the CDD rules about planters, it seems this would qualify. I think I'll do it!

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-30-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2397291)
You mean to tell me we have Karens in TV? Tell me it’s not true!

You don't have to be a "Karen" to have a valid complaint about a deed violation. If your neighbor dies with no family to care for it, and the landscapers aren't getting paid so they stop mowing the lawn, the yard becomes nothing but dry patches of weeds and ant infestation, mold starts growing on the outer walls of the house, vines start growing in the roof gutters - then calling to complain about it isn't being a Karen. It's being a resident of the community who doesn't want to be living next door to a trash heap.

dougawhite 12-30-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2397180)
Latest census 2024
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...0220#LND110220

Map available, also showing the metropolitan statistical area (MSA)

"The Villages" defined by the census bureau is only north of CR44, and also excludes the historic area.
Google Maps

SoCalGal 12-30-2024 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2397183)
I comply with all rules and deed restrictions. Anyone within The Villages can inspect my property, and if they find a violation, I will correct It immediately.

This is the most productive attitude, in my opinion. People in general make mountains out of mole hills.

Matthew 23:24 (NIV) speaks to a similar concept: "You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel." This verse criticizes the Pharisees for their attention to minor details while ignoring larger, more significant matters.

DAVES 12-30-2024 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2397056)
Nothing to do with white crosses but do the lawn ornaments like sand cranes or different birds okay. In my walks I see many of these or is it no one complains. Next do residents of Middleton pay the outside rate (the highest) for championship golf? Also when they give population figures for the villages, I would think Middleton would count because it’s a place with its own zip code.

I have to wonder why ask. All will be very unhappy with neighbors turning each other in. Violations? Be sure you are perfect.

vintageogauge 12-31-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2397061)
Each area has its own set of deed restrictions. MOST of the Villages deed restrictions state that lawn ornaments of ANY kind are forbidden. However potted plants are allowed. So you could have a pot shaped like a bird, and plant something in it, and that'd be okay. Some people claim that ornaments "under the eaves" of the house (right up against the house itself and not on the lawn or distant flowerbed) are acceptable in some neighborhoods. But you'd have to check each set of community standards to find out what applies in which area.

The Historic section doesn't have that particular restriction, which is why you'll see most homes with some kind of lawn ornaments in the yard or in the flower-beds.

In addition, these deed restrictions are subject to enforcement ONLY when someone complains about a violation. If everyone LIKES the statue under the palm tree on your front lawn, then it's fine to have it there. But as soon as someone complains about it, you have to remove it.

It's never "fine" to have it there just because no one complained about it. If it's a deed restriction it's not allowed period.


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