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Topspinmo 01-06-2025 10:12 PM

Weight/BMI challenge
 
Let’s have weight vs height challenge; I’m 5 foot 11 and 3/4” nearly 73 and weigh 186 to 188 depending on which day I check. My BMI 25.9 says I’m over weight.

Hear one site to measure if interested? You don’t have to post your readings. But if interested if considered healthy or not by weight and height.

Adult BMI Categories | BMI | CDC

Scroll down click on adult BMI calculator

Here adult weight charts

Ideal Weight Chart | Staying Well

Accord to this chart I just in standard for good health? If I use European standards I’m 25 pounds over weight. Seems like everyone has opinion when comes to weight ve height vs health?

tophcfa 01-06-2025 11:49 PM

BMI is BS. I am 6’1” 195 and my BMI says I am overweight. Work out daily and feel weak and too skinny if I get to 190, which still puts me borderline overweight based on the bogus BMI statistics. Muscle weighs more than fat and people who work out get penalized by the BMI.

Two Bills 01-07-2025 04:50 AM

I have been the same weight, give or take a pound or two, up or down, for years, and used to be within healthy BMI numbers.
I am 85, and have shrunk 2.5 inches, so now I am classed as overweight.
Can't/won't lose the pounds needed to get inside number, or I will look skeletal.
I put it down to muscle mass!!:icon_wink:

jimhoward 01-07-2025 08:50 AM

BMI is too simple a formula to be an accurate measure of body fat for everyone. But I think it’s a pretty good guideline for most people.

I am 6’ 2” and my bmi is 26. People say I am thin, but I can see I’ve have a gut. I wouldn’t mind dropping 15 lbs. if I were a body builder it would be a different story.

I think if your BMI is over 25 but you are muscular and have no belly you are fine. You can also just measure body fat by more accurate means if it’s worry.

On the other hand if your BMI is 30, you are obese regardless of body shape. But then you don’t need BMI to tell you that.

So then what’s the point of BMI? Not sure. It’s not accurate at the margins and it’s not needed at the extremes.

JohnN 01-07-2025 10:34 AM

BMI for the elderly, try this instead.

BMI in the Elderly: What You Need to Know - The Geriatric Dietitian

Topspinmo 01-07-2025 10:34 AM

I agree with assessment of BMI not fit all situations. IMO in my case I could lose 10 to 15 pounds to be what I consider my tip top weight range around 175. But, my age and joint conditions won’t allow me to get there unless I starve myself, which IMO without cardio might make me more susceptible to illness? We all have different opinions and goals when come to our fitness level. When I was younger I got all work out I needed at work I didn’t need to lift weights, watch my diet, along with my sport kept me in idea weight and cardio. Of course now Not nearly active so weight gain creeps up.

Topspinmo 01-07-2025 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2399366)
BMI is BS. I am 6’1” 195 and my BMI says I am overweight. Work out daily and feel weak and too skinny if I get to 190, which still puts me borderline overweight based on the bogus BMI statistics. Muscle weighs more than fat and people who work out get penalized by the BMI.

Muscle weighs more than fat? Yes and no?

pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat, but muscle is denser and takes up less space:
Density
Muscle is about 20% denser than fat, so a pound of muscle takes up about 20% less space than a pound of fat.
Appearance
Muscle appears leaner and more toned than fat. For example, an extra 20 pounds of fat may make you look softer, while an extra 20 pounds of muscle will make you look firm and sculpted.
Health
Muscle is metabolically active, meaning it takes energy to maintain itself. Building muscle can improve your overall health and physical abilities, and it can also help improve bone density.
Body composition
It's important to understand your body composition, instead of just your weight. If you're gaining muscle mass, that's actually a good thing.
You can use a body composition bathroom scale or skinfold measurement to track your body fat percentage. You can also check your physique rating, which assesses your muscle and body fat levels and rates the result as one of nine body types.


We can all agree rather have more muscle than fat. Muscles are more healthy.

ThirdOfFive 01-07-2025 11:52 AM

I'm 5' 9" tall and weigh 180.

My chart says I'm about 3" too short for my weight.

Working on it.

Stu from NYC 01-07-2025 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2399470)
I'm 5' 9" tall and weigh 180.

My chart says I'm about 3" too short for my weight.

Working on it.

Want to borrow our rack? Guaranteed to add 3 inches at at a very reasonable cost per inch

LeRoySmith 01-07-2025 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2399361)
Let’s have weight vs height challenge; I’m 5 foot 11 and 3/4” nearly 73 and weigh 186 to 188 depending on which day I check. My BMI 25.9 says I’m over weight.

Hear one site to measure if interested? You don’t have to post your readings. But if interested if considered healthy or not by weight and height.

Adult BMI Categories | BMI | CDC

Scroll down click on adult BMI calculator

Here adult weight charts

Ideal Weight Chart | Staying Well

Accord to this chart I just in standard for good health? If I use European standards I’m 25 pounds over weight. Seems like everyone has opinion when comes to weight ve height vs health?

According to that chart I'm the perfect weight, unfortunately according to the chart I'm 17 inches too short.

barbara828 01-07-2025 09:52 PM

Bmi
 
86, 5'6 [ down from 5'7 1/2] , 130 , BMI 21 = healthy female
Don't remember mine ever being out of wack. Probably 12 yrs. since last.

Susan1717 01-08-2025 05:03 AM

I’m the exact same weight I was in college days. I lost about 1/2” in height and do feel I’d like to lose a few pounds to compensate as long as I keep my muscle mass. 5’6” and 118 lbs. For my frame it’s best. Once I gained 8-9 pounds and my bloodwork at my physical showed poorer results so I immediately stopped certain foods. I think there’s a “right” weight for everyone and it’s different for every frame.

La lamy 01-08-2025 05:20 AM

5' 5" 120 lbs It says healthy weight.

Mikeg1955 01-08-2025 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2399500)
According to that chart I'm the perfect weight, unfortunately according to the chart I'm 17 inches too short.

The only accurate way to measure BMI is with a machine.

While the BMI calculation with height and weight is not the most accurate, generally if that shows a high BMI you will also have a high fat percentage with a machine.

As a Certified Personal Trainer and someone who has lost over 100lbs and kept it off the only way to improve your BMI is to change your life style by portion control and a resistance fitness program.

If you are interested in improving you health I can customize a program to get you those results.

Contact me if interested

Michael

Surf Daddy 01-08-2025 07:48 AM

Bogus Metric
 
I am 73, 6', 34" waist and weigh 210. It is all the same as when I played football 50 years ago. I work out 5x per week with weights and do cardio almost daily. My strength is 1/2 half of what it was then, but I am still muscular. I had a physical done recently, and some moron added to my record that I am obese by their algorithm. One size does not fit all.

NoMo50 01-08-2025 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2399366)
BMI is BS. I am 6’1” 195 and my BMI says I am overweight. Work out daily and feel weak and too skinny if I get to 190, which still puts me borderline overweight based on the bogus BMI statistics. Muscle weighs more than fat and people who work out get penalized by the BMI.

Correct...and therein lies the fallacy of trying to apply a simple mathematical formula to the masses. Based on the BMI formulae, an NFL linebacker would be categorized as morbidly obese, when he probably has body fat of less than 4%. Now, I don't have a linebacker's body, but I have shed weight in the past and gotten to the point where the BMI scales would list me as "healthy." At this lower weight I felt anemic and weak, and looked skeletal. My doctor even suggested putting 15 pounds back on.

Bottom line...everyone is different. A logical approach would include a conversation with your doctor, who will recommend an ideal body weight for you, based on your circumstances.

nn0wheremann 01-08-2025 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2399361)
Let’s have weight vs height challenge; I’m 5 foot 11 and 3/4” nearly 73 and weigh 186 to 188 depending on which day I check. My BMI 25.9 says I’m over weight.

Hear one site to measure if interested? You don’t have to post your readings. But if interested if considered healthy or not by weight and height.

Adult BMI Categories | BMI | CDC

Scroll down click on adult BMI calculator

Here adult weight charts

Ideal Weight Chart | Staying Well

Accord to this chart I just in standard for good health? If I use European standards I’m 25 pounds over weight. Seems like everyone has opinion when comes to weight ve height vs health?

5’ 10” 204 so I am overweight. Would be more comfortable at 190 to 195, which is still overweight by the CDC standards. However, those standards apply to anyone over age 20. When I was that age I weighed 165. I would be emaciated at that age now. Old folks need to carry some extra weight because if we do become ill, or injured, we likely will loose more weight during a lengthy recovery.

Lisanp@aol.com 01-08-2025 08:55 AM

New research suggests that waist-to-hip ratio is a more accurate indicator of wellness than BMI. BMI is fraught with problems, one of them is that you can have a weight lifter with 8% body fat with a BMI of 35 and you can have someone who has 35% body fat with the same BMI. Waist-to-hip ratio does do a better job of capturing visceral fat, the fat that is most harmful in terms of mortality.

ThirdOfFive 01-08-2025 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisanp@aol.com (Post 2399646)
New research suggests that waist-to-hip ratio is a more accurate indicator of wellness than BMI. BMI is fraught with problems, one of them is that you can have a weight lifter with 8% body fat with a BMI of 35 and you can have someone who has 35% body fat with the same BMI. Waist-to-hip ratio does do a better job of capturing visceral fat, the fat that is most harmful in terms of mortality.

Actually the best indicator is how well my clothes fit.

Chefjeff 01-08-2025 08:58 AM

you are not overweight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2399366)
BMI is BS. I am 6’1” 195 and my BMI says I am overweight. Work out daily and feel weak and too skinny if I get to 190, which still puts me borderline overweight based on the bogus BMI statistics. Muscle weighs more than fat and people who work out get penalized by the BMI.

according to the BMI chart that was posted above your post, you are in the ideal weight range for your height. Good job! I'm trying to get there myself.

Chefjeff 01-08-2025 09:00 AM

Exactly! I can't afford a new wardrobe so I have to lose some more!

Villagesgal 01-08-2025 09:11 AM

Bone weight and structure also plays into BMI. A small framed 5ft 8 woman won't weigh as much as a large framed 5ft 8inch woman. My mother was 5ft 8 inches, had size 11 feet, wore a man's size large glove, and had a large frame with dense heavy bones. She was skin and bones, you could see her bones including ribs, hip bones, all of them, yet at 187 pounds was considered at the top end of overweight by her doctor. That's crazy. BMI doesn't take bone structure or muscles into consideration. It was made for insurance companies, not doctors. If you look good who care what your BMI is. It literally means nothing.

Kevin17 01-08-2025 11:15 AM

Body Comp Analysis: TV Health Care Centers
 
TV Health center offers monthly analysis that, in addition, to BMI, also gives body fat mass & percentage as well as hydration level percentage. This analysis takes ~5 minutes, no appointment needed. Head to TV HC website and search for 'Body Composition' to see when & where; its offered at select centers, usually for one hour.

Herscheleen 01-08-2025 01:14 PM

Bmi
 
:BigApplause:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Surf Daddy (Post 2399617)
I am 73, 6', 34" waist and weigh 210. It is all the same as when I played football 50 years ago. I work out 5x per week with weights and do cardio almost daily. My strength is 1/2 half of what it was then, but I am still muscular. I had a physical done recently, and some moron added to my record that I am obese by their algorithm. One size does not fit all.


Velvet 01-08-2025 02:48 PM

When I was younger I felt happy at 125 lb.Then 20 years later at 135, then another 20 years later, at 145. When I lose weight (which is not hard on very low carb diets, like the body builders) I can get to any BMI that I chose but I feel weaker and unhappier. So I let my body choose its ideal weight. It can’t go too high because higher weight and body fat tends to make my thighs rub together and being fat etc makes me irritable.

Oh, and, I tend to ignore BMI tables.

HORNET 01-08-2025 04:38 PM

Why?

Topspinmo 01-08-2025 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2399807)
Why?


To see —-if —you ———have weight problem based on government general standards which leads to other health problems. But, if don’t care don’t ask question…

Topspinmo 01-08-2025 08:31 PM

The myth of big bones

Quote
“ Yes, the myth that big bones make someone weigh more is a common misconception:
Bones don't contribute much to total body weight
Bones are not a major factor in a person's total body weight. Larger bones may add a few pounds, but not enough to make a difference between a healthy BMI and being overweight.
Obesity is not caused by big bones
A full-body X-ray of an obese person shows that their large size is due to soft tissue and fat, not their bones.
Bones can adapt to weight changes
The skeleton can adapt to changes in weight, but there are limits. Extreme deviations from a normal weight can impair the skeleton's ability to optimize bone strength. “

O my! :shrug:

Topspinmo 01-08-2025 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2399624)
Correct...and therein lies the fallacy of trying to apply a simple mathematical formula to the masses. Based on the BMI formulae, an NFL linebacker would be categorized as morbidly obese, when he probably has body fat of less than 4%. Now, I don't have a linebacker's body, but I have shed weight in the past and gotten to the point where the BMI scales would list me as "healthy." At this lower weight I felt anemic and weak, and looked skeletal. My doctor even suggested putting 15 pounds back on.

Bottom line...everyone is different. A logical approach would include a conversation with your doctor, who will recommend an ideal body weight for you, based on your circumstances.

IMO all football linesmen are over weight so they can throw their weight around. :bowdown:

Mikeg1955 04-29-2025 04:54 PM

BMI is not accurate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2399361)
Let’s have weight vs height challenge; I’m 5 foot 11 and 3/4” nearly 73 and weigh 186 to 188 depending on which day I check. My BMI 25.9 says I’m over weight.

Hear one site to measure if interested? You don’t have to post your readings. But if interested if considered healthy or not by weight and height.

Adult BMI Categories | BMI | CDC

Scroll down click on adult BMI calculator

Here adult weight charts

Ideal Weight Chart | Staying Well

Accord to this chart I just in standard for good health? If I use European standards I’m 25 pounds over weight. Seems like everyone has opinion when comes to weight ve height vs health?

Ignores to get a correct fat % you need a machine that is calibrated to give you fat and muscle in lbs
I am Certifies Personal Trainer
I use one of these machines to give my clients accurate information.
My weight/ fitness programs burn fat and build muscle.
If you lose weight and more then 20% is muscle donot lose the weight. Muscle is more important. If you need more info I am happy to provide

Topspinmo 04-30-2025 12:56 AM

Well, due to condition I lost weight, now I weigh 175 and dropping with BMI 24.4. I’m 6 pounds from my ultimate weight. But, I am weak and don’t fell like doing anything. If I had choice I’ll take my 188 and felling good back. The ultimate with my condition would just feeling good.

As far as weight to hip formula why not post reference so all can see? IMO bottom line if you feel good and strong little overweight not much of problem, sure be nice to lose few pounds but not at expense of good feeling. I’ve got favorite pair of jeans I haven’t been comfortable in for 25 or so years, today they fit perfectly.

Topspinmo 05-07-2025 08:37 PM

Today I think I’ve hit bottom? Weighed in at 174.5 for BMI score 24.3. I’M 5 pounds from my ultimate goal 170. I think I’m bottoming out any more lost IMO will be twice as hard how I got here? I’ve lost about 16 pounds in 5 weeks.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-07-2025 09:06 PM

BMI is one -tool- in the toolbox of measuring body weight. A scale is another tool. A calipers is another tool. I know I'm overweight. Unfortunately at our age, most of us who are overweight are also pretty stretched out. If we lose weight, our skin won't snap back. It'll just - flop around a bit more than it did before we filled it up with all that fat.

According to BMI charts and "weight charts" I should weigh around 120. I once was this tall and weighed 125, and felt horrible. I hated being slender. I would love to get back to 145 though. It's doable, but I enjoy food way too much to give up on things I like to eat, all of which are fat-magnets (starches and sugars - BREAD, ice cream).

Altavia 05-08-2025 06:30 AM

At our age, it doesn't hurt to have a little extra cushion in case you suffer a serious illness.

Personal experience observing patients in an infusion center undergoing chemotherapy, those who were overweight tended to have better outcomes compared to those who started at a healthy weight.

Topspinmo 05-12-2025 10:35 AM

Ok small gain in loss this week at 5’ 11 1/2” ( I’ve lost 1/2 inch in height over years?) my BMI calculated at 24.1 at 173 pounds. 4 more to go.

Topspinmo 05-12-2025 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2430242)
BMI is one -tool- in the toolbox of measuring body weight. A scale is another tool. A calipers is another tool. I know I'm overweight. Unfortunately at our age, most of us who are overweight are also pretty stretched out. If we lose weight, our skin won't snap back. It'll just - flop around a bit more than it did before we filled it up with all that fat.

According to BMI charts and "weight charts" I should weigh around 120. I once was this tall and weighed 125, and felt horrible. I hated being slender. I would love to get back to 145 though. It's doable, but I enjoy food way too much to give up on things I like to eat, all of which are fat-magnets (starches and sugars - BREAD, ice cream).

Agree, I feel weak after weight lost, probably due to loss of some muscle mass? It’s really hard to resist things I like and I figure it bounce around (most likely go up some) really hard to stick to diet. My first week I ate nothing but scrambled eggs and oatmeal and drank only water and little 2% milk with oatmeal, hardly no sugar, Blaaa. O, I had little jello between meals if I had cravings.


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