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BrianL99 01-25-2025 10:34 AM

Championship Courses, Tee Time Scammers
 
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Bogie Shooter 01-25-2025 11:04 AM

Why not ask the guy you suspect, if he accidentally used your info.
The tee time folks can help if you don't like his answer.........

asianthree 01-25-2025 11:22 AM

Under your name and number you can cancel reservation. Since you have given your name and number to this person, then not much you can do except publicly shame. He is using you as a place holder for someone, so do what makes you happy if it interferes with your plans.

You willingly gave your number to make tee times with a group. Mistake or not.. It’s common practice to hold a spot, but usually in our case was asked first.

BrianL99 01-25-2025 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2404355)
Why not ask the guy you suspect, if he accidentally used your info.
The tee time folks can help if you don't like his answer.........

There's no "suspect", the information is clear.

It's pretty hard to do that, "accidently", considering you get a confirmation on the screen, then an email.

jbsnarkin 01-25-2025 11:38 AM

Someone in the reservation used your number. Just cancel. Call the course and let them know why. Hopefully they won’t give you points

BrianL99 01-25-2025 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jbsnarkin (Post 2404369)
Someone in the reservation used your number. Just cancel. Call the course and let them know why. Hopefully they won’t give you points

Doing that, simply allows such abuse to continue.

It's not acceptable for someone to affirmatively try to abuse and cheat the system and use my name to do it.

John Mayes 01-25-2025 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404348)
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Just call or talk in person to the guy that did it. Tell him to not do it in the future. If he does, then call the tee time office.

My opinion, address the situation yourself instead of expecting someone to handle it for you.

BrianL99 01-25-2025 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2404408)
Just call or talk in person to the guy that did it. Tell him to not do it in the future. If he does, then call the tee time office.

My opinion, address the situation yourself instead of expecting someone to handle it for you.

Oh I see? I just call the guy & ask him to call the Tee Time Office & tell them he tried to scam a Tee Time & oh by the way, make sure you don't assess points against the guy I tried to scam. That should work well.

biker1 01-25-2025 02:17 PM

There is a possibility that he inadvertently clicked on your name from the pull down menu of players when making a reservation on the Villages website. I have done this in the past when I was distracted. If it happened for a request (instead of a reservation) then my first thought is he was using you as a ghost golfer if you didn't have any points. For a reservation, however, there is a good possibility of just a mistake in the pull down menu as he could have just put in a guest. Just take yourself out. If the points for cancelling are an issue, call the tee time office.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404348)
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).


John Mayes 01-25-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404413)
Oh I see? I just call the guy & ask him to call the Tee Time Office & tell them he tried to scam a Tee Time & oh by the way, make sure you don't assess points against the guy I tried to scam. That should work well.

Is your intention to stop the guy from using your info to ghost or is your intention that the guy gets punished for using it in the past?

Your original post made it sound like that you didn’t want him to use you in the future as a place holder.

Topspinmo 01-25-2025 02:20 PM

I haven’t play championship course 12 years or more, don’t know the procedure of reservations. Heck some one could be using my name? Or does it make difference in points on championships courses cause I sure it there openings they will fill it regardless of points system? Then other question is, how did he get your information? When group plays does the person making the reservation had to have all pertinent information of other players on championship courses (players out of bubble wouldn’t have ID numbers) If not that person gotten you identification numbers somehow? Obvious question to me? you gave it to him how you know who doing it, so the system could be cheated for golfers that play 2 or more rounds day or want prime time slots at certain course?

Bogie Shooter 01-25-2025 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404368)
There's no "suspect", the information is clear.

It's pretty hard to do that, "accidently", considering you get a confirmation on the screen, then an email.

So which suggestion are you going to pick?

asianthree 01-25-2025 04:30 PM

.Either way one looks at it the person in question Did not Scam the number. The number was given willingly. Except the consequences that this may or may not happen again. Cancel the reservation, choose to contact the person or not. Either way lesson learned. It’s not the first time a reservation has been made with someone else’s ID, it won’t be the last. Or in case of scheduling 40 people you weren’t the special guy, just an error on users part. Most would just email the person LTK a mistake was made.

Pugchief 01-25-2025 04:51 PM

I don't play that much, but don't you need a PIN in addition to your member# to do the booking? Why would someone else have your PIN?

BrianL99 01-25-2025 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2404459)
I don't play that much, but don't you need a PIN in addition to your member# to do the booking? Why would someone else have your PIN?

No, you don't. I don't quite get that part of the system. It doesn't make sense that you add anyone you want, as long as you have their #.

asianthree 01-25-2025 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404472)
No, you don't. I don't quite get that part of the system. It doesn't make sense that you add anyone you want, as long as you have their #.

How else would the system work for groups of 4 to 40 making tee times. Ask each individual to make their own and hope for the best?

BrianL99 01-25-2025 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mayes (Post 2404416)
Is your intention to stop the guy from using your info to ghost or is your intention that the guy gets punished for using it in the past?

Your original post made it sound like that you didn’t want him to use you in the future as a place holder.

I don't want anyone using my number and I think there should be zero tolerance for manipulating the Tee Time system.

I just stepped through the process, to see if it could be done by accident. I can see that in *some* circumstances, when booking a large group ... it could be possible. In this instance, I can't see how it could be a mistake.

walterray1 01-25-2025 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404476)
I don't want anyone using my number and I think there should be zero tolerance for manipulating the Tee Time system.

I just stepped through the process, to see if it could be done by accident. I can see that in *some* circumstances, when booking a large group ... it could be possible. In this instance, I can't see how it could be a mistake.

I still don't see the point of your original post. It seems like there have been a number of possible solutions to your issue. However, your responses seemed focused on the system. What are you looking for?

BrianL99 01-25-2025 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 2404511)
I still don't see the point of your original post. It seems like there have been a number of possible solutions to your issue. However, your responses seemed focused on the system. What are you looking for?

I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and was curious what they did about it and how it all worked out.

The Tee Time office apparently isn't available on weekends, so I can't simply ask them and the various FAQ's from the Villages Golf, don't have any mention of it, that I can find.

In other words, I was hoping i could tap into the collective wisdom of the folks on TOTV, but no one seems to have had a similar experience or if they did, they're not interested in talking about it.

biker1 01-25-2025 09:22 PM

Well, no. Any person who you have entered in the past is remembered by the system. You can then select anyone from the pulldown menu either intentionally or by mistake.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404476)
I don't want anyone using my number and I think there should be zero tolerance for manipulating the Tee Time system.

I just stepped through the process, to see if it could be done by accident. I can see that in *some* circumstances, when booking a large group ... it could be possible. In this instance, I can't see how it could be a mistake.


biker1 01-25-2025 09:26 PM

Remove yourself from the reservation. If you don't want the cancellation point then call the tee time office on Monday and see if they will remove them. Otherwise, just wait 7 days for the points to roll off. If it happens again, then perhaps you should call the tee time office and discuss further.


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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404512)
I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and was curious what they did about it and how it all worked out.

The Tee Time office apparently isn't available on weekends, so I can't simply ask them and the various FAQ's from the Villages Golf, don't have any mention of it, that I can find.

In other words, I was hoping i could tap into the collective wisdom of the folks on TOTV, but no one seems to have had a similar experience or if they did, they're not interested in talking about it.


BrianL99 01-25-2025 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2404517)
Well, no. Any person who you have entered in the past is remembered by the system. You can then select anyone from the pulldown menu either intentionally or by mistake.

A lot of times when I want to play golf with Scottie Scheffler, I scroll down my friends list and mistakenly click on Phil Mickelson.. It's hard to tell the names apart.

But it is The Villages.

biker1 01-26-2025 01:05 AM

There is no reason why anyone would intentionally put you in a reservation. There is no advantage to doing it. They might put you intentionally in a request, if you have zero points. Apparently this is yet another first world problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404525)
A lot of times when I want to play golf with Scottie Scheffler, I scroll down my friends list and mistakenly click on Phil Mickelson.. It's hard to tell the names apart.

But it is The Villages.


BrianL99 01-26-2025 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2404528)
There is no reason why anyone would intentionally put you in a reservation. There is no advantage to doing it. They might put you intentionally in a request, if you have zero points. Apparently this is yet another first world problem.

That is incorrect.

People do it for a number of reasons. Husband and wives (boyfriends/girlfriends) do it hundreds of times a day, so they get to play alone, without being forced to "pair up".

People do it to "block a spot", when they're not sure which or how many of their friends are available to play on a specific day.

People do it, so they can improve their chances of getting a preferred Tee Time, and their friends aren't Enhanced Members, as I am.

The reasons to abuse the Tee Time system, are as varied as the number of golf courses we have.

I get that folks that aren't really golfers or have much familiarity with the system might not understand how and why the abuse occurs, but it does and it's not fair to other folks who use the system, honestly.

RouseysMom 01-26-2025 06:27 AM

Why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.

TeresaA 01-26-2025 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rouseysmom (Post 2404536)
why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.


best answer!

biker1 01-26-2025 07:25 AM

Nope. They can put in a guest to accomplish any of those for a reservation except for your suggestions that actually referred to a request (highlighted below), not a reservation - they are different animals. Was your ID used for a reservation or a request? Do you understand the difference? If it was a request then there is a greater probability that it was not a mistake and you were being used as a ghost golfer - a not all that uncommon occurrence. Regardless, just remove yourself and call the tee time office if it happens again.

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404531)
That is incorrect.

People do it for a number of reasons. Husband and wives (boyfriends/girlfriends) do it hundreds of times a day, so they get to play alone, without being forced to "pair up".

People do it to "block a spot", when they're not sure which or how many of their friends are available to play on a specific day.

People do it, so they can improve their chances of getting a preferred Tee Time, and their friends aren't Enhanced Members, as I am.

The reasons to abuse the Tee Time system, are as varied as the number of golf courses we have.

I get that folks that aren't really golfers or have much familiarity with the system might not understand how and why the abuse occurs, but it does and it's not fair to other folks who use the system, honestly.


Ski Bum 01-26-2025 07:30 AM

I'm thinking that it is pretty easy to pick the wrong name from the drop down list when making the reservation. Yeah, just call the guy with the presumption of an honest mistake and ask him to remove you. Say hello and ask how's he's been at the same time.

Janie123 01-26-2025 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404348)
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

It is very easy to use someone else’s number. I have a dozen names in my drop down list that I have no idea who they are. I believe it is a group I played with at one time and I might have modified the request thus adding them my pick list. I clean it out every so often. Could have been an accident or as you said, they needed someone with zero points to make a tee time in this season of snowbirds.

It is most likely someone in the reservation, just tell them to please not do it again or you will report them. They will get a slap on the wrist as a first time offender. Me, I would just delete my name from the reservation.

moerman 01-26-2025 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404348)
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Sometimes if a person scrolls too quickly you can accidentally click on the wrong name and ID # and not even realize it. It has happened to me a couple times — once I noticed it & corrected the name, the other time I never noticed and submitted the request.

LonnyP 01-26-2025 08:05 AM

Why not just call them and tell them to please not use your golf number?

jarodrig 01-26-2025 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404512)
I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and was curious what they did about it and how it all worked out.

The Tee Time office apparently isn't available on weekends, so I can't simply ask them and the various FAQ's from the Villages Golf, don't have any mention of it, that I can find.

In other words, I was hoping i could tap into the collective wisdom of the folks on TOTV, but no one seems to have had a similar experience or if they did, they're not interested in talking about it.

The tee times office IS available on weekends, both Saturday and Sunday.

I would suggest you report the infraction to them . They will take care of calling the person who made the request/reservation and give them a stern warning against future infractions.

If it happens again , the person doing it will most likely get a 3-6 month suspension of golfing privileges.

End of story …..

Ptmcbriz 01-26-2025 08:10 AM

Be polite and call the guy and say, “I was making a reservation for myself and the system wouldn’t let me because I already had a reservation. I see you used my names as a place holder. Please don’t do that again. “. Then you cancel that reservation yourself to make sure it’s done (if it’s still upcoming). If you decide to report his activity, he can be suspended for 6 months for using place holders (or some call them ghosts). They are cracking down on people that do this.

Rzepecki 01-26-2025 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LonnyP (Post 2404579)
Why not just call them and tell them to please not use your golf number?

This is the most sensible solution.

jarodrig 01-26-2025 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 1golfergal (Post 2404582)
That's a little harsh Buddy.... it could be a legit mistake.... cool your jets there.

Not at all ! If it’s a “legitimate mistake “ it will be discovered by the tee times office .

And I’m sure that after receiving a call from the tee times office , that “legitimate mistake “ will not happen again ;)

Marathon Man 01-26-2025 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1golfergal (Post 2404581)
Dude- Just CALL THE GUY and let him know that you noticed a tee time for yourself... see what he says.... It may be a totally legit mistake... if so... he will say that. Now, on the other hand, if he says he "ghost" booked you then you handle that with him as you see fit.

Why are you on here asking people...???.... I am assuming you are an adult?

SMH!!!

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Originally Posted by 1golfergal (Post 2404582)
That's a little harsh Buddy.... it could be a legit mistake.... cool your jets there.

Well said

thelegges 01-26-2025 08:38 AM

Let’s be realistic OP has Sheffler and Mickelson on his Friends drop down List…

whoever OP originally gave permission to use his ID number (or the guy stole his wallet) is no longer playing in OP caliber, and No longer wants to be associated with the group. May be the reason OP is so upset

Captain Ruth 01-26-2025 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RouseysMom (Post 2404536)
Why not show up to play? Arrive at your scheduled tee time with your id? That should put an end to it.

Best answer indeed!

SHIBUMI 01-26-2025 09:03 AM

Confused-Ghostbuster
 
So, someone else makes a time in your name, not hard to do. What happens when they go to play and cannot present your ID Card???? If they still get to play then there in lies the rub. The policy at registration would seem to be a much bigger issue.


As it would
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404348)
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).


Bay Kid 01-26-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2404348)
So as far as I know, this is the first time this has happened to me (but I'm going to look closer at my play history, just to find out).

Someone just used my name & number to make a Tee Time Reservation. I know who the person is and I haven't played golf with him, in years.

A) What do I do about it ... who do I call?

B) How do I make sure it doesn't happen again (there are only 2 or 3 people that have my number).

Hopefully it was a mistake. I have 3 of my friends name and numbers by my reservation names. Could be they hit your name by mistake.


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