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Lottoguy 03-05-2025 08:08 PM

Lithium batteries will go up now!
 
Canada is a major supplier of lithium for golf cart batteries. Maybe choosing a gas cart is a better option now?

ohioshooter 03-05-2025 08:29 PM

Hmm, just consider the source. It’s just beginning.

CarlR33 03-05-2025 09:12 PM

I am going to buy a warehouse full of them before the price increase. You may want to do the same with the gas ones?

tophcfa 03-05-2025 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2413890)
Maybe choosing a gas cart is a better option now?

Always been a better option!

Caymus 03-06-2025 03:01 AM

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Will it matter? Batteries for cars will probably not increase as previous predictions.

Snakster66 03-06-2025 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2413890)
Canada is a major supplier of lithium for golf cart batteries. Maybe choosing a gas cart is a better option now?

Source? Canada isn't in the top 5 of lithium producing countries. According to Dept of Energy, bewteen 2016 and 2019, the US got over 90% of it's lithium for production from Argentina and Chile.
FOTW #1225, February 14, 2022: From 2016-2019, over 90% of U.S. Lithium Imports Came from Argentina and Chile | Department of Energy.

As of 2023, 94% of lithium still came from those two countries. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2024/mcs2024-lithium.pdf (I imagine Canada MAY be part of the 'other' at 1%.)

Comments above are not intended to be a defense of battery golf cars, or a discussion of golf cars in general for that matter (I have gas golf car). I just want to point out that the OP is based on a false premise. I will retract if documentation can be provided that indicates the less than 1% of Canadian lithium is used specifically for golf car batteries.

rustyp 03-06-2025 09:29 AM

China is the undisputed leader in battery manufacturing, dominating the global production of essential battery materials such as lithium, cobalt, and nickel. Chinese companies supply 80% of the world’s battery cells and control nearly 60% of the EV battery market.

I purchased a new lithium phosphate battery for my trolling motor 3 weeks ago even though I don't need it until June. Guess who manufactured it.

CarlR33 03-06-2025 09:43 AM

What about your car or golf cart battery? Checked those prices out lately? Yikes.

dhabel2112@gmail.com 03-06-2025 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2413922)
Always been a better option!

You must have owned a lot of lithium carts
Thanks for the advice

Pballer 03-06-2025 12:06 PM

Maybe the golf cart industry can grovel for tariff carve-outs like many other industries have done. They have to ask very nicely though and be very thankful.

MorTech 03-06-2025 12:16 PM

There is plenty of lithium in the USA...but mining is virtually illegal in the USA.
Sodium Ion batteries cant come soon enough :)

bopat 03-06-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2413890)
Canada is a major supplier of lithium for golf cart batteries. Maybe choosing a gas cart is a better option now?

I didn't realize golf cart batteries were different than other lithium batteries. Good to know!

Bogie Shooter 03-06-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2414113)
Maybe the golf cart industry can grovel for tariff carve-outs like many other industries have done. They have to ask very nicely though and be very thankful.

And bend a knee………….

Normal 03-06-2025 01:23 PM

Well Said
 
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2414115)
There is plenty of lithium in the USA...but mining is virtually illegal in the USA.
Sodium Ion batteries cant come soon enough :)

Lithium may be a thing of the past in 2-3 years anyway. The shorts are too darn dangerous.

jimkerr 03-07-2025 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2413890)
Canada is a major supplier of lithium for golf cart batteries. Maybe choosing a gas cart is a better option now?

It’s always been the better option just like with cars.

Rwirish 03-07-2025 06:56 AM

A gas cart is always a better option.

CybrSage 03-07-2025 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2414047)

I purchased a new lithium phosphate battery for my trolling motor 3 weeks ago even though I don't need it until June. Guess who manufactured it.

Chad? *****? Luxembourg?

Edit: heh, it is against the rules to post the name of a specific African country...

CybrSage 03-07-2025 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2414113)
Maybe the golf cart industry can grovel for tariff carve-outs like many other industries have done. They have to ask very nicely though and be very thankful.

Asking nicely for something needed is always the proper thing to do.
The alternative is to not be nice when trying to get something from someone who does not need to give you anything.

Asking nicely and then being thankful for getting it is always the right thing to do. Why suggest it is bad?

Lottoguy 03-07-2025 09:20 AM

Canada is our neighbor to the north and the shortest distance to the USA to be a supplier. South American countries provide very small amounts of lithium to this country because of the distance and costs for distribution.

Snakster66 03-07-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2414332)
Canada is our neighbor to the north and the shortest distance to the USA to be a supplier. South American countries provide very small amounts of lithium to this country because of the distance and costs for distribution.

Again, no sources linked. DOE reports otherwise.

And what? Lithium is transported by mule that distance plays a factor?

To be clear, I couldn't care less who supplies the most. I care about things being factually correct. When there is no referenced support for the premise, the rest of the discussion is moot.

Pat2015 03-07-2025 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakster66 (Post 2414042)
Source? Canada isn't in the top 5 of lithium producing countries. According to Dept of Energy, bewteen 2016 and 2019, the US got over 90% of it's lithium for production from Argentina and Chile.
FOTW #1225, February 14, 2022: From 2016-2019, over 90% of U.S. Lithium Imports Came from Argentina and Chile | Department of Energy.

As of 2023, 94% of lithium still came from those two countries. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2024/mcs2024-lithium.pdf (I imagine Canada MAY be part of the 'other' at 1%.)

Comments above are not intended to be a defense of battery golf cars, or a discussion of golf cars in general for that matter (I have gas golf car). I just want to point out that the OP is based on a false premise. I will retract if documentation can be provided that indicates the less than 1% of Canadian lithium is used specifically for golf car batteries.

Doesn’t fit the narrative of the outraged crowd who see no value in getting a better deal from Canada for trade and border protection.

mntlblok 03-07-2025 10:31 PM

Lac
 
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2414115)
There is plenty of lithium in the USA...but mining is virtually illegal in the USA.
Sodium Ion batteries cant come soon enough :)

Yet Thacker Pass is looking to be on track. . .

tophcfa 03-07-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dhabel2112@gmail.com (Post 2414067)
Thanks for the advice

Your welcome : )


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