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BPRICE1234 03-12-2025 05:43 PM

Turnabout rant
 
Being fairly new, I didn't know that roundabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the roundabouts at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

Update
We were both in the left lane, he was behind me. Another car was in the right lane and was much slower. All 3 cars went straight or 2nd exit. As soon as the slower car slowed more the car behind me floored it to cut them off, get on my bumper and in a matter of 1 exit passed me. I was doing 20-25mph which I consider a very tolerable speed. Some people are simply jerks I guess. Luckily I caught him at Meggison and 44 and just smiled.

Bill14564 03-12-2025 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415635)
Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

I assume you mean roundabout.

Did he do anything more egregious than exit the roundabout before you, did he take an improper exit or prevent you from taking a valid exit?

Stu from NYC 03-12-2025 06:14 PM

We need a demolition derby

bagboy 03-12-2025 06:26 PM

So, now you know...

fdpaq0580 03-12-2025 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2415636)
I assume you mean roundabout.

Did he do anything more egregious than exit the roundabout before you, did he take an improper exit or prevent you from taking a valid exit?


Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

fdpaq0580 03-12-2025 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2415637)
We need a demolition derby

We already have one and it's nation wide. Folks just haven't figured it out yet.

Bill14564 03-12-2025 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2415641)
Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

So the short answer is no, he did nothing more than exit first?

BPRICE1234 03-12-2025 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2415636)
I assume you mean roundabout.

Did he do anything more egregious than exit the roundabout before you, did he take an improper exit or prevent you from taking a valid exit?

He was behind me in the left lane, he sped up and went into the right lane and floored it. I guess he needed to be first to the Morse bypass. Ps. I wasn't going slow.

fdpaq0580 03-12-2025 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2415644)
So the short answer is no, he did nothing more than exit first?

It isn't you. It's them. 😉

jimhoward 03-12-2025 07:18 PM

It’s hard to get the full picture from the short description. Was the speeder already in the roundabout, albeit in the left lane, when the OP entered the roundabout? Or did they both enter together at the same entry.

CarlR33 03-12-2025 08:08 PM

If it makes you feel better we were behind a vehicle on Meggison in broad daylight that refused to pass the golf carts running in the diamond lane in front of them. First I ever saw that one. To comment on your concern, I am curious what time of day this happened? Between 4 and 5 pm it’s like everyone is trying to get home from work and multiple times I have see stuff like you describe??

Snakster66 03-12-2025 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2415636)
I assume you mean roundabout?

I hope so. Because as everyone knows, turnabouts are fair play.

fdpaq0580 03-12-2025 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakster66 (Post 2415654)
I hope so. Because as everyone knows, turnabouts are fair play.

Well said! 😄😆😂

VApeople 03-12-2025 10:35 PM

Don't expect people to drive in a way that suits you. They are going to drive in a manner that suits them.

If you want to live here without going nuts, you will have to find a driving style that suits you.

We have lived here 9 years and we love driving around here.

USOTR 03-13-2025 04:47 AM

Just another example of speed and other traffic laws for both vehicle and village karts needs to be enforced.

Ignatz 03-13-2025 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415646)
He was behind me in the left lane, he sped up and went into the right lane and floored it. I guess he needed to be first to the Morse bypass. Ps. I wasn't going slow.

Can’t wait to read the upcoming thread where someone will be complaining about the left lane hogs on Morse and how they had to pass them on the right. lol

jimkerr 03-13-2025 05:09 AM

People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs.

Davonu 03-13-2025 05:25 AM

Any place in the country, any type of roadway, there will be mostly good drivers and a few bad. Just drive safely and stay alert for those bad ones.

golfing eagles 03-13-2025 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2415641)
Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

98% agree with you. However---ever come up on someone going 3 mph in a RB??? How about the idiots who come to a complete stop??? I will find a way to SAFELY pass them, RB or elsewhere. Yes, I might even cross a solid white line in a RB to do so---too effing bad.

Mrmean58 03-13-2025 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2415641)
Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

I agree that in most cases passing in a round about is unnecessary and can be dangerous. But so is driving 10 mph or slower or coming to a complete stop to wave another driver to enter the round about. If someone cannot safely maintain the proper speed in a round about, they should strongly consider giving up driving. All the driving infractions you list are the reasons the state of Florida are considering being back the law which will require periodic driving road tests for seniors when they reach a certain age. No more auto renewals of driver's license.

kendi 03-13-2025 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkerr (Post 2415677)
People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs.

Driving slower is a good practice as one ages. So is patience with the way others drive.

bark4me 03-13-2025 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2415641)
Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

Will only increase as the population increases.

Nell57 03-13-2025 06:36 AM

You’ll see everything here.
When I go out I just assume the driver near me is getting ready to do something really stupid. They don’t disappoint…..and it’s much worse in snowbird season.
After you’ve been here long enough you realize it’s just how life rolls. Drive defensively and keep on smiling.

Cuervo 03-13-2025 06:50 AM

The other day on my way to Publix I follow a car into the center lane at the traffic circle on Morse Blvd. from Pinellas Pl. When the car reached the second exit Moyer Loop it slowly shifted to the outside lane as if to exit. I almost had to come to a complete stop. Then was surprised they did not exit and also did not take the exit North on Morse Blvd but slowed down, this time I had to come to a complete stop because the car was blocking my exit. It’s one thing to understand the basic rules of the traffic circle, but what can you do with people who don’t know where they are going. Accident waiting to happen.

gorillarick 03-13-2025 07:21 AM

Several examples of defending lousy, inconsiderate, and dangerous behavior here.

example: "People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs."
No you drive like a maniac because you want to. You feel the need on the way to Walmart? Really.

You moved to a retirement community. huumpt
But you resent old people just trying to get there safely.
And you defend people speeding, tailgating, and weaving thru traffic? huumpt

Just this week I was in two pretty bad traffic backups locally. I wonder if reckless driving had anything to do with it?
Or, maybe a senior driver on the way to a doctor's appointment unnerved by a reckless driver driving like a maniac?

rsmurano 03-13-2025 07:22 AM

Speed has nothing to do with it. The worst drivers are the ones that stop before entering before the roundabout when there are no cars in sight for blocks, want to go 5mph around the roundabout, and then people that are in the right lane in a roundabout that have their left blinker on so they can make the 3rd exit, so the blinker is supposed to make the 3rd exit right when it’s against the law.
I pass many people in the left lane in a roundabout because I don’t stop if I don’t see any cars nearby, and I go the speed limit.
Also, you wouldn’t have people going in and out in traffic if the slow drivers would drive in the slow lane, but they don’t and that’s where you have problems. If you drive in Germany, hear slow drivers in the left lane would get a ticket, the Germans know that slow drivers are the problem, not the speeders. Another example in Germany, if you are going 150mph in the left lane on the autobahn, and you see a car coming behind you, you must pull over to the middle or right lane. If you don’t you get a ticket. If you pass on the right, both the driver in the left lane and the passer get tickets, and if somebody flashes their brights on the car in front of them, the slow driver gets a ticket. And Germany is safer to drive at 200mph than we are here in a 20mph roundabout

kkingston57 03-13-2025 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415635)
Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

Lived in TV 5 years. Have never seen anyone going this fast in a roundabout. In order to correctly enter a roundabout is like coming across a yield sign.

srswans 03-13-2025 07:36 AM

U mad u got passed?
 
I don’t understand. You were going fast and you’re angry that someone was able to pass you? In a roundabout no less.

I’m not sure what the problem is here. Ego?


Quote:

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415635)
Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.


CybrSage 03-13-2025 07:50 AM

There are two kinds of whiners wet driving, those who say others are way too fast and those who say others are way to slow.
Neither driving slowly nor quickly is safe to do with others around.

It is fun to read how angry both types get. Stress and anger shorten lifespans, removing both types from the road sooner. It is a win-win. :)

Bill14564 03-13-2025 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2415713)
Several examples of defending lousy, inconsiderate, and dangerous behavior here.

example: "People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs."
No you drive like a maniac because you want to. You feel the need on the way to Walmart? Really.

You moved to a retirement community. huumpt
But you resent old people just trying to get there safely.
And you defend people speeding, tailgating, and weaving thru traffic? huumpt

Just this week I was in two pretty bad traffic backups locally. I wonder if reckless driving had anything to do with it?
Or, maybe a senior driver on the way to a doctor's appointment unnerved by a reckless driver driving like a maniac?

And a perfect example of defining lousy, inconsiderate, and dangerous behavior above.

Paraphrasing:
- If you're not driving the way *I* drive then you're a lousy driver
- If you're driving faster than me then you're a dangerous driver
- If you're changing lanes to pass me then you're an inconsiderate driver

Many causes for traffic backups. I'm surprised such an attentive driver would not have noticed the cause for the backup as they progressed through it.

I've seen backups recently due to heavy traffic at the 44/Morse intersection - no reckless driving caused that.

I saw a backup earlier this wee due to the traffic signal being out at the 44/Morse intersection - no reckless driving caused that.

I've seen backups recently due to very considerate drivers stopping at the entry to a roundabout and waiting not only until there was no traffic approaching but until there was no traffic in sight - ??? Was that a case of reckless driving manifested as overly-considerate driving??

CybrSage 03-13-2025 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415635)
Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

Would you be this angry if the Lexus was White instead of being Brown?
Asking for a friend.

MicRoDrafting 03-13-2025 07:53 AM

I will forever Blame the
“Fast and Furious” franchise for
Extreme Increase in Road Rage.

Primarily, the Excessive Speeding,
Tailgating, and Ridiculous Zigzagging
by the fellas in Souped Up Little Go-Cart Vehicles with the Overbearing Loud Mufflers - that actually help us acknowledge their [dangerous] presence on the roads.

THINKING;
where else would these folks get the Crazy idea that driving Extremely Erratically on the Roadways like they are in some sort of Action Movie come from ??

Decadeofdave 03-13-2025 08:25 AM

I love the people that honk when it wasn't even close.
Fake outrage!

Regorp 03-13-2025 08:26 AM

Roundabout
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415635)
Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

Signal lights are in the vehicle for a reason - USE THEM!!

Peachbelle 03-13-2025 08:33 AM

Roundabouts- Lean how to properly Drive in them!
 
If you notice before you enter a roundabout there is a diagram street sign on what to do. Let's review; if you enter from the right lane you can ONLY take the 1 or 2nd exit! NOT THE 3RD! If you take the 3rd exit and cause an accident its YOUR FAULT!
To use the 3RD EXIT YOU MUST ENTER FROM THE LEFT LANE! LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM BEFORE ENTERING PEOPLE IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OBEY TRAFFIC SIGNS OR YOU WILL BE AT FAULT!

nn0wheremann 03-13-2025 08:49 AM

Never pass or overtake anyone in a roundabout. The vehicle ahead of you has full unfettered right of way to do anything, or turn in any direction. Also, that speed limit of 20 mph is there for a reason. You cannot see around the island, and there may be men working around the bend. Hit one, and you might spend the rest of your life seeing him on a billboard lawyer’s advertising, while you serve your sentence for vehicular homicide .

Bill14564 03-13-2025 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2415760)
Never pass or overtake anyone in a roundabout. The vehicle ahead of you has full unfettered right of way to do anything, or turn in any direction. Also, that speed limit of 20 mph is there for a reason. You cannot see around the island, and there may be men working around the bend. Hit one, and you might spend the rest of your life seeing him on a billboard lawyer’s advertising, while you serve your sentence for vehicular homicide .

A bit extreme, don't you think?

The vehicle ahead of you DOES NOT have full, unfettered right of way to do anything, or turn in any direction. Some believe they do but they are wrong.

Notwithstanding the number and length of these threads, the rules of the roundabouts are very simple and are marked at every entrance to every roundabout in the Villages. Learn them, follow them, have a safe drive.

I have never seen workers in a roundabout without a plethora of orange cones and signs and usually a truck. If you are so distracted that you don't see all of that then an admonishment here on ToTV is not going to help.

MrFlorida 03-13-2025 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2415635)
Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

It gets better starting in April.

georgefloto 03-13-2025 09:23 AM

Totally agree
 
Totally agree

Tyson 03-13-2025 09:57 AM

Since your new, DONT EVER GO AROUND A ROUNDABOUT FROM THE RIGHT LANE. Say that 20 times.


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