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arbajeda 04-23-2025 01:37 PM

Are you tired of taking a shower every time you turn your hose bib off?
 
This may be the answer you have been searching for:

Amazon.com

villagetinker 04-23-2025 03:26 PM

Interesting device, I have found if you keep the hose on while turning the wall spigot off you will not get sprayed.

frayedends 04-23-2025 03:32 PM

I just tighten the hose to the bib properly and make sure I have good gaskets. Never had a problem. Of course, now that I say that I'm sure I will get sprayed next time I turn it off.

Whatnext 04-23-2025 03:40 PM

As post #2 says.
Turn off the water supply. Release hose pressure. No shower. Really very simple.
Save $7.37

Toymeister 04-23-2025 03:48 PM

Remove the anti syphon device/ backflow preventer and remove the problem. There is a set screw that you will have to drill out. Use a 5/32 dril bit to accomplish this.

No magic shutdown sequence required.

If the spash guard appeals to you fashion one from a red solo cup

Whatnext 04-23-2025 03:58 PM

I was under the impression everyone removed anti siphon devices before installing.
More trouble than they are worth.

Bill14564 04-23-2025 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2426613)
I just tighten the hose to the bib properly and make sure I have good gaskets. Never had a problem. Of course, now that I say that I'm sure I will get sprayed next time I turn it off.

The anti-siphon device is designed to relieve pressure by spraying out. No amount of tightening will prevent it.

vintageogauge 04-23-2025 04:55 PM

I just keep mine wrapped with a old small hand towel to divert the spray, 1 minute, no cost.

Spartan86 04-23-2025 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2426630)
The anti-siphon device is designed to relieve pressure by spraying out. No amount of tightening will prevent it.

Well, I replaced mine with new and no longer have the problem. FWIW

Bill14564 04-23-2025 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan86 (Post 2426661)
Well, I replaced mine with new and no longer have the problem. FWIW

What model? Many on here would like to have one that does not spray.

Triker 04-23-2025 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2426613)
I just tighten the hose to the bib properly and make sure I have good gaskets. Never had a problem. Of course, now that I say that I'm sure I will get sprayed next time I turn it off.

Install one of these on the anti siphon device before the garden hose. Then simply turn this off and then the hose bibb and there will be no gushing mess on your feet.

djlnc 04-23-2025 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 2426602)
This may be the answer you have been searching for:

Amazon.com

$7.37 for a 25 cent piece of plastic? Shark Tank would love it - 'Great margin'!

kcrazorbackfan 04-23-2025 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 2426602)
This may be the answer you have been searching for:

Amazon.com

That’s brilliant; I use the hoses outside a lot; ordered 4.

CarlR33 04-23-2025 09:16 PM

Never had an issue since my anti siphon valves fell off. Of course I will replace them if I ever sell the home.

coffeebean 04-23-2025 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2426612)
Interesting device, I have found if you keep the hose on while turning the wall spigot off you will not get sprayed.

What tinker said. That is exactly what I do.

frayedends 04-24-2025 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2426630)
The anti-siphon device is designed to relieve pressure by spraying out. No amount of tightening will prevent it.

Ahh I see. I am unfamiliar with this feature.

asianthree 04-24-2025 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2426612)
Interesting device, I have found if you keep the hose on while turning the wall spigot off you will not get sprayed.

My granddaddy method exactly the same….turn off the water let the hose empty.

jimkerr 04-24-2025 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2426612)
Interesting device, I have found if you keep the hose on while turning the wall spigot off you will not get sprayed.

This is exactly what I do! It works 100% of the time.

Heytubes 04-24-2025 06:48 AM

They are to prevent back flow. Years ago a man was spraying fertilizer through his hose and turned the device off. Went into the house and drank water from the kitchen sink directly over the hose bib. Guess what occurred?

Jimmy Lee 04-24-2025 06:54 AM

Attached my garden hose with hose-end spray attachment shut off. Turned on the water supply to pressurize the hose. Turned of the water supply. Got a bath. Your advice besides being snarky is WRONG!

Bill14564 04-24-2025 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heytubes (Post 2426711)
They are to prevent back flow. Years ago a man was spraying fertilizer through his hose and turned the device off. Went into the house and drank water from the kitchen sink directly over the hose bib. Guess what occurred?

My guess: Absolutely nothing.

Sorry, but this sounds too much like an urban legend. I am ready to stand corrected if a link can be provided.

Spartan86 04-24-2025 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2426662)
What model? Many on here would like to have one that does not spray.

I removed the anti siphon on the spigot and replaced it with the same thing. It was not super easy to get off as I believe it was/is customary for the installer to tighten the set screw and then break the head off. I soaked it well with WD40, then held the spigot body in place with a wrench while using another to un thread the old valve. The threads appeared unharmed and the replacement unit doesn’t leak - I had both a steady leak and the proverbial shower issue.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...Z4EB/205815672

Bill14564 04-24-2025 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan86 (Post 2426717)
I removed the anti siphon on the spigot and replaced it with the same thing. It was not super easy to get off as I believe it was/is customary for the installer to tighten the set screw and then break the head off. I soaked it well with WD40, then held the spigot body in place with a wrench while using another to un thread the old valve. The threads appeared unharmed and the replacement unit doesn’t leak - I had both a steady leak and the proverbial shower issue.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...Z4EB/205815672

Thanks.

Interesting. It is designed to relieve pressure through the holes that you see in the picture. It is the escaping water that causes the shower. I wonder if it can be tightened enough to prevent it from working properly. I wouldn't think so but...

If you don't get the shower then it is not relieving pressure - does that mean it is not functioning properly? After you shut off the water is there still pressure in the hose?

Spartan86 04-24-2025 07:15 AM

Both of my spigots would “shower” even with hose nozzle full open. Now, I am using the collapsible hoses that do naturally “back pressure” a bit as they collapse. I simply assumed the spigot valves were basically check valves that failed. So far that analysis seems to stand in my situation. Also as said I had a lot of leakage at the spigot while using the hose which is not the case any longer. My valves were 2019 installs - they don’t make em like they used to.

Spartan86 04-24-2025 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2426721)
Thanks.

Interesting. It is designed to relieve pressure through the holes that you see in the picture. It is the escaping water that causes the shower. I wonder if it can be tightened enough to prevent it from working properly. I wouldn't think so but...

If you don't get the shower then it is not relieving pressure - does that mean it is not functioning properly? After you shut off the water is there still pressure in the hose?

Victor, I could be off my rocker, but I have assumed them to be check valves. Under normal ops, the 60ish psi water pressure allows flow to hose. With the spigot valve off, residual water pressure remains in my hose until relieved at the nozzle. With new valves - vacuum breakers - I get no leakage/relief/dripping at all at the spigot. Mine now behave as if there were no vacuum breaker at all. I contemplated not replacing them but ultimately did.

Spartan86 04-24-2025 07:36 AM

For what it’s worth, the AI answer is:

A spigot vacuum breaker should not leak water constantly, but it might drip slightly under certain conditions. Here’s what to check:

- During use – A few drops while the water is running is normal.
- After shutting off – A small amount of residual water may escape briefly.
- Persistent leaking – If water continuously drips or sprays from the vacuum breaker, it may be faulty, worn out, or have a bad seal.

jarodrig 04-24-2025 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2426615)
As post #2 says.
Turn off the water supply. Release hose pressure. No shower. Really very simple.
Save $7.37

Re-read post # 2 . What you said is not what post 2 says.

SpartanMark 04-24-2025 07:45 AM

A brief shower
 
Personally I prefer the quick "washdown" since I'm normally sweaty from working around the yard and it's a rather exhilarating and welcome "surprise".

Wondering 04-24-2025 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 2426602)
This may be the answer you have been searching for:

Amazon.com

Expensive for a piece of plastic!

MrFlorida 04-24-2025 07:57 AM

Turn the water off, drain the hose.. what's the fuss ?

Driller703 04-24-2025 08:22 AM

If you remove the anti-siphon valve, you must replace it if you sell the house, or it will not pass inspection, as I recently discovered.

Bill14564 04-24-2025 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2426742)
Turn the water off, drain the hose.. what's the fuss ?

With anti-siphon/vacuum breaker, turning the water off results in the "shower." This is normal and not a problem except you will likely get a little wet. Once the water is turned off there is no need to drain the hose. There will still be water in the hose but no pressure.

To avoid the "shower" you can hold the hose nozzle open while turning off the water as was described in post #2. Because the nozzle is open there will be no pressure in the hose. Because there is no pressure in the hose there is no water pushing back against the vacuum breaker. Because there is no water pushing back against the vacuum breaker there is nothing to spray out and cause the "shower."

retiredguy123 04-24-2025 08:28 AM

If you notice, all of the faucets in your house discharge water above the rim of the fixture, and they do not have a threaded connection for a hose. Your outside hose bibbs are designed to connect a hose. When you use a hose, there is always the possibility for a negative pressure to develop and cause water to backflow into the house and contaminate the potable water. This is the reason that the plumbing code requires a backflow prevention device on all outside hose bibbs.

In my opinion, the best way to avoid the splashing is to install a second valve, similar to the one shown in Post No. 11. This will prevent splashing and it will not compromise the backflow prevention device.

nordic tug 04-24-2025 08:37 AM

Splash back preventer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 2426602)
This may be the answer you have been searching for:

Amazon.com

I took a Gator Aid bottle with its wide mouth and cut it straight down the middle than cut the bottom off, slide the two pieces as far up as you can and wire tie it in place , it works!

zuidemab 04-24-2025 08:39 AM

plastic water bottle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arbajeda (Post 2426602)
This may be the answer you have been searching for:

Amazon.com

The gizmo reminded me of a shorty plastic water bottle with the bottom cut off. So mine was free :

maistocars 04-24-2025 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2426612)
Interesting device, I have found if you keep the hose on while turning the wall spigot off you will not get sprayed.

Totally agree!

Michael G. 04-24-2025 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2426620)
I was under the impression everyone removed anti siphon devices before installing.
More trouble than they are worth.

At one time, home inspectors insist on adding them before your house can to sold. :rant-rave:

DonnaNi4os 04-24-2025 09:44 AM

I use the “hose guppy” I purchased on Amazon. Before finding that I took an empty “Bai” bottle, cut off the bottom so I had half the height of the bottle and put a slit in the neck. It fit over the faucet just fine and I threaded the hose through. It just didn’t look as nice as the hose guppy from Amazon

JRcorvette 04-24-2025 02:02 PM

You are correct

dewilson58 04-24-2025 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2426617)
Remove the anti syphon device/ backflow preventer and remove the problem. There is a set screw that you will have to drill out. Use a 5/32 dril bit to accomplish this.

No magic shutdown sequence required.

If the spash guard appeals to you fashion one from a red solo cup

Agree.......................just remove the device.


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