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CoachKandSportsguy 05-21-2025 02:00 PM

23 and Me -> Mom's data
 
Higher than 88% of the sampled data of Neanderthal genetic markers. .

273 out of an observed max of about 500. . .

anyone else have that in their genetic testing?

Velvet 05-21-2025 02:11 PM

Didn’t they go bankrupt?

Maybe a coincidence but up and down my street the people with most health problems are the ones who have been getting tests and preemptive care etc. maybe the others just don’t know they have problems. My personal physician thinks I have another doctor on the side, because I see him so rarely.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-21-2025 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2433051)
Didn’t they go bankrupt?

Maybe a coincidence but up and down my street the people with most health problems are the ones who have been getting tests and preemptive care etc. maybe the others just don’t know they have problems. My personal physician thinks I have another doctor on the side, because I see him so rarely.

bankrupt?
yes,
did the data and research already published disappear?
no
Did someone agree to buy it and keep it going?
yes

HappyTraveler 05-21-2025 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433049)
Higher than 88% of the sampled data of Neanderthal genetic markers. .

273 out of an observed max of about 500. . .

anyone else have that in their genetic testing?

Buyer beware -- you're giving your DNA away to a corporation.

Now, all of that 23andme data is being sold to another corporation who made no privacy commitment to the original customers about their DNA.

Caveat emptor, folks.

CFrance 05-21-2025 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2433062)
Buyer beware -- you're giving your DNA away to a corporation.

Now, all of that 23andme data is being sold to another corporation who made no privacy commitment to the original customers about their DNA.

Caveat emptor, folks.

Agree. Never thought that DNA data thing was a good idea. I don't care who my ancestors were and where my long-lost cousins are enough to put my DNA out on a public web site. My kids would crucify me as well. They are so private.

Velvet 05-21-2025 06:05 PM

Yes, I know my parents, my grand parents and my great grandparents. And if I happen to be wrong, I prefer to think just what I think now. I doubt that I am going to find out that I am really the last Romanov alive etc. Just speaking for myself.

Decadeofdave 05-21-2025 06:20 PM

I would NEVER give my DNA to anyone. Saw the train wreck of an idea coming a mile away, 10 years ago. People are gullible to marketing.

Eg_cruz 05-22-2025 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2433085)
I would NEVER give my DNA to anyone. Saw the train wreck of an idea coming a mile away, 10 years ago. People are gullible to marketing.

Try getting DNA testing from your doctors, we tried for 6 years to get our grandsons. We did 23 and me because between the doctor and insurance we fought for over 6 years. 23 and me help us prove it needed to be done. Finally the doctor approved DNA testing and now he is getting the proper treatment.
I will always to grateful there was 23 and me because it help us

Caymus 05-22-2025 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433049)
Higher than 88% of the sampled data of Neanderthal genetic markers. .

273 out of an observed max of about 500. . .

anyone else have that in their genetic testing?

A high number doesn't surprise me. If I remember correctly, Neanderthals developed in cold weather climates like Europe and interbred with Homo Sapiens when they migrated into the region.

Ptmcbriz 05-22-2025 06:23 AM

Love the DNA data you get these days. It’s fascinating. I could care less who has it or sees it. Our family kept thinking they had Irish roots when in fact, we were only 7% Irish. However, We were 38% Scottish. That was a complete surprise.

BigSteph 05-22-2025 06:57 AM

My family was certain we had native American ancestry.

I tested with one of the 2 larger firms (I forget which one). I opted out of storing the data.

The boring stuff is that I am mostly German and English.

The interesting finding was that I was part Indian -- just not the Native American kind.

I was also part Egyptian and part Sierra Leone.

The first joke my liberal sister told me after we found out was "When are we getting our reparations". That was hilarious coming from a dyed-in-the-wool liberal white woman.

Teemotay 05-22-2025 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2433062)
Buyer beware -- you're giving your DNA away to a corporation.

Now, all of that 23andme data is being sold to another corporation who made no privacy commitment to the original customers about their DNA.

Caveat emptor, folks.

That’s correct. I received several emails about this from 23 & me and followed the instructions they supplied to permanently delete my data and account information.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-22-2025 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2433082)
Yes, I know my parents, my grand parents and my great grandparents. And if I happen to be wrong, I prefer to think just what I think now. I doubt that I am going to find out that I am really the last Romanov alive etc. Just speaking for myself.

We did not know my mother's side at all, and my maternal grandmother has ZERO information other than a birth place and a death certificate. My maternal grandparents divorced when my mom was 4, and when she was a teenager, was raised in a boarding house, with parents over an hour away, and an aunt living in town near her. . .

So not afraid of what "they" will do with some DNA of a now deceased person. . . and in my mom's family, there is so many backwoods relationships and missing people, that whatever people are fearful of, is mostly imaginary.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-22-2025 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2433120)
A high number doesn't surprise me. If I remember correctly, Neanderthals developed in cold weather climates like Europe and interbred with Homo Sapiens when they migrated into the region.

Thanks. .

This makes sense when all the genetic markers trace based to northern Europe ancestry. .

Nancy@Pinellas 05-22-2025 09:08 AM

There are absolutely advantages to having a dna test. I’m glad for your grandson.

villagetinker 05-22-2025 10:25 AM

The flip side of this, I gave my wife an Ancestry gift card, and 18 months later she gets a call about a CLOSE relative. She found a long lost sister (over 70 years) and the sister found a whole new family, and the sister and her husband (who also gave her an Ancestry kit) are now living in FL.

Risuli 05-22-2025 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Decadeofdave (Post 2433085)
I would NEVER give my DNA to anyone. Saw the train wreck of an idea coming a mile away, 10 years ago. People are gullible to marketing.

If you've had kids, you've already given it away! What THEY do with their DNA info is up to them.

HORNET 05-22-2025 01:35 PM

Be careful to participate

CoachKandSportsguy 05-22-2025 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2433279)
Be careful to participate

So please explain your comment in detail:
1) how to be careful
2) what to watch out for
3) signs that you failed to be careful


or is this just general fear mongering of the unknown. .

thanks! we can all learn from your wisdom

asianthree 05-23-2025 04:53 AM

Our oldest wanted to add forensic DNA PHD once he retired his practice in the US to live in UK. I am 231 (of 1026) pages of research for his thesis.

All testing privately, using bone DNA from 4 generations of native ancestors. Then comparing to modern day tribe DNA. Six generations in Europe from my father’s side.

He jokes about who actually runs $39 base DNA testing on public sites. Sometimes certificate is all that is needed.

His 10 years in Europe he opened a DNA business to identify human remains. For government and private entities. In some areas of Europe one can’t dig a new flower bed without finding a bone or two. New Mass Plague sites are still found to this day.

HospitalCoder 05-23-2025 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433049)
Higher than 88% of the sampled data of Neanderthal genetic markers. .

273 out of an observed max of about 500. . .

anyone else have that in their genetic testing?

Yes, and my husband loves to tell this to people. He thinks it’s hilarious.

Bwanajim 06-12-2025 03:29 PM

No way in hell I'm gonna give anybody my DNA info!!

shut the front door 06-12-2025 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2433069)
Agree. Never thought that DNA data thing was a good idea. I don't care who my ancestors were and where my long-lost cousins are enough to put my DNA out on a public web site. My kids would crucify me as well. They are so private.

For many adoptees, this testing is the only way they have of finding critical medical information.
I don't have any plans to become a serial killer, so it doesn't bother me.

Topspinmo 06-12-2025 04:24 PM

I was born bassard child raised by my grandmother. I could care less about my dead beat dad side of his family? Why cause he cared less about me. Nothing free in life, somebody making money? So what found out something about someone who had no contact throughout your life, plus I would have second DNA done just make sure I didn’t get scammed on first one. I’m probably related to half of Swiss’s population?

shut the front door 06-12-2025 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2438612)
I was born bassard child raised by my grandmother. I could care less about my dead beat dad side of his family? Why cause he cared less about me. Nothing free in life, somebody making money? So what found out something about someone who had no contact throughout your life, plus I would have second DNA done just make sure I didn’t get scammed on first one. I’m probably related to half of Swiss’s population?

I can't reply to this until it is translated for me.

MarshBendLover 06-12-2025 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2433082)
Yes, I know my parents, my grand parents and my great grandparents. And if I happen to be wrong, I prefer to think just what I think now. I doubt that I am going to find out that I am really the last Romanov alive etc. Just speaking for myself.

:bowdown:

Topspinmo 06-12-2025 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2438613)
I can't reply to this until it is translated for me.


Try English. :pepper2:

retiredguy123 06-13-2025 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2433049)
Higher than 88% of the sampled data of Neanderthal genetic markers. .

273 out of an observed max of about 500. . .

anyone else have that in their genetic testing?

I am not a dna testing expert but, as I understsnd it, Neanderthals were considered a distinct species, and humans did not evolve from them.

fdpaq0580 06-13-2025 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2438710)
I am not a dna testing expert but, as I understsnd it, Neanderthals were considered a distinct species, and humans did not evolve from them.

Correct. But close enough to interbreed But people today are mostly mixes/hybrids, and carry genes of any number of our ancestors. We are, mostly, mutts.

shut the front door 06-13-2025 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2438643)
Try English. :pepper2:

Try taking your own advice cuz I have no idea what a bassard is.

fdpaq0580 06-13-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwanajim (Post 2438604)
No way in hell I'm gonna give anybody my DNA info!!

Too late!

fdpaq0580 06-13-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2438782)
Try taking your own advice cuz I have no idea what a bassard is.

I'm one. Full blooded. That makes me the King of Gondwana Land. That and a $10.00 dollar bill entitles me to get a "free" coffee at Starbucks. Eat your heart out.
🫅

Topspinmo 06-15-2025 08:09 AM

Well, well. Heard on news this morning personnel data at risk.

Topspinmo 06-15-2025 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2438782)
Try taking your own advice cuz I have no idea what a bassard is.

No imagination.

Topspinmo 06-15-2025 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwanajim (Post 2438604)
No way in hell I'm gonna give anybody my DNA info!!

But, but it free and you gets guess where you’re ancient family came from. Like they know?

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-15-2025 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2438612)
I was born bassard child raised by my grandmother. I could care less about my dead beat dad side of his family? Why cause he cared less about me. Nothing free in life, somebody making money? So what found out something about someone who had no contact throughout your life, plus I would have second DNA done just make sure I didn’t get scammed on first one. I’m probably related to half of Swiss’s population?

If you were ever in need of an organ or bone marrow transplant, the FIRST place to look for a suitable donor match, is a blood relative. So you're just eliminating half of your blood relatives, because you reject your father. I mean it's your choice, your life.

But I wouldn't be so quick to disregard the option, if I was ever in a situation where disregarding it meant a slow, painful, and preventable death.

As for me, I know my immediate ancestry, I can personally trace it back five generations. The oldest generation was dead before my parents ever even met each other, the next two-oldest are all dead now. My dad's siblings are all dead, but I believe he has first cousins still living. My mom's siblings are all still living, and she has first cousins still alive. If I ever needed a donor match, I'd be able to name names and reach out for assistance from either side of the family.

Never needed any DNA testing though. We (our family line, not me personally because it's not that interesting to me) can trace our heritage to the tribe of Judah, as my family on both sides are ancestral Jews (meaning, none of them converted, or intermarried with non-Jews before my parent's generation was born, and both my parents were ancestral Jews who married each other).

Topspinmo 06-15-2025 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2439197)
If you were ever in need of an organ or bone marrow transplant, the FIRST place to look for a suitable donor match, is a blood relative. So you're just eliminating half of your blood relatives, because you reject your father. I mean it's your choice, your life.

But I wouldn't be so quick to disregard the option, if I was ever in a situation where disregarding it meant a slow, painful, and preventable death.

As for me, I know my immediate ancestry, I can personally trace it back five generations. The oldest generation was dead before my parents ever even met each other, the next two-oldest are all dead now. My dad's siblings are all dead, but I believe he has first cousins still living. My mom's siblings are all still living, and she has first cousins still alive. If I ever needed a donor match, I'd be able to name names and reach out for assistance from either side of the family.

Never needed any DNA testing though. We (our family line, not me personally because it's not that interesting to me) can trace our heritage to the tribe of Judah, as my family on both sides are ancestral Jews (meaning, none of them converted, or intermarried with non-Jews before my parent's generation was born, and both my parents were ancestral Jews who married each other).

I agree medical problems testing. But, I won’t give up my DNA to free data banks so they can sell information on me sucking me in thinking I’m someone special. My choice, others can do what they want.

Topspinmo 06-15-2025 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2438710)
I am not a dna testing expert but, as I understsnd it, Neanderthals were considered a distinct species, and humans did not evolve from them.

Look around some still roaming the earth… :shocked:

HappyTraveler 06-15-2025 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2439227)
Look around some still roaming the earth… :shocked:

Yes, like that local guy recently urinating on food in Sam's Club. He qualifies.

Whatnext 06-16-2025 04:00 AM

I see many would not want their DNA on record. Can someone explain how others knowing it would be detrimental, or is it just a privacy thing?
Can it be used by the bad guys?
I can't see the pitfalls of having the test, not that I have any interest in my finding out my DNA at all.


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