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dougawhite 05-26-2025 10:41 AM

Villages Anti-Rain Zone
 
I'm not a meterologist, but I have hypothesized that because of the high density of air conditioner units in The Villages blowing hot air skyward all day (especially hot days) that we create a constant upward flow of warm dry air that impacts how approaching storms hold onto their water as they pass through. Warm rising air holds more water, keeping it from falling from the passing clouds. Any meteorologist have an idea?

djlnc 05-26-2025 11:15 AM

It's very frustrating watching radar to see the storms dissipating or changing direction as they approach The Villages!

Pondboy 05-26-2025 11:51 AM


 


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sunnyFLORIDA5828 05-26-2025 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2434185)
It's very frustrating watching radar to see the storms dissipating or changing direction as they approach The Villages!

So agree. One can never be certain here around TV. So many times, 100% chance, orange/red radar SO close to us… and just miss or turn north/south or… you know. It’s aggravating esp when we could use a nice downpour. No idea why this area seems to be on the dry side. Around Orlando and I4 and the Parks - seems to get dumped on….
grrr. Now watch us get flooding here next week…

kansasr 05-26-2025 03:23 PM

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Everyone knows it that strange silo that sits adjacent to Turtle Mound that directs all the rain away from The Villages

Lottoguy 05-26-2025 03:41 PM

So I guess Leesburg, Clermont, Orlando and Ocala don’t have A/C?

Taltarzac725 05-26-2025 03:55 PM

Excess heat from air conditioners causes higher nighttime temperatures | ASU News


You might be onto something.

JohnN 05-26-2025 03:56 PM

I've named it the Bonita Hill Effect. Seems like a high point in the area (I know, it's not THAT high) and it splits the systems in half.
I'll buy that before I do the air conditioning

dewilson58 05-26-2025 05:29 PM

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tophcfa 05-26-2025 05:31 PM

I knew it was going to stop raining as soon as I dropped the coin to install a rain sensor into my irrigation system to save on the monthly water/sewer bill.

Topspinmo 05-26-2025 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dougawhite (Post 2434178)
I'm not a meterologist, but I have hypothesized that because of the high density of air conditioner units in The Villages blowing hot air skyward all day (especially hot days) that we create a constant upward flow of warm dry air that impacts how approaching storms hold onto their water as they pass through. Warm rising air holds more water, keeping it from falling from the passing clouds. Any meteorologist have an idea?


IMO that and concrete jungle and roof tops….:oops:

Ruger2506 05-26-2025 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2434281)
I knew it was going to stop raining as soon as I dropped the coin to install a rain sensor into my irrigation system to save on the monthly water/sewer bill.

Oh they saw you coming. Those darn things work 1/2 the time.

Topspinmo 05-26-2025 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2434253)
I've named it the Bonita Hill Effect. Seems like a high point in the area (I know, it's not THAT high) and it splits the systems in half.
I'll buy that before I do the air conditioning

I’d that case it would never get pass Hillsboro county…. :22yikes:

margaretmattson 05-27-2025 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dougawhite (Post 2434178)
I'm not a meterologist, but I have hypothesized that because of the high density of air conditioner units in The Villages blowing hot air skyward all day (especially hot days) that we create a constant upward flow of warm dry air that impacts how approaching storms hold onto their water as they pass through. Warm rising air holds more water, keeping it from falling from the passing clouds. Any meteorologist have an idea?

As of May 20, 2025, 42% of Florida is experiencing drought conditions and 20% is abnormally dry. It is not solely a Villages problem. Meteorologists blame a lack of cold fronts and evaporation. A few other factors were mentioned.

A Florida map showing drought conditions lists the Villages as serious drought. Some cities have us beat. They are experiencing extreme drought. Others are experiencing moderate drought. 14.5 million people are affected.

MorTech 05-27-2025 02:18 AM

It's the exhaust from all the gas golf carts.
Maybe if everyone washed their car tomorrow, it will rain.

USNA87 05-27-2025 05:36 AM

In theory, if there is a significant release of warm, dry air into the atmosphere due to air conditioner units, it could potentially influence the stability and moisture content of the air in that region. However, the actual impact on approaching storms would depend on various factors, including the scale of the local effect compared to the broader atmospheric conditions, such as wind patterns, humidity levels, and temperature gradients.

Meteorologists often study such microscale effects as part of understanding local climate and weather variations. To evaluate your hypothesis rigorously, one would need detailed data and modeling to assess how much influence local air conditioner emissions might have on storm behavior. It's a fascinating area where local human activities can intersect with natural atmospheric processes.

asianthree 05-27-2025 05:38 AM

It’s pour down rain in the parks for 3 days and 7 more days predicted. Maybe take couple of buckets over.

Then again don’t wish too hard for rain twice last year we dumped 11” out of the pool.

SaucyJim 05-27-2025 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dougawhite (Post 2434178)
I'm not a meterologist, but I have hypothesized that because of the high density of air conditioner units in The Villages blowing hot air skyward all day (especially hot days) that we create a constant upward flow of warm dry air that impacts how approaching storms hold onto their water as they pass through. Warm rising air holds more water, keeping it from falling from the passing clouds. Any meteorologist have an idea?

Those who believe this should simply power down their ACs as the storm approaches. Another thing that helps is to get your car detailed and leave it parked in the driveway - not the garage. Lastly, sealing your driveway or pouring a concrete pad in your yard will attract the storms, as well.

Nana2Teddy 05-27-2025 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2434367)
Those who believe this should simply power down their ACs as the storm approaches. Another thing that helps is to get your car detailed and leave it parked in the driveway - not the garage. Lastly, sealing your driveway or pouring a concrete pad in your yard will attract the storms, as well.

The last downpour earlier this month happened two hours after we had the exterior of our windows washed. Also, when hubby took our new Suburu for its first car wash last month, it poured while he was driving home. Murphy’s Law!

VillagesDude 05-27-2025 07:06 AM

The small amount of air moved by individual condensers is insignificant compared to the vast amount of air in the atmosphere that drives weather patterns. Weather is primarily influenced by factors like solar radiation, temperature differences, atmospheric pressure, and humidity, which are not directly related to the operation of air conditioning systems. It is highly unlikely that the mass amount of air conditioning units in the Villages has any effect on the weather. We are heading into "rainy season" which should alleviate the deficit over time.

craarmy 05-27-2025 07:28 AM

i am truely surprised nobody is blaming the owners of the Villages for this:girlneener:

chrisinva 05-27-2025 07:28 AM

what he said

MrFlorida 05-27-2025 07:42 AM

Hopefully, when hurricane's come, they will follow suit.

Ptmcbriz 05-27-2025 07:52 AM

I doubt it. Seems that would be insignificant compared to the strength of wind current and storms. Seems more likely it’s topographical or geological design in the earth that steers many storms around us. It could even be magnetic composition of the substrate of the earth’s crust here. It would take that kind of magnitude to may an impact. It not only steers around us but knocks the strength down significantly when it reaches us, but I would that part is due to no longer drawing off the ocean waters which lessons the strength. Regardless it’s a blessing when it comes to hurricanes.

bobmarc 05-27-2025 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=dougawhite;2434178]I'm not a meterologist," That's for sure!!

dougawhite 05-27-2025 08:31 AM

Thanks almost everyone for their input. I'm scoring my hypothesis as a definite maybe. See you all soon...

gorillarick 05-27-2025 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2434328)
As of May 20, 2025, 42% of Florida is experiencing drought conditions and 20% is abnormally dry. It is not solely a Villages problem. Meteorologists blame a lack of cold fronts and evaporation. A few other factors were mentioned.

A Florida map showing drought conditions lists the Villages as serious drought. Some cities have us beat. They are experiencing extreme drought. Others are experiencing moderate drought. 14.5 million people are affected.

The first post's premise may have come credibility. You mention cities being drought areas; they're full of hot asphalt parking lots, roads, and roofs, and tons of air conditioners.

But worry not: In a few months you'll wish we got hit by less thunderstorms and rain !

margaretmattson 05-27-2025 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2434424)
The first post's premise may have come
credibility. You
mention cities
being drought
areas; they're full
of hot asphalt
parking lots,
roads, and roofs,
and tons of air
conditioners.

But worry not: In
a few months
you'll wish we
got hit by less
thunderstorms
and rain !

You are acting like I pulled my information out of thin air. Meteoroligists do indeed track droughts and their findings are available to anyone who wishes to read them. And yes, they provide information about each city in Florida.

Byte1 05-27-2025 10:59 AM

And the hot Florida weather is caused by old seniors' flatulence, also known as man caused global warming. Everyone knows that Florida has a majority of retired seniors.

Pugchief 05-27-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2434448)
And the hot Florida weather is caused by old seniors' flatulence, also known as man caused global warming. Everyone knows that Florida has a majority of retired seniors.

So that's what that smell is!

Pugchief 05-27-2025 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2434331)
It's the exhaust from all the gas golf carts.

I anticipated that response, but I expected it from someone else....

jimjamuser 05-27-2025 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2434252)

I wonder how population density affects the heat rising up from concrete and asphalt roads?

jimjamuser 05-27-2025 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2434331)
It's the exhaust from all the gas golf carts.
Maybe if everyone washed their car tomorrow, it will rain.

I wonder if Electric golf carts were required, would that CHANGE the local rainfall and temperatures?

Pugchief 05-27-2025 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2434331)
It's the exhaust from all the gas golf carts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2434463)
I anticipated that response, but I expected it from someone else....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2434499)
I wonder if Electric golf carts were required, would that CHANGE the local rainfall and temperatures?

Aaand, just like clockwork...

jimjamuser 05-27-2025 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by USNA87 (Post 2434350)
In theory, if there is a significant release of warm, dry air into the atmosphere due to air conditioner units, it could potentially influence the stability and moisture content of the air in that region. However, the actual impact on approaching storms would depend on various factors, including the scale of the local effect compared to the broader atmospheric conditions, such as wind patterns, humidity levels, and temperature gradients.

Meteorologists often study such microscale effects as part of understanding local climate and weather variations. To evaluate your hypothesis rigorously, one would need detailed data and modeling to assess how much influence local air conditioner emissions might have on storm behavior. It's a fascinating area where local human activities can intersect with natural atmospheric processes.

Well, increased world population in the last 10 years has CAUSED increased worldwide HEAT. So, I assume, that there is a LOCAL effect on temperatures and rain. Hotter air holds more moisture. Eventually, each year, Florida will have hotter temperatures, heavier rains, and bigger, stronger hurricanes.

tophcfa 05-27-2025 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2434499)
I wonder if Electric golf carts were required, would that CHANGE the local rainfall and temperatures?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2434331)
It's the exhaust from all the gas golf carts.

Oh no, say it isn’t so. Not another one : )

jimjamuser 05-27-2025 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2434461)
So that's what that smell is!

If the lakes dry all the way up, they will produce a swamp gas smell greater than any humans can produce.

darkim 05-27-2025 03:11 PM

Don’t worry … any cold air is already falling off the edge of your flat earth

MorTech 05-27-2025 04:15 PM

I texted god and he/she/them/they/it rerouted a rain cloud over us today. You're welcome.

MorTech 05-27-2025 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2434499)
I wonder if Electric golf carts were required, would that CHANGE the local rainfall and temperatures?

Sure.Sure.


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