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villages07 02-08-2011 09:59 AM

More new houses near 466...
 
Yes, that was 466, not 466A.

I've seen passing reference in the paper about plans to amend boundaries of CDD9. CDD9 is generally south of 466A and the eastern half of new development between 466A and 44.

But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

These 62 acres will hold 335 homes. Infrastructure will be built this year. Does not include a detailed homesite or street plan.

This area was once rumored to be a hotel site. I guess, and this is only my opinion, the developer is finding it more expedient and perhaps more profitable to build and sell houses rather than more commercial development.

There was also a little blurb in the paper that Lady Lake town council rezoned a parcel across 466 from the LaZamora gate to be commercial...no tenants identified as yet but some discussion of convenience store or restaurant.

Here's a link to Sumter county commissioner meeting agenda:

http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/agendas.aspx?AGID=155

skyguy79 02-08-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villages07 (Post 329327)
But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

Is that where the circle on Morris is that has an exit to nowhere on the east side just before reaching 446 northbound? http://club4g.org/board/images/smili...smiley-003.gif

graciegirl 02-08-2011 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villages07 (Post 329327)
Yes, that was 466, not 466A.

I've seen passing reference in the paper about plans to amend boundaries of CDD9. CDD9 is generally south of 466A and the eastern half of new development between 466A and 44.

But, this amendment, to be voted on by Sumter County Commissioners tonight, amends CDD9 to include approx 62 acres just south of 466 and East of Morse Blvd (roughly across from Sante Fe shopping plaza and where cows now roam).

These 62 acres will hold 335 homes. Infrastructure will be built this year. Does not include a detailed homesite or street plan.

This area was once rumored to be a hotel site. I guess, and this is only my opinion, the developer is finding it more expedient and perhaps more profitable to build and sell houses rather than more commercial development.

There was also a little blurb in the paper that Lady Lake town council rezoned a parcel across 466 from the LaZamora gate to be commercial...no tenants identified as yet but some discussion of convenience store or restaurant.

Here's a link to Sumter county commissioner meeting agenda:

http://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/agendas.aspx?AGID=155

Premiers will be built there. They are selling new Premiers, (not so much the used ones) and they haven't got a new place to put the Premiers until the area south of 466A is finished.

Bill-n-Brillo 02-08-2011 10:39 AM

This is different than the Laurel Valley group of premiers that's west of Morse on the south side of 466, right? Where the streets are already getting put in, etc......

Bill

SALYBOW 02-08-2011 10:42 AM

Mission Hills
 
This sounds like it it off the roundabout at Morse where the street Mission Hills Starts and goes no where. Just My Guess

villages07 02-08-2011 10:49 AM

Gracie...this is different from the area halfway between Morse and BV (i.e. Laurel Valley).

This site is east of Morse on 466 (going towards Rolling Acres Rd)

335 homes on 62 acres implies designers or a mix of designer/villa/cottages.

Yes, this is the area just off that last roundabout on Morse before 466. It'll be interesting to see if that road is extended to the new homes, because, then it would cross the multimodal path and require a gate house vs putting the road access on 466.

graciegirl 02-08-2011 11:13 AM

Oops. Wasn't paying attention. I think we passed an area under construction there and I wondered if it was another builder. Are they moving dirt there?

Thanks for keeping us up 07!

Mikeod 02-08-2011 12:05 PM

Isn't that the area that a few years ago was getting soil dumped in to "restore" it to its prior natural state?

graciegirl 02-08-2011 12:10 PM

Village 07...Did you read this in the legal notices this morning.?

"The Village Center Community Development District intends to amend and restate Chapter 10 of its Rule To Bring About Deed Compliance in the town of Lady Lake portion of the Villagage. ("Rule") and impose fines for violation therof. Per Section 190.012(4((a), Florida Statutes, the District has been granted the authority to adopt rules necessary for the District to enforce certain existing deed restrictions pertaining to the external use and appearance of real property.....etc...."

What do you think that means?

Bogie Shooter 02-08-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 329366)
Village 07...Did you read this in the legal notices this morning.?

"The Village Center Community Development District intends to amend and restate Chapter 10 of its Rule To Bring About Deed Compliance in the town of Lady Lake portion of the Villagage. ("Rule") and impose fines for violation therof. Per Section 190.012(4((a), Florida Statutes, the District has been granted the authority to adopt rules necessary for the District to enforce certain existing deed restrictions pertaining to the external use and appearance of real property.....etc...."

What do you think that means?

The deed restrictions will now be enforced by the VCCDD.

iaudit 02-08-2011 08:16 PM

I predict that the Polo Grounds and surrounding area will eventually be the location of another village after build out and when the developer moves on to Texas.

ricthemic 02-08-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 329461)
I predict that the Polo Grounds and surrounding area will eventually be the location of another village after build out and when the developer moves on to Texas.

I am probably missing something. Does the above post and others mean the area north of 466 and east of Polo Ridge?

graciegirl 02-08-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 329385)
The deed restrictions will now be enforced by the VCCDD.

You mean they will have to remove the dog statues that are um...wetting on the fire hydrant?

iaudit 02-08-2011 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricthemic (Post 329465)
I am probably missing something. Does the above post and others mean the area north of 466 and east of Polo Ridge?

The original post refers to something that is going to actually happen. If you are heading north on Morse Blvd. leaving Sumter Landing, it is the area to your right and across the street (south) from the Church located on Rt. 466.

My statement about the Polo Grounds area is just a prediction on my part that the developer will fill in open areas after final build out. If you think it is tough to get a tee time for a group now, wait until after final build out. When he moves on to Texas for his next development, there will be no need for the Polo Grounds, which I am sure is not used enough to support itself.

Pturner 02-08-2011 10:06 PM

V07,
Thanks for the information. The county commission resolution to approve the change is amusingly uninformative as to why it was requested. The resolution states (I added the bold):

WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners established the Village Community Development District No. 9 (“District”) by Ordinance 04-37 and amended the District by Ordinance 2010-08; and
WHEREAS, in the process of going forward with development activities it has come to the attention of the developer that additional changes are necessary in the boundary and to add 62.09acres.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Board of County Commissioners of Sumter County...

"It has come to the attention of the developer that additional changes are necessary"? :mornincoffee:

Um... Translation
Gary to Sumter County: :spoken:

Hawkwind 02-09-2011 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 329470)

My statement about the Polo Grounds area is just a prediction on my part that the developer will fill in open areas after final build out. If you think it is tough to get a tee time for a group now, wait until after final build out. When he moves on to Texas for his next development, there will be no need for the Polo Grounds, which I am sure is not used enough to support itself.

The land east of the polo grounds is not owned by the developer as far as I can tell from looking at the county web site. The polo grounds also show up as a drive in theater is you look at the owner information.

graciegirl 02-09-2011 08:21 AM

I wonder if

the residents could vote on the issue...

IF the area now used as a Polo Field would remain if the choice was;

A. The current use, A Polo Field and gathering place.
B. An indoor workout area and indoor pool.

Just thought I'd start something...:D

73Goat 02-09-2011 11:17 AM

Any guesses as to how long it would be before TV would actually offer homes for sale in that area? It looks to be quite a ways off to me.

How fast do they put infrastructure in and develop lots in this area?

In another life I was a builder in Texas and the development laws were very builder 'friendly'. We could go from raw dirt (like farmland) to infrastructure (streets, sewers, utilities) and would be selling homes in 6 months. In the DC area it takes years to do the same because of all the regulations and development laws.

Bill-n-Brillo 02-09-2011 11:22 AM

73goat - In looking through some of the detail in the docs for their meeting last night, it was noted that the various pieces of the infrastructure (site prep, drainage, sewers, water, etc.) would be done in "2011". Literally, that was the timeframe noted for each individual part of the breakdown. Pretty open-ended. I'd guess it'll be next year sometime before any houses start popping up there.

Bill

zcaveman 02-09-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 329467)
You mean they will have to remove the dog statues that are um...wetting on the fire hydrant?

No - it means that they are having a meeting to finalize the fine structure for that district. If you look in today's paper they are doing that for all of the districts on the north side.

They are not going to change the current deed restrictions to include no lawn ornaments in places that can have lawn ornaments.

But they will now issue monetary fines for violations of the deed restrictions that are in effect.

These monetary fines are listed at www.districtgov.org:

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...standards.aspx

Hope this helps.

Z

Chopper 02-09-2011 12:23 PM

If you look through those agenda documents from last night's meeting (pages 271 - 279), you will also see preliminary plans for a two-story Villages Assisted Living Facility that is to be built north of County Road 466A in the area that is designated as Flagler Plaza on The Villages street map.

golf2140 02-09-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 329461)
I predict that the Polo Grounds and surrounding area will eventually be the location of another village after build out and when the developer moves on to Texas.

The family has been building TV for 40 to 50 years. They have never torn down a facility to build more homes. :boom:

barb1191 02-09-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 329516)
I wonder if

the residents could vote on the issue...

IF the area now used as a Polo Field would remain if the choice was;

A. The current use, A Polo Field and gathering place.
B. An indoor workout area and indoor pool.

Just thought I'd start something...:D

"B" sounds good to me, GG.....b

English Ivy 02-09-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopper (Post 329569)
If you look through those agenda documents from last night's meeting (pages 271 - 279), you will also see preliminary plans for a two-story Villages Assisted Living Facility that is to be built north of County Road 466A in the area that is designated as Flagler Plaza on The Villages street map.

I wonder if the people in the homes in Duval that back up to Flagler Plaza know what's coming in their backyards? There is a concrete wall that separates the area but it's sure not going to hide a two story building.

Also thought it was interesting that when I "Googled" the name of the developer for this project "GTMJ Investment Group", guess where it led me back to ... 1020 Lake Sumter Landing The Villages FL, the address for the developer and all their aliases.

Chopper 02-09-2011 07:43 PM

The Villages Polo Club is no longer owned by the developer so I don't think it will ever turn into a residential area. It was sold last year, but I can't remember the name of the new owner.

swrinfla 02-09-2011 07:59 PM

You know what bothers me?

I am really concerned that any posts here will end up being totally blown away because of unnecessarily strict comments!

True, it's a matter of age, I'm afraid!!!!!!

SWR
:beer3:

Larry Wilson 02-09-2011 09:09 PM

The way I understand it, this is private property and not part of The Villages or our amenities. Yes, a couple years ago, they got rid of all the locals and put the Polo in the hands of a professional management company to make money. The management did not do well. I could write a book on what really happened. The Morse family did not do right by many people. But that is another whole story. ( No, I will not debate this statement...too complicated, people lost their jobs, promises were broken) So now they have moved a great guy and professional Polo player into managing their Polo seasons. He is doing a great job and numbers are back up.
I seriously doubt if they would ever build on the Polo fields as these fields are very expensive to build and many family members and friends enjoy playing Polo. Plus they are part of the family compound with beautiful ranches, beautiful homes and 4 more practice Polo fields.
So folks, that's my understanding and back to basketball. Gotta watch Duke and UNC.

Chopper 02-09-2011 09:20 PM

Larry,

Thanks for setting the record straight regarding the Polo Club. It obviously was just a management change and not a change in ownership. But, I agree that it will probably never be turned in to a residential area.

Pturner 02-09-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swrinfla (Post 329676)
You know what bothers me?

I am really concerned that any posts here will end up being totally blown away because of unnecessarily strict comments!

True, it's a matter of age, I'm afraid!!!!!!

SWR
:beer3:

Hi Swrinfla,
I don't understand your meaning. But I always respect your opinions and usually agree. Would you mind rephrasing?

graciegirl 02-09-2011 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swrinfla (Post 329676)
You know what bothers me?

I am really concerned that any posts here will end up being totally blown away because of unnecessarily strict comments!

True, it's a matter of age, I'm afraid!!!!!!

SWR
:beer3:

Dear SWR....Like P, (and I do TRY to be like P,) Like P, I don't understand either and also like her, I always enjoy and take to heart what you say.

Could you tell us more?

Army Guy 02-10-2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by English Ivy (Post 329646)
I wonder if the people in the homes in Duval that back up to Flagler Plaza know what's coming in their backyards? There is a concrete wall that separates the area but it's sure not going to hide a two story building.

Also thought it was interesting that when I "Googled" the name of the developer for this project "GTMJ Investment Group", guess where it led me back to ... 1020 Lake Sumter Landing The Villages FL, the address for the developer and all their aliases.

Another reason why when we were looking to buy, we only wanted to look at villas with established things already built around it. No surprises that way!

Army Guy

Chopper 02-10-2011 09:30 AM

Since Flagler Plaza was to be a commercial development, probably with several stores, I would think that the Villages Assisted Living Facility would be preferable. There should be a lot less noise and automobile activity in the area. I think if our home backed up to that wall, I would prefer the assisted living facility.

If you look at the preliminary plans for the assisted living facility, there is still a large area of Flagler Plaza to be developed. Maybe it will turn out be be used for some additional medical facilities such as doctor offices. Only time will tell.

spk7951 02-10-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopper (Post 329747)
Since Flagler Plaza was to be a commercial development, probably with several stores, I would think that the Villages Assisted Living Facility would be preferable. There should be a lot less noise and automobile activity in the area. I think if our home backed up to that wall, I would prefer the assisted living facility.

If you look at the preliminary plans for the assisted living facility, there is still a large area of Flagler Plaza to be developed. Maybe it will turn out be be used for some additional medical facilities such as doctor offices. Only time will tell.

When we first looked at buying in that area we were told that parcel was slated for "professional offices" and not commercial. But the county currently shows it with a use description of "Vacant Residential".

Army Guy 02-10-2011 10:23 AM

Chopper, I understand but, there is a big downside to that also. They just built a new Assisted Living not far from our Alabama home, and the people around it hate it! First, all the high intensity lights outside and around in the parking lot. Night is now day for them, and the worst is the increase in ambulance noise.

Army Guy

Chopper 02-10-2011 10:46 AM

Army Guy,

I never thought about about the ambulance noise. That could get to be a bit annoying. As for the lights, I thought any commercial or professional plaza would also have a lot of lighting. Maybe since the entrance is under a canopy in the front, they will not have a lot of intrusive lights toward the rear of the facility. At least the traffic should be less, especially in the evening hours.

Bogie Shooter 02-10-2011 10:54 AM

Ambulance noise should not be that significant of an issue, we all hear sirens night and day.

bike42 02-10-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Army Guy (Post 329773)
They just built a new Assisted Living not far from our Alabama home, and the people around it hate it! First, all the high intensity lights outside and around in the parking lot. Night is now day for them, and the worst is the increase in ambulance noise.

For The Villages-style assisted living facility, go and take a look at Homewood/Freedom Pointe (across from the hospital, between the nursing care facility and the independent living apartments.) It is beautiful, quiet, with the same trees and landscaping we expect everywhere in TV, no bright lights and when ambulances need to come, they do not use sirens.

Don't be a NIMBY -- most of us will need assisted living someday.

Army Guy 02-22-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bike42 (Post 329909)
For The Villages-style assisted living facility, go and take a look at Homewood/Freedom Pointe (across from the hospital, between the nursing care facility and the independent living apartments.) It is beautiful, quiet, with the same trees and landscaping we expect everywhere in TV, no bright lights and when ambulances need to come, they do not use sirens.

Don't be a NIMBY -- most of us will need assisted living someday.

AGREE!

Army Guy

skip0358 02-22-2011 04:03 PM

More Houses???
 
Was up on Morse Blvd by Hacienda Hills Country Club the other day. Noticed survey work going on in the big empty field accross from HHH country club. Don't know but maybe more homes going in. That's another large empty parcel.

swimdawg 02-22-2011 04:22 PM

Indoor pool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 329516)
I wonder if

the residents could vote on the issue...

IF the area now used as a Polo Field would remain if the choice was;

A. The current use, A Polo Field and gathering place.
B. An indoor workout area and indoor pool.

Just thought I'd start something...:D

Bring on that indoor pool. The sooner the better! :wave:


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