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Ecuadog 06-18-2025 09:50 AM

Anti-tourism Protests
 
Have the recent anti-tourism protests made you rethink your travel plans?

ABCnews... click here.

Smalley 06-18-2025 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2439825)
Have the recent anti-tourism protests made you rethink your travel plans?

ABCnews... click here.

It's no fun to be in an overtouristed city. The one we experienced was Rome. The crowds are everywhere and it downgrades your enjoyment of the sights and the place. Best bet is to go off season or to choose a smaller city or town that can be equally charming and beautiful.

Pugchief 06-18-2025 04:13 PM

Europeans have never been fond of Americans (except when we were saving their butts during WW2). This is just an escalation of global unrest that is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If you want to go to Europe, you should go now before it gets even crazier.

IMO/YMMV

Caymus 06-18-2025 04:47 PM

I think it's funny when they shoot tourists with water pistols.

tophcfa 06-18-2025 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2439825)
Have the recent anti-tourism protests made you rethink your travel plans?

ABCnews... click here.

Nope, summer travel plans to New Hampshire, Maine, Cape Cod, the Villages, and Road Island are intact. Fall plans to New Hampshire and our Villages home are a go. And as always, already looking forward to spending another winter and early spring at our Villages home.

CFrance 06-18-2025 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalley (Post 2439831)
It's no fun to be in an overtouristed city. The one we experienced was Rome. The crowds are everywhere and it downgrades your enjoyment of the sights and the place. Best bet is to go off season or to choose a smaller city or town that can be equally charming and beautiful.

This is the answer. We never hit the big cities. There are so many charming villages and quiet countries to enjoy. They can be found by googling Don't go here; go there, plus the name of a country.

We get all the crowds we need in the winter season in TV.

Ecuadog, good to see your former face back!

8v92ta 06-19-2025 05:08 AM

We were in Barcelona last October for 2 days before our transatlantic cruise and never had a problem. From the taxi driver to the hotel where we stayed everyone was friendly. From what I gather the rental properties and air b and B's are driving up rental and housing costs. Would definitely go back again with no worries.

asianthree 06-19-2025 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2439889)
This is the answer. We never hit the big cities. There are so many charming villages and quiet countries to enjoy. They can be found by googling Don't go here; go there, plus the name of a country.

We get all the crowds we need in the winter season in TV.

Ecuadog, good to see your former face back!

Completely agree when to visit. Our families all over Europe give us dates for the best times to visit, during off season.
Ecuador your former face not my favorite :D

Kelevision 06-19-2025 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2439889)
This is the answer. We never hit the big cities. There are so many charming villages and quiet countries to enjoy. They can be found by googling Don't go here; go there, plus the name of a country.

We get all the crowds we need in the winter season in TV.

Ecuadog, good to see your former face back!

And I’ll only go to big cities. I prefer cities in general. One of my unexpected favorites being Istanbul. I was in Barcelona a couple of years ago and I think a main reason lots of these cities don’t want tourists is that they’re also cruise ports. I don’t think the general public understands how many people flood the streets when just one ship docks, much less several in a day. But that goes against what they’re complaining about which is cost of living/rentals. Do people still even use airbnb for a few nights? I know I don’t. It’s kind of like the amount of Villages homes purchased to be only rentals…

RedFoxRick 06-19-2025 05:53 AM

No Issues Other than Barcelona
 
We have been in France and Belgium for 6 Weeks and have encountered only hospitality from everyone. There is no dislike for courteous Americans. They are truly friendly and helpful to us. Unfortunately, many we spoke with have decided not to visit the USA for a couple of years and are really scared to do so as a non-citizen. It really is a shame. Also - we visited Normandy and it was truly amazing how the US, Brits and Canadians worked together to push the Germans out of France - it was a team effort for sure. However, a bit of a history lesson, it actually was the Russians at the Battle of Stalingrad that “saved their butts”, as the Battle of Stalingrad was truly the turning point for the war in the European theatre.

Happydaz 06-19-2025 06:06 AM

In Spain as well as other favorite tourist destinations, Airbnb and other short term rentals have dramatically affected the real estate markets in these crowded areas. Local residents get priced out of the market due to investors buying up homes in desirable areas and renting them out to tourists. Barcelona is so fed up with this that they are banning all Airbnb and other short term rentals by 2028. They believe that residents deserve the chance to own their own home in the area they grew up in and not get priced out of the market by real estate investors.

vdelaglio 06-19-2025 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2439825)
Have the recent anti-tourism protests made you rethink your travel plans?

ABCnews... click here.

We are going to The Villages for a month.

Janie123 06-19-2025 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFoxRick (Post 2439914)
We have been in France and Belgium for 6 Weeks and have encountered only hospitality from everyone. There is no dislike for courteous Americans. They are truly friendly and helpful to us. Unfortunately, many we spoke with have decided not to visit the USA for a couple of years and are really scared to do so as a non-citizen. It really is a shame. Also - we visited Normandy and it was truly amazing how the US, Brits and Canadians worked together to push the Germans out of France - it was a team effort for sure. However, a bit of a history lesson, it actually was the Russians at the Battle of Stalingrad that “saved their butts”, as the Battle of Stalingrad was truly the turning point for the war in the European theatre.

We too have been to Europe recently. Just this past year, Nice, Milan, and Naples with day trips to Como, Florence and Venice. As long as you appreciate their culture and don’t act like an A$$, everyone was just wonderful. Don’t complain about paying to use the public toilet either. Even in Naples, ran into a mom and pop pizza joint, no English spoken there but the experience was fun and BTW, pizza was great.

I don’t understand why they don’t want to come to US because of being non-citizen… just bring a passport and don’t over stay. If EU passport, no visa required and they can stay for 90 days, with a B-2 visa, 6 months. Sounds like someone has received some really fake news there.

As of 2025, citizens of 41 countries can travel to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) using an ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization). This allows for tourism, business, or transit visits of up to 90 days without a visa.

ithos 06-19-2025 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFoxRick (Post 2439914)
We have been in France and Belgium for 6 Weeks and have encountered only hospitality from everyone. There is no dislike for courteous Americans. They are truly friendly and helpful to us. Unfortunately, many we spoke with have decided not to visit the USA for a couple of years and are really scared to do so as a non-citizen. It really is a shame. Also - we visited Normandy and it was truly amazing how the US, Brits and Canadians worked together to push the Germans out of France - it was a team effort for sure. However, a bit of a history lesson, it actually was the Russians at the Battle of Stalingrad that “saved their butts”, as the Battle of Stalingrad was truly the turning point for the war in the European theatre.

Actually it was US manufacturing and the Lend-Lease Act (1941) that saved Stalin from total defeat. Yes, many US and other western allied soldiers lives were saved but about 650 million people outside of Russia had to live under communism for several decades.

Great Leap Forward (1958–1962)
Aimed to rapidly industrialize China and collectivize agriculture
Led to the worst famine in human history
Estimated deaths: 15–45 million


But it is ironic that several decades later it was the West's foolish obsession of expanding NATO to the borders of Russia that caused the present day war in Ukraine. Some lessons are never learned.

nn0wheremann 06-19-2025 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2439825)
Have the recent anti-tourism protests made you rethink your travel plans?

ABCnews... click here.

Rome was terribly overcrowded this year. Jubilee year, Conclave, and war in the Holy Land make Italy, and supposedly Spain and France very much overwhelmed by tourists and pilgrims this year.

NoMo50 06-19-2025 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFoxRick (Post 2439914)
However, a bit of a history lesson, it actually was the Russians at the Battle of Stalingrad that “saved their butts”, as the Battle of Stalingrad was truly the turning point for the war in the European theatre.

I must respectfully disagree. True...Hitler's obsession with pressing the eastern front was a huge strategic error, and eventually diminished Germany's ability to prosecute the war. However, the Soviet's eventual push into Germany and Poland had little to do with saving anyone. Not Sure? Ask anyone who spent decades under the iron boot in USSR satellite states.

In contrast, the western allies truly liberated France and the Low Countries following the D-Day invasion, and did so without an eye toward territorial acquisition. Even today in France (anywhere except Paris), you will find people who still very much appreciate the fact they are not speaking German.

kendi 06-19-2025 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2439869)
Europeans have never been fond of Americans (except when we were saving their butts during WW2). This is just an escalation of global unrest that is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If you want to go to Europe, you should go now before it gets even crazier.

IMO/YMMV

We have always been warmly welcomed by the Europeans

Regorp 06-19-2025 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2439825)
Have the recent anti-tourism protests made you rethink your travel plans?

ABCnews... click here.

No. Still not planning to travel.

airstreamingypsy 06-19-2025 08:26 AM

I suspect Europeans feel the same way about tourists, as we do about snowbirds. During tourist season, their roads, restaurants, sidewalks and shops are all overcrowded. I went to Europe in the 70s, the summer of the youth fares. 1,000s of us, in our early 20s went. You could fly into any city, and fly out of any city for 199.00 from NYC. By August, it seems Londoners had had enough. They are so rude, and ugly, I called the airline and said get me out of here. That said, people in France, Italy and Switzerland couldn't have been nicer.

dtennent 06-19-2025 09:45 AM

Having traveled overseas for both business and pleasure for 40 years, I have found people everywhere to be warm and welcoming as long as you avoid the major tourist areas. For example, if you are in Paris and visit the Champs-Elysees, you will find abrupt and rather rude behavior. (Not too different from parts of NYC.) However, if you go to a small restaurant off the beaten track, you will be rewarded with great service and excellent food. We will continue to travel as long as we are able, obviously avoiding active war zones.

Spartan86 06-19-2025 09:57 AM

No change to our plans. I travel extensively for work and my wife and I have been traveling much more the last few years. Like just about anywhere, going in with a friendly, unassuming demeanor, smiling and saying please takes you a long way. I cannot say we have been treated poorly anywhere based on being obviously American.

Packer Fan 06-19-2025 11:33 AM

You have never been to Europe for any length of time have you? I have spent a lot of time in Europe and as far as I have seen, they love Americans. Have literally never had a negative experience with a European past them smoking in restaurants which drives me crazy but is their way. Btw, have been in Spain and Portugal for the past 2 weeks, writing this from Madrid. Have felt nothing but love here. Helps I speak some Spanish and always try to learn the common words in any language I visit.

Packer Fan 06-19-2025 11:39 AM

Nothing in Lisbon, Porto Pinhao, A Caruna, Santiago de Compostela, or Madrid so far. Saville, Granada, Barcelona, and Valencia coming up, will let you know. Its a thing called fake news and why I don't watch ABC or any of them. Actually there have been some water spraying going on on Myorka, but our news media is just looking to for clicks and to spread lies. Just ignore it and plan your trip.

Runway48 06-19-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 2440020)
Nothing in Lisbon, Porto Pinhao, A Caruna, Santiago de Compostela, or Madrid so far. Saville, Granada, Barcelona, and Valencia coming up, will let you know. Its a thing called fake news and why I don't watch ABC or any of them. Actually there have been some water spraying going on on Myorka, but our news media is just looking to for clicks and to spread lies. Just ignore it and plan your trip.

We've done a fair amount of cruising and all of our interactions with Europeans have been positive (though the crowds in Rome are ridiculous and zippered pockets are recommended). We find Europeans are rightfully proud of their countries and appreciate it when you make the effort to respect and understand their cultures. The problem with cruising is that touring is largely limited to port cities. We've done land tours of Ireland and just recently returned from one in the west covering the major sites from Rapid City SD to Jackson Hole WY. We would like to do another land tour in Europe. From your description, it sounds like you are on a tour. Is this a self-constructed tour or are you traveling with a tour company? If you are using a company, is it one you would recommend?

jimjamuser 06-19-2025 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2439869)
Europeans have never been fond of Americans (except when we were saving their butts during WW2). This is just an escalation of global unrest that is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If you want to go to Europe, you should go now before it gets even crazier.

IMO/YMMV

Merely one of the downsides of the world population increase in the last 15 years. NY City has a vehicle problem in its downtown area that it TRIED to solve by charging vehicles a fee (congestion pricing). Florida has situations in the winter where they have more people than the current roads can handle. Those protests in Europe about foreign tourists are basically about OVERCROWDING.

JoMar 06-19-2025 03:14 PM

Just returned from three weeks in the UK and France, no bad experiences, friendly and respectful people and a great time.


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