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Rainger99 07-04-2025 12:58 PM

I wish I had bought bitcoin back then!!
 
There are reports that an anonymous person who made a $7,800 investment in bitcoin in 2011 has just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years…

He’s now worth $1.1 BILLION.

At the start of 2011, a bitcoin was only $.30 and only reached the dollar mark in February 2011!! It is $109,000 today. I wish I had put $10 in bitcoin back then.

And can anyone explain it??

manaboutown 07-04-2025 01:13 PM

It the OP is alluding to another person Bill Miller has a similar story. Bill Miller: AMZN & Bitcoin Billionaire | A Simple Model

Arctic Fox 07-04-2025 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2443322)
There are reports that an anonymous person who made a $7,800 investment in bitcoin in 2011 has just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years…He’s now worth $1.1 BILLION. At the start of 2011, a bitcoin was only $.30 and only reached the dollar mark in February 2011!! It is $109,000 today. I wish I had put $10 in bitcoin back then. And can anyone explain it??

Sounds apocryphal to me: bought at the beginning; cashed out at the all-time-high. Any time an "investment" performs well there are reports of the few who, supposedly, made millions, but no mention of the many who bought high and sold low. Or the 99% of high-risk investments that disappear, worthless.

Stick with what you know, and sleep easy at night.

Malsua 07-04-2025 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2443322)
There are reports that an anonymous person who made a $7,800 investment in bitcoin in 2011 has just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years…

He’s now worth $1.1 BILLION.

At the start of 2011, a bitcoin was only $.30 and only reached the dollar mark in February 2011!! It is $109,000 today. I wish I had put $10 in bitcoin back then.

And can anyone explain it??

There's a few things that have happened to bitcoin since 2011.

The first being that bitcoin had numerous forks since then. Each one entitling the owner to equivalent in Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Diamond, Bitcoin SV. That will add some life changing amounts of money right there, but the granddaddy of BTC would be north of 2 billion.

Bitcoin will continue to rise. If you buy even a few hundred dollars worth now and hand it to your children or relatives, by the time they retire, it will likely have appreciated significantly.

It's now owned by all the major players in finance. It's not going away.

You don't have to buy whole coins, you buy fractional pieces called Satoshis. Right now you can buy 913 Satoshis for one US dollar.

In 10 years, it'll probably be about 91 Satoshis for 1 dollar.


I'm one of the founding members of the Crypto Currency Club in The Villages. We meet every Saturday morning virtually except for the first Saturday of the month because there is a club meeting at Ezell on that prior Thursday.

Rainger99 07-04-2025 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2443326)
Stick with what you know, and sleep easy at night.

If I had invested $10 back then, I could have slept easily at night! And I would be sleeping even better now!

Arctic Fox 07-04-2025 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2443333)
If I had invested $10 back then, I could have slept easily at night! And I would be sleeping even better now!

...but probably in some snooty gated community, not in The Villages, and you would have missed out on all of the friends you've made here :-)

Topspinmo 07-04-2025 02:49 PM

You could say same thing about Berkshire Hathaway, Toyota, and dozens others. The age old problem? Fore thought, and have money to make money. Majority didn’t have extra cash laying around to take gamble when they had mouths to feed and bills to pay. I wish I had brought gold Krugerrands in middle 70s when they was 100 dollars coin. But, being in military has trouble just surviving monthly bills .

RICH1 07-04-2025 03:08 PM

Bernie Madoff wished he thought of it first.. Somebody always get caught holding the bag. Buying an idea is Genius

Rwirish 07-05-2025 05:19 AM

As Warren Buffet has said many times stay away.

RoseyRed 07-05-2025 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2443327)
There's a few things that have happened to bitcoin since 2011.

The first being that bitcoin had numerous forks since then. Each one entitling the owner to equivalent in Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Diamond, Bitcoin SV. That will add some life changing amounts of money right there, but the granddaddy of BTC would be north of 2 billion.

Bitcoin will continue to rise. If you buy even a few hundred dollars worth now and hand it to your children or relatives, by the time they retire, it will likely have appreciated significantly.

It's now owned by all the major players in finance. It's not going away.

You don't have to buy whole coins, you buy fractional pieces called Satoshis. Right now you can buy 913 Satoshis for one US dollar.

In 10 years, it'll probably be about 91 Satoshis for 1 dollar.


I'm one of the founding members of the Crypto Currency Club in The Villages. We meet every Saturday morning virtually except for the first Saturday of the month because there is a club meeting at Ezell on that prior Thursday.

how can I get the details of the Saturday morning virtual meeting?

SaucyJim 07-05-2025 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2443326)
Sounds apocryphal to me: bought at the beginning; cashed out at the all-time-high. Any time an "investment" performs well there are reports of the few who, supposedly, made millions, but no mention of the many who bought high and sold low. Or the 99% of high-risk investments that disappear, worthless.

Stick with what you know, and sleep easy at night.

Maybe he knew the principles behind bitcoin. If I stuck with what in knew, which was dollar cost averaging, I’d not be generating income today trading weekly put spreads.

START with what you know, LEARN, & GROW. That’s my motto.

SaucyJim 07-05-2025 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2443338)
...but probably in some snooty gated community, not in The Villages, and you would have missed out on all of the friends you've made here :-)

Hmm. To some, we live in a snooty, gated community.

Just a thought.

SaucyJim 07-05-2025 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2443410)
As Warren Buffet has said many times stay away.

The major portion of my portfolio is in income-producing stocks, while a very small portion (2% or less) gets thrown into high-risk, most-likely-to-fail ventures. Simply staying away seems short-sighted.

But I am not claiming to know more than Master Buffett.

SaucyJim 07-05-2025 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RoseyRed (Post 2443412)
how can I get the details of the Saturday morning virtual meeting?

Ditto. I’ll search the Events page and see what I can see.

Cuervo 07-05-2025 06:48 AM

I know lots of people made a lot of money and lots of people also lost a lot of money.
I'm one of those who believe it the old idiom, "If it sounds too good to be true it usually is".
To me this sounds like a pyramid scheme on steroids.
Though the dollar does not have the supporting value it once had, it still does have value.
Bitcoin's value as I understand it is based on demand, which means if the demand diminishes so does the value.

USN-Retired 07-05-2025 07:00 AM

Amen!

opinionist 07-05-2025 07:25 AM

Hindsight always tells you the things that could have been. I wish the people who invest in BTC well, but I have never seen the tangible value that would make me want to put my savings there. I can see the value of cryptocurrency coins as a tool for transferring money, and the most useful ones will have the most significant value. There is no limit to the number of cryptocurrencies, so competition is a risk when a better tool becomes available.

Chickx729 07-05-2025 08:15 AM

Boat
 
Easiest way to explain. You missed the boat...as did I
QUOTE=Rainger99;2443322]There are reports that an anonymous person who made a $7,800 investment in bitcoin in 2011 has just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years…

He’s now worth $1.1 BILLION.

At the start of 2011, a bitcoin was only $.30 and only reached the dollar mark in February 2011!! It is $109,000 today. I wish I had put $10 in bitcoin back then.

And can anyone explain it??[/QUOTE]

JayBee 07-05-2025 08:31 AM

bitcoin
 
Indeed. Warren Buffet referred to bitcoin as rat poison

Topspinmo 07-05-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2443418)
Hmm. To some, we live in a snooty, gated community.

Just a thought.

No just lot of snoots….:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Topspinmo 07-05-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chickx729 (Post 2443486)
Easiest way to explain. You missed the boat...as did I
QUOTE=Rainger99;2443322]There are reports that an anonymous person who made a $7,800 investment in bitcoin in 2011 has just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years…

He’s now worth $1.1 BILLION.

At the start of 2011, a bitcoin was only $.30 and only reached the dollar mark in February 2011!! It is $109,000 today. I wish I had put $10 in bitcoin back then.

And can anyone explain it??

[/QUOTE]

If I was that dud I cash in. :thumbup:

justjim 07-05-2025 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2443322)
There are reports that an anonymous person who made a $7,800 investment in bitcoin in 2011 has just touched their wallet for the first time in 14 years…

He’s now worth $1.1 BILLION.

At the start of 2011, a bitcoin was only $.30 and only reached the dollar mark in February 2011!! It is $109,000 today. I wish I had put $10 in bitcoin back then.

And can anyone explain it??

There “was/is” a company that sold soap and then some other things that was very popular 35 years or so ago in its prime. Some made so much money that they built huge mansions and stadiums. You could call it a pyramid scheme or maybe Ponzi scheme. Whatever those that get in early make lots of money but those subsequent that get in not so much. Buffet doesn’t care for bitcoin and he is a much better investor than me. I will pass too.

Aces4 07-05-2025 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 2443494)
Indeed. Warren Buffet referred to bitcoin as rat poison

I would think that Warren Buffet feels anything that pulls money away from the stock market is rat poison. I'll bet he also never invested in Bitcoin and missed the boat, that has to burn a little.

justjim 07-05-2025 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2443433)
I know lots of people made a lot of money and lots of people also lost a lot of money.
I'm one of those who believe it the old idiom, "If it sounds too good to be true it usually is".
To me this sounds like a pyramid scheme on steroids.
Though the dollar does not have the supporting value it once had, it still does have value.
Bitcoin's value as I understand it is based on demand, which means if the demand diminishes so does the value.

You are spot on.

Boffin 07-05-2025 10:51 AM

Could have, would have, should have. 20/20 hind sight.

skarra 07-05-2025 05:28 PM

“There are reports” and “anonymous person” are tricks politicians use to push lies.

Don’t fall for it.

justjim 07-05-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2443617)
“There are reports” and “anonymous person” are tricks politicians use to push lies.

Don’t fall for it.

And that has something to do with bitcoin?

SoCalGal 07-06-2025 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2443433)
To me this sounds like a pyramid scheme on steroids. Though the dollar does not have the supporting value it once had, it still does have value. Bitcoin's value is based on demand, which means if the demand diminishes so does the value.

Exactly right.

jimbomaybe 07-06-2025 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2443560)
I would think that Warren Buffet feels anything that pulls money away from the stock market is rat poison. I'll bet he also never invested in Bitcoin and missed the boat, that has to burn a little.

Perhaps his distain for bitcoin has something to do with its "value" , it has no value other than what is driven by the greed/fear factor, produces nothing. My credentials ,, I took a very small position in TESLA, not much more than an IPO, I was up 125%, thinking to add substantially, but then thinking you never go broke taking a profit, sold out, that's why my advice is free.

Rainger99 07-06-2025 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2443433)
Bitcoin's value as I understand it is based on demand, which means if the demand diminishes so does the value.

Isn’t that true for everything?
Gold, Amazon stock, Villages houses - new and pre-owned!

Cuervo 07-06-2025 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2443712)
Isn’t that true for everything?
Gold, Amazon stock, Villages houses - new and pre-owned!

No there are actually assets supporting these investments, if the price of gold, Villages home might take a downturn you still have tangible assets. If Amazon goes bankrupt lawsuits will follow and even though you will not get full value of your investment the odds, are you will get something. What do you get if bitcoin goes bust?

Aces4 07-06-2025 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2443747)
No there are actually assets supporting these investments, if the price of gold, Villages home might take a downturn you still have tangible assets. If Amazon goes bankrupt lawsuits will follow and even though you will not get full value of your investment the odds, are you will get something. What do you get if bitcoin goes bust?

The same thing you'll get if the dollar goes bust. Remember the stories of the Great Depression and we're not all that far from it with the debt that has been accrued over the years.:read:

Lanieb 07-06-2025 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 2443327)
There's a few things that have happened to bitcoin since 2011.

The first being that bitcoin had numerous forks since then. Each one entitling the owner to equivalent in Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Diamond, Bitcoin SV. That will add some life changing amounts of money right there, but the granddaddy of BTC would be north of 2 billion.

Bitcoin will continue to rise. If you buy even a few hundred dollars worth now and hand it to your children or relatives, by the time they retire, it will likely have appreciated significantly.

It's now owned by all the major players in finance. It's not going away.

You don't have to buy whole coins, you buy fractional pieces called Satoshis. Right now you can buy 913 Satoshis for one US dollar.

In 10 years, it'll probably be about 91 Satoshis for 1 dollar.


I'm one of the founding members of the Crypto Currency Club in The Villages. We meet every Saturday morning virtually except for the first Saturday of the month because there is a club meeting at Ezell on that prior Thursday.

I would like to join your next meeting please, how do I do that?
Thanks,
Lanie

Aces4 07-06-2025 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2443643)
Perhaps his distain for bitcoin has something to do with its "value" , it has no value other than what is driven by the greed/fear factor, produces nothing. My credentials ,, I took a very small position in TESLA, not much more than an IPO, I was up 125%, thinking to add substantially, but then thinking you never go broke taking a profit, sold out, that's why my advice is free.

Yup, Bitcoin has the same value as the dollar bill, nil. And don't tell me the government stands behind the dollar because that's worthless when the coffers are empty, huge debt and financial system is running on fumes.

Larryandlinda 07-06-2025 10:40 AM

You wake up, It’s April 1976….
No mobile phones. internet on the horizon….
What could you do?
Apple cofounder Ronald Wayne sold his 10% stake for $800 in 1976—today it’d be worth up to $300 billion

jimbomaybe 07-06-2025 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2443759)
Yup, Bitcoin has the same value as the dollar bill, nil. And don't tell me the government stands behind the dollar because that's worthless when the coffers are empty, huge debt and financial system is running on fumes.

The government stands behind the dollar, the credibility of both are dependent on the strength of the US economy is it not? certainly the expanding debt hinders both the dollar and the government's ability to deal with economy

Bwanajim 07-06-2025 04:08 PM

My CPA's son told me he bought some at $300 and told me to buy some at $3000 a coin. I told him he was out of his mind. Oh well. I was just never comfortable with owning something that is not tangible. How do you redeem it for cash if you want

Rainger99 07-06-2025 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwanajim (Post 2443812)
My CPA's son told me he bought some at $300 and told me to buy some at $3000 a coin. I told him he was out of his mind. Oh well. I was just never comfortable with owning something that is not tangible. How do you redeem it for cash if you want

Hopefully someone from the Crypto Currency Club can answer that.

Aces4 07-06-2025 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2443806)
The government stands behind the dollar, the credibility of both are dependent on the strength of the US economy is it not? certainly the expanding debt hinders both the dollar and the government's ability to deal with economy

So they just print more more worthless dollars. The belief in the dollar is all in our heads.:MOJE_whot: Scary, isn't it?

MorTech 07-06-2025 10:40 PM

Word!

"I should have bought much more Bitcoin" is every thinking man's slogan :)
Made huge money on AMZN and Bitcoin.
Still huge money to be made on Bitcoin and Bitcoin treasury companies.

"The government stands behind the dollar" - And prints them worth less as it steals everything from everyone over time.
"2% inflation target" means they steal half of everything from you every 35 years.


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