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Rainger99 08-16-2025 11:56 AM

Hurricane Erin is Category 5
 
Erin is only the fifth Category 5 hurricane on record to form this early in the hurricane season and the only Category 5 observed outside the Gulf or Caribbean this early in the year.

Taltarzac725 08-16-2025 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2454005)
Erin is only the fifth Category 5 hurricane on record to form this early in the hurricane season and the only Category 5 observed outside the Gulf or Caribbean this early in the year.

Hopefully Mother Nature will turn it into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

Arctic Fox 08-16-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2454006)
Hopefully Mother Nature will turn it into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

...giving Bermuda a wide berth

At the rate it's increasing they may have to initiate the long-promised "Cat 6"

Battlebasset 08-16-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2454005)
Erin is only the fifth Category 5 hurricane on record to form this early in the hurricane season and the only Category 5 observed outside the Gulf or Caribbean this early in the year.

Heading out into the Atlantic right now. No worries.

golfing eagles 08-16-2025 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2454005)
Erin is only the fifth Category 5 hurricane on record to form this early in the hurricane season and the only Category 5 observed outside the Gulf or Caribbean this early in the year.

That we know of. Prior to weather satellites, we would have very little idea.

tophcfa 08-16-2025 01:12 PM

Gonna be some good body surfing on the Cape Cod beaches around next Thursday, surfs up : )

biker1 08-16-2025 01:47 PM

What is more interesting to watch is the circulation NCEP's global model is putting into the Gulf in 10 days. It is too far out in time to take seriously but I will be watching each model cycle.

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2454005)
Erin is only the fifth Category 5 hurricane on record to form this early in the hurricane season and the only Category 5 observed outside the Gulf or Caribbean this early in the year.


Howdy 08-16-2025 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2454026)
What is more interesting to watch is the circulation NCEP's global model is putting into the Gulf in 10 days. It is too far out in time to take seriously but I will be watching each model cycle.

The local Weather TV Stations Forecasters get all excited whenever a storm is a " Possibility ",only because most days are routinely the same day in & day out.
They exaggerate & get all worked up, to the point of Celebrating on the 5% or less possibility of it really happening, I find it amusing.:clap2:

biker1 08-16-2025 02:41 PM

The general public should start paying attention 4 days out.

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Originally Posted by Howdy (Post 2454033)
The local Weather TV Stations Forecasters get all excited whenever a storm is a " Possibility ",only because most days are routinely the same day in & day out.
They exaggerate & get all worked up, to the point of Celebrating on the 5% or less possibility of it really happening, I find it amusing.:clap2:


Stu from NYC 08-16-2025 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Howdy (Post 2454033)
The local Weather TV Stations Forecasters get all excited whenever a storm is a " Possibility ",only because most days are routinely the same day in & day out.
They exaggerate & get all worked up, to the point of Celebrating on the 5% or less possibility of it really happening, I find it amusing.:clap2:

If you want people to listen tell them the sky is falling and the world might come to an end.

Aces4 08-16-2025 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Howdy (Post 2454033)
The local Weather TV Stations Forecasters get all excited whenever a storm is a " Possibility ",only because most days are routinely the same day in & day out.
They exaggerate & get all worked up, to the point of Celebrating on the 5% or less possibility of it really happening, I find it amusing.:clap2:

Some people are easy to amuse but they are the first ones to beeotch when a storm changes direction and causes great loss of life and property.

If reporting the weather bothers some, they should change the channel and throw their chips in the air.

golfing eagles 08-16-2025 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Howdy (Post 2454033)
The local Weather TV Stations Forecasters get all excited whenever a storm is a " Possibility ",only because most days are routinely the same day in & day out.
They exaggerate & get all worked up, to the point of Celebrating on the 5% or less possibility of it really happening, I find it amusing.:clap2:

That and reporting the "heat index" ad nauseum.
If the high is going to be 95 and the HIGHEST heat index in the area 105, they report it as a forecast of 105-110, so everybody hears that 110. If the highest heat index is going to be 104, then they report it as 104-109. Convenient, huh??? And by that, I mean convenient for pushing their idiotic global warming agenda.

metalic 08-16-2025 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2454055)
And by that, I mean convenient for pushing their idiotic global warming agenda.

Next they'll be telling us that smoking is bad for our health.

golfing eagles 08-17-2025 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2454066)
Next they'll be telling us that smoking is bad for our health.

A better example would be them telling us Santa Claus is real.

thevillages2013 08-17-2025 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2454013)
Heading out into the Atlantic right now. No worries.

Please reconsider this! You may never come back! šŸ˜‚

Minoletti 08-17-2025 05:28 AM

Noooo!
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2454090)
A better example would be them telling us Santa Claus is real.

what? not real? :confused:

golfing eagles 08-17-2025 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoletti (Post 2454096)
what? not real? :confused:

Yeah, I was disappointed as well :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ChicagoNative 08-17-2025 06:48 AM

Denis Phillips and Rule #7

biker1 08-17-2025 06:53 AM

See post #9.

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Originally Posted by ChicagoNative (Post 2454106)
Denis Phillips and Rule #7


ThirdOfFive 08-17-2025 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2454055)
That and reporting the "heat index" ad nauseum.
If the high is going to be 95 and the HIGHEST heat index in the area 105, they report it as a forecast of 105-110, so everybody hears that 110. If the highest heat index is going to be 104, then they report it as 104-109. Convenient, huh??? And by that, I mean convenient for pushing their idiotic global warming agenda.

Yep. Fear is a great sales tool, especially if your bread and butter depend on just how many people listen/read/click on those doom-and-gloom predictions.

It is the same--and growing worse--just about everywhere in America. Back in Minnesota it was ridiculously wide snowfall predictions (I remember one that was "between 2" and 14"), blizzard predictions that ended up leaving maybe 3" of snow and a 20 mph wind, and of course the dreadful "polar vortex" predictions that seemed to follow every prediction of snow, no matter how slight.

We're prepared for the worst. Which never seems to happen in The Villages anyway. If Erin poses a danger (or even just an inconvenience) to The Villages I have absolutely no doubt we'll know well beforehand.

billethkid 08-17-2025 07:12 AM

The typical weather report is repititioning of useless information……..

biker1 08-17-2025 07:18 AM

Erin never posed any issue for us.

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2454114)
Yep. Fear is a great sales tool, especially if your bread and butter depend on just how many people listen/read/click on those doom-and-gloom predictions.

It is the same--and growing worse--just about everywhere in America. Back in Minnesota it was ridiculously wide snowfall predictions (I remember one that was "between 2" and 14"), blizzard predictions that ended up leaving maybe 3" of snow and a 20 mph wind, and of course the dreadful "polar vortex" predictions that seemed to follow every prediction of snow, no matter how slight.

We're prepared for the worst. Which never seems to happen in The Villages anyway. If Erin poses a danger (or even just an inconvenience) to The Villages I have absolutely no doubt we'll know well beforehand.


biker1 08-17-2025 07:21 AM

All the information you need to know for typical days is on the weather app on your phone, including the current weather radar and extrapolation of radar echos into the near future. If a tropical circulation is likely to impact us then tuning into the weather report on the TV would be useful.

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2454115)
The typical weather report is repititioning of useless information……..


bogmonster 08-17-2025 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2454114)
Yep. Fear is a great sales tool, especially if your bread and butter depend on just how many people listen/read/click on those doom-and-gloom predictions.

It is the same--and growing worse--just about everywhere in America. Back in Minnesota it was ridiculously wide snowfall predictions (I remember one that was "between 2" and 14"), blizzard predictions that ended up leaving maybe 3" of snow and a 20 mph wind, and of course the dreadful "polar vortex" predictions that seemed to follow every prediction of snow, no matter how slight.

We're prepared for the worst. Which never seems to happen in The Villages anyway. If Erin poses a danger (or even just an inconvenience) to The Villages I have absolutely no doubt we'll know well beforehand.

Don’t forget back in around 2014 when they nailed the 18ā€ right on the button. They thought they were god for the next 5 years.

gorillarick 08-17-2025 08:24 AM

So? And it proves what?

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-17-2025 08:32 AM

I don't understand why anyone is annoyed and critical about fear-mongering, when there wasn't any fear-mongering. The weather reports were reporting weather. There IS a cat-5 hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean. It really IS headed north of the equator. It really IS east of Puerto Rico, and it really IS turning northwesterly-to-northeasterly as it climbs up the map toward New England. That means it really IS going to NOT hit the coast. It's reporting the weather. If someone doesn't like that weather gets reported, maybe - they shouldn't listen to weather reports and don't click on forum threads on the internet with the word "Hurricane" in the title.

Taltarzac725 08-17-2025 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2454139)
I don't understand why anyone is annoyed and critical about fear-mongering, when there wasn't any fear-mongering. The weather reports were reporting weather. There IS a cat-5 hurricane in the Atlantic Ocean. It really IS headed north of the equator. It really IS east of Puerto Rico, and it really IS turning northwesterly-to-northeasterly as it climbs up the map toward New England. That means it really IS going to NOT hit the coast. It's reporting the weather. If someone doesn't like that weather gets reported, maybe - they shouldn't listen to weather reports and don't click on forum threads on the internet with the word "Hurricane" in the title.

Love the common sense. Some stations have stuff that infuriates me so I do not watch those stations unless I am not in control of the remote. But sometimes the remote finds itself beneath stuff.

suediff 08-17-2025 08:38 AM

To say that global warming is not a threat is foolish. The glaciers around Mt Baker in Washington state have been surveyed the past 47 years and 12 glaciers have disappeared. 9 in the past 5 years. They supply water for human consumption and watering of crops. We need to take aggressive steps now.

Jimmy Lee 08-17-2025 08:44 AM

This is the typical Global Warming Hysteria from our news media
 
I checked on Hurricane Erin this morning. It's a strong Category 2 (110 mph maximum sustained winds). Based on yesterday's projections St. Thomas and Puerto Rico should be getting clobbered this morning, so I checked current weather at St.Thomas (wind at 10 mph, with gusts to 13 mph) and San Juan (wind at 0 mph, with gusts to 3 mph). The News Media is hyping the storm to the max based on their "projections" which is part of their Global Warming propaganda. Everyone should be aware that tropical hurricanes and cyclones are not increasing in frequency or intensity. Check out meteorologist Dr. Ryan Maue's website for accurate information by searching for Global Tropical Cyclone Activity | Ryan Maue and go to the Climate Discussion Nexus where they have fun with the Media's reporting on climate by searching for CDN on You Tube. I was in Houston last year when Hurricane Beryl came through. The power went out and you couldn't find gasoline for your car or generator for miles around, so if a storm is actually heading toward The Villages, make sure you've got gas beforehand.

Taltarzac725 08-17-2025 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by suediff (Post 2454141)
To say that global warming is not a threat is foolish. The glaciers around Mt Baker in Washington state have been surveyed the past 47 years and 12 glaciers have disappeared. 9 in the past 5 years. They supply water for human consumption and watering of crops. We need to take aggressive steps now.

Definitely agree.

The evidence is all around us . But other stations also very concerned about their ratings keep spewing what they think their viewers want to hear. All the media are concerned about ratings as they want their money to keep coming.

Fastskiguy 08-17-2025 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2454146)
Definitely agree.

The evidence is all around us . But other stations also very concerned about their ratings keep spewing what they think their viewers want to hear. All the media are concerned about ratings as they want their money to keep coming.

Big oil has a history of propaganda as well-see leaded gasoline and the decline of IQ of half of the US population.

Lead Exposure in Last Century Shrank IQ Scores of Half of Americans | Duke Today

Since they covered up the toxic effects of leaded gasoline for 70 years (!), why would you not think they are covering up global warming?

Joe

Velvet 08-17-2025 09:41 AM

In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior. Reminds me a bit of how some religions work.

Taltarzac725 08-17-2025 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2454163)
In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior. Reminds me a bit of how some religions work.

Laws and religion are meant to keep people's behavior in check but then we have lawyers who look for the loopholes and politicians who create them for lawyers to find. Just a general statement not aimed at anyone particular. And then we had religious leaders who kept everything in dead languages and/or in books they only had access to .

metalic 08-17-2025 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2454163)
In my view, there may be global warming. It certainly seemed to have happened during the dinosaur era. At that time there were no people to blame. Today, it seems like, there is an unashamed attempt at trying to make people feel guilty in corder to control their behavior.

May be? The data shows very clearly that there IS global warming. While the climate constantly changes, this time it is warming many times faster than in the past and the process started accelerating from the beginning of industrialisation.

Improvements in measuring temperatures (air, land and sea), including from space, have given us much better data than late last century, when it was fairly easy to deny mankind's involvement.

Accepting that the rapid warming is caused by us is hard, because it means we need to take action and be part of the solution but, if you don't do this for yourself, at least do it for your grandchildren. We caused this mess - it is up to us to tackle it.

JWinATL 08-17-2025 10:19 AM

My late husband was with the National Flood Insurance Program for 25 years covering the entire Southeastern US. The best I can tell you is (a) that’s why I don’t live on either coast; and (b) they really have no clue what a hurricane is actually going to do day to day.

Be alert. That’s about the size of it.

Velvet 08-17-2025 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2454171)
May be? The data shows very clearly that there IS global warming. While the climate constantly changes, this time it is warming many times faster than in the past and the process started accelerating from the beginning of industrialisation.

Improvements in measuring temperatures (air, land and sea), including from space, have given us much better data than late last century, when it was fairly easy to deny mankind's involvement.

Accepting that the rapid warming is caused by us is hard, because it means we need to take action and be part of the solution but, if you don't do this for yourself, at least do it for your grandchildren. We caused this mess - it is up to us to tackle it.

I understand I think what you are saying. My thoughts are that, no, we are not going to be able to influence climate change because the forces are much greater than us. Reminds me of when they exploded nuclear bombs in order to try to change volcano flows.

To think that we can, is hubris. This does not mean we can’t be better actors, only that it’s not going to make a significant difference. (And yes, I am familiar exactly, with how statistical models work.)

biker1 08-17-2025 10:50 AM

Typically, model forecasted storm tracks show considerable skill about 4 days out with increasing accuracy as you get closer to landfall. Occasionally, I see some remarkably accurate storm tracks 5-6 days out with the NCEP global model. Furthermore, the uncertainty in the storm tracks can be quantified. Simulations of storm intensity changes typically have less fidelity than the storm tracks. I am a retired research meteorologist and I worked at NASA and the National Weather Service where I developed research and operational computer forecast models.

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Originally Posted by JWinATL (Post 2454177)
My late husband was with the National Flood Insurance Program for 25 years covering the entire Southeastern US. The best I can tell you is (a) that’s why I don’t live on either coast; and (b) they really have no clue what a hurricane is actually going to do day to day.

Be alert. That’s about the size of it.


Taltarzac725 08-17-2025 10:51 AM

Actions for a healthy planet | United Nations


Might help a bit with climate change.

Worldseries27 08-17-2025 11:30 AM

That's what i say
 
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2454115)
the typical weather report is repititioning of useless information……..

i can't get no satisfaction either

jimjamuser 08-17-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2454055)
That and reporting the "heat index" ad nauseum.
If the high is going to be 95 and the HIGHEST heat index in the area 105, they report it as a forecast of 105-110, so everybody hears that 110. If the highest heat index is going to be 104, then they report it as 104-109. Convenient, huh??? And by that, I mean convenient for pushing their idiotic global warming agenda.

The United Nations and the majority of scientists in the WORLD believe that Global Warming is "settled Science". There are a few naysayers that repeat the doctrine put out by the gas and oil conglomerate simply because, for them, billions of dollars are at stake. They buy and control whole TV networks in the US so that they can maintain their ANTIQUATED industry.


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