Executive course slope ratings.
 

Is there a list of the slope rating for each Executive course?

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https://ncrdb.usga.org/

A slope rating isn’t really relevant for courses where there is no consistency in the condition of the greens throughout the year.

i think you mean slop........

It is if you are going to post your score. The accuracy of the slope rating is a separate matter. But no matter the conditions the true slope on the executives will be really low.

Slope is not affect by course conditions.

"Course conditions" are taken into consideration by "Playing Conditions Calculation" (PCC).

I think the executives can be very tough on your handicap. The closest executive to my house is Laurel Oaks. It has a rating of 29 and a slope of 88 from the black tees.

With my 18 handicap I would need to shoot a 35 or better (8 out of 20 times) or my handicap would go up. Not easy for a bogey golfer prone to the occasional double or triple.

It's the same with most of the Championship courses. That's how the Handicap system works. On ridiculously easy courses, you need to shoot low numbers.

What's the deal with keeping your handicap down? It's supposed to be an accurate representation of your potential scores and the system does a fairly good job at calculating that.

OK , I’ll go with that. What is the PCC of the typical Villages Executive course, and do you really think it accurately reflects the extreme variation of the conditions of the greens throughout the year? The greens conditions of the Executives we play throughout the year can vary from a 10 (worst possible) to about a 5 (best possible), compared to the greens on just about any day at Tierra Del Sol.

Here's the problem with PCC, as it relates to The Villages. I don't believe (but I don't know) enough golfers submit legitimate scores to the GHIN system, for the system to work properly .... especially as it relates to the Executive courses.

Also keep in mind, the GHIN system is predicated on golfers playing per the Rules of Golf and reporting all legitimate scores. Any variations from the official Rules of Golf, negates the entire premise of the system.

That pretty much disqualifies the Executives.

I don't in any way want to keep my index artificially low, but I also don't want to be labelled a sandbagger. And that is what will happen if I show up to a money game at my home course with an extra couple of strokes and no degradation in my game. The system generally does a good job, but I mention a nuance of the system is that easy tracks often make your index go up.

Easy tracks make your handicap go up, because you're going to need those strokes when you play tougher courses.

Don't submit Exec course scorecards. Problem solved.
Just treat a round as practice, and a bit of fun.

On Golf The Villages, Home Page, under Tournament Schedule:
https://www.golfthevillages.com/pdfD...a-5985d99e6dc8

Yes. Golf in The Villages.

In which case, you wouldn't have a legitimate handicap, per USGA/GHIN guidelines.

GHIN ratings is used for skill level cut offs for different levels of competition.

MA Golf public course championship used to be a 16 index max for qualification, now is down to 11 if i recall correctly. We are in a MA Golf couples tournament and the index cutoff is 24 i think, with the index at the time of signup. . CoachK was won several local tournaments with an accurate GHIN with her net score, by having a great day vs her index.

so getting to the lower GHIN level, by whatever means, allows for qualification to enter. does not guarantee anything beyond that of course. . and there is no one in danger of losing to us at the couples tournament. . we are going because I have played corp tournaments with CoachK, but I want to play one real tournament with CoachK before I can't play any longer.

Executives for practice, championship for GHIN is our rule. .

That would have been a perfect solution and apparently, the way things were intended.

Unfortunately, Villagers complained that the Executive Course scores couldn't be posted to GHIN.

The Villages (Developer) using it's infinite influence & a dose of money (Golfer Courses pay to be including in the GHIN/Rating system), made a deal with the USGA, who changed their regulations and brought TV's Executive Courses into the system ... to the detriment of serious golfers, but to satisfy a vocal minority and to aid in marketing.

Now Executive Course "golfers" get to report their scores and all the associated fall out that comes with rating courses that shouldn't be rated.

Does anyone want to hazard a guess, how much revenue was involved with the "USGA new rules"?

People who never thought of having an official handicap, will now sign up & pay their $35 or whatever TV charges to be in the GHIN system. How many people? 10,000? How much does the "course" pay GHIN to manage the handicap? I don't know, $10 per year?

Revenue makes it all go around, especially for a "non-profit" like the USGA and the District/Developer.

Wow, you actually answered his question instead of going off on a tangent. Thank you!

Perfect, thanks.