Tresspassed
 

How can a person be trespassed from the villages for holding a god bless the homeless vets sign. I thought the roads were public and sidewalks are public…Iknow the squares are private property but open to the public.

You may want to talk to a real lawyer if you want valid legal advice.

Tresspassed
 

What if this person is a homeowner in the villages,,he cannot go home? It dos not make sense..taxes are paid to Sumter county they are public roads.it is not a gated community any one can come…:MOJE_whot:

I don’t think you can be trespasses for your home unless domestic incidents? Now maybe village can trespass you from all facilities and you still have to pay amenities fees. Maybe Businesses can trespass pass person if they are caught stealing or causing disruption. Road maybe public for travel but land maybe private? I’m no expert on subject or claim to be but I did sleep in Holiday INN in pass… and I ran two racks of 9 ball yesterday. :beer3:

Where did u run 2 racks…

About as far north you can get in villages…

Could b Churchill tables r pretty easy there,,9 ball a good game… now when your on private property that’s a different story,a business or village property such as rec center, pools you can b tresspassed.but he was on a public sidewalk walk no crime was broken.the deputy was not sure of this,he said semi private, ha what’s that?/// any way keep hitting them straight..:sing:

Hi, I’m trying to follow what you are saying, can you reword it in regular English?

Not enough details really here. Where was the person when he was holding up the sign? And when?

Mid afternoon on a public sidewalk.the sign was handwritten on a piece of cardboard,size was approx 12x16 it’s said got bless the homeless vets….:bigbow…

Any danger presented by the sign holder? Like distracting drivers, getting in the way of golf carts, etc.

No he doesn’t break the law…this isn’t his first rodeo….

If I were in his situation I would talk to a lawyer licensed in Florida about it. I am a law librarian by inclination and training. We are not allowed to practice law unless special arrangements were made. However, I did graduate from the U of Minnesota Law School but that was in 1989. I am trained in asking questions though. Your friend might try Findlaw. Find Laws, Legal Help, and Attorneys - FindLaw Just a moment...

Public sidwalk, where or what square? In front of the Villages sales office, Dunkin, Five Guys? I guess the question is what is their beef that they have to hold a sign at a specific location? Probably get more traction standing along with the pan handlers on 44?

It’s called freedom of speech in a public place.no laws are broken..😀

Possibly not which could be why he was trespassed. But details matter and we are hearing only one, fairly biased side of the story.

Other side of the story would help.

You’ll not get it.
The story teller won’t give all the facts. If you had the facts you would probably not be outraged like the story teller wants.

Wow. This thread is much ado about nothing. Was this incident even newsworthy enough to make the local paper?

Asking for a friend.

Where exactly did this occur???
How was it reported????
Was he arrested????
Had he returned to a site from which he was already trespassed???
Did he have a reason for trespassing???
Is he homeless or mentally ill???

The entire OP is worthless without those answers

Also, did he have pants on?!

To be trespassed, one needs to be on private property. Have been asked to leave or committed a crime (like shoplifting).
It is a civil complaint by a private entity against somebody.
You cannot be trespassed from public property or public buildings.

IF (big if here) a trespass order was entered then WHO is the order protecting? Was the person ever on their private property? Were they asked to leave?

Signs are protected speech according to the Supreme Court. No person or entity can prevent displaying signs - especially in public or on their own property.
FYI - Deed restrictions are also unconstitutional per SCOTUS (see Reed vs Gilbert AZ). One can sign away their 1st amendment right, but they can also reclaim that right at any time. That's the power of constitutionally protected rights.

HOWEVER - a sign advocating something illegal, or placed in such a manner as to cause an unsafe condition, might have consequences. One has the right to free speech, but that does not isolate them from the consequences of that speech. Think of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Or disrupting a concert - you can be asked to leave because it is private property.

IF you were trespassed from a private area, and you were only in a public place (sidewalk) (not on their private property) then you likely have a case against the police and against the person that filed the complaint. A police officer who issued that order should have known better. My guess is that there are details missing from OP's rant.

You need to give more information. You gave very vague info.

Reed vs Town of Gilbert doesn't mention HOA's, in any way.

Deed Restrictions are private agreements and the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private entities, nor does the US Constitution regulate private contracts.

If you paid an attorney for that legal opinion, is it too late to request a refund?

WoW
 

That’s about as paranoid as it gets. The sky is not really falling for most of us. All is over a half told story without all the facts. Wow

By any chance is there a link to a video so we can all see what happened?

They make a living???

I am sure this did not happen as you have claimed. Why not try being completely honest?

As a heads up: most likely not a vet, just a druggie saying that and a pat down would turn up drug paraphernalia which would make them no longer homeless.

We don't need signs like that in the villages! There is plenty of help for veterans in and around the villages. No veteran should be homeless with all the help that offered to them!

Sounds like he was soliciting $$. No soliciting is a neighborhood rule, not a law so Police have to charge with trespass.

My guess he was suspected of panhandling.

Was this guy accepting "donations"?

Florida doesn't have a statewide law prohibiting panhandling, but many local government units have ordinances prohibiting or regulating it.

A start with Florida Statue would be 316 and 316.2065
Villages in Sumter landing try to enforce sidewalks across the streets from the square, which is public sidewalks even during a event. The square where entertainment happens is under a use permit from 4 pm to 9 pm under statue 190. The village team event people have NO Police power or Authority on public side walks where all the stores are located! Wake up people are constitution rights are be attacked every day by the powers to be!

Bicycle regulations???? I don't think that applies here.

It also goes abreast in case law in public domain, the case law is endless. As i said its a start.
Again there is to much missing information with the OP

I follow him on YouTube. He will get the trespass rescinded, send an intent to sue, and ask for the sheriffs dept to have additional 1st and 4 th amendment training, and ask for $1788 to be donated to a veterans homeless shelter (the year the constitution was ratified)
He wins all the time because he is allowed to do what he did and where he did it.

So. This is a schtick?

Googled this. Apparently a regional or national campaign originated in Georgia when a similar incident occurred at a VA facility.

I'm guessing the person holding the sign was doing so to silicate money from drivers at an intersection, etc.? I don't know if this is illegal but I for one don't care for this practice. As a former Georgian, this was widespread around Atlanta plus the occasional "windshield cleaner" downtown.