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BPRICE1234 09-23-2025 08:01 PM

Country Club
 
Does anyone know if there is a plan for a country club in the eastport area?

Marathon Man 09-23-2025 08:22 PM

They are building one.

Altavia 09-23-2025 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2462972)
Does anyone know if there is a plan for a country club in the eastport area?

Yes, Woodlands Golf Club it's under construction.

Shallow Creek is nearby also.

BrianL99 09-24-2025 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2462972)
Does anyone know if there is a plan for a country club in the eastport area?

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2462974)
They are building one.

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2462975)
Yes, Woodlands Golf Club it's under construction.

Shallow Creek is nearby also.

A country club? In The Villages? Perhaps in someone's wildest imagination.

Marathon Man 09-24-2025 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2462981)
A country club? In The Villages? Perhaps in someone's wildest imagination.

The pro shop / restaurant located at championship courses in TV are called country clubs. Even if they do not come up to what some believe a country club should be, that is what they are called.

retiredguy123 09-24-2025 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2463009)
The pro shop / restaurant located at championship courses in TV are called country clubs. Even if they do not come up to what some believe a country club should be, that is what they are called.

I agree. The Villages should rename all of the "country clubs" and call them "restaurants", which is what they are. A country club has members who can visit, watch TV, play cards, sit in the library and read the newspaper, or just visit with other members. Country clubs are not open to the public.

The "country clubs" in The Villages and open to the public, and when you visit, you must order food or a drink or they will tell you to leave. There are no private rooms where you can sit without ordering food. So, these so-called country clubs are not country clubs at all. They are restaurants and that is what they should be called.

golfing eagles 09-24-2025 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2463020)
I agree. The Villages should rename all of the "country clubs" and call them "restaurants", which is what they are. A country club has members who can visit, watch TV, play cards, sit in the library and read the newspaper, or just visit with other members. Country clubs are not open to the public.

The "country clubs" in The Villages and open to the public, and when you visit, you must order food or a drink or they will tell you to leave. There are no private rooms where you can sit without ordering food. So, these so-called country clubs are not country clubs at all. They are restaurants and that is what they should be called.

Disagree---about the restaurant part. Restaurants are not the main focus (but come in second). But these are not "country clubs". How about calling them "18-hole golf courses"?

retiredguy123 09-24-2025 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2463069)
Disagree---about the restaurant part. Restaurants are not the main focus (but come in second). But these are not "country clubs". How about calling them "18-hole golf courses"?

I'm not certain, but I think a contractor operates the restaurant portion of building. They rent the space from The Villages, but they only control the restaurant area. They have nothing to do with the Pro Shop or the golf course. Basically, they are operating a restaurant, just like any other restaurant does. So, why does The Villages refer to it as a country club?

UpNorth 09-24-2025 10:38 AM

I find it unusual that there are very few private member-only country clubs nearby. The only one I can think of is Golden Ocala. Any others? Maybe the area just can't support a true private country club. The Villages simply refer to their layouts as "Championship" courses. Open to the public for a fee.

retiredguy123 09-24-2025 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2463110)
I find it unusual that there are very few private member-only country clubs nearby. The only one I can think of is Golden Ocala. Any others? Maybe the area just can't support a true private country club. The Villages simply refer to their layouts as "Championship" courses. Open to the public for a fee.

Not true. The Villages clearly calls them "Country Club Restaurants" on their website. They even list each one and include photos.
Check it out. Some of the lifestyle visitors actually think that these are actual country clubs. In my opinion, this is deceptive.

I would also add that the golf courses have a dress code, but the restaurants don't. It is fine to dine at one of the restaurants wearing a tee shirt, but you can't go on the golf course without a collared shirt.

UpNorth 09-24-2025 11:25 AM

[QUOTE=retiredguy123;2463114]Not true. The Villages clearly calls them "Country Club Restaurants" on their website. They even list each one and include photos.
Check it out. Some of the lifestyle visitors actually think that these are actual country clubs. In my opinion, this is deceptive.


When I book a tee time, it is for either an "Executive" or "Championship" course.

BrianL99 09-24-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2463110)
I find it unusual that there are very few private member-only country clubs nearby. The only one I can think of is Golden Ocala. Any others? Maybe the area just can't support a true private country club. The Villages simply refer to their layouts as "Championship" courses. Open to the public for a fee.

Truly private country clubs are becoming rare in FL. When I had a home in Tampa, there were very few available (most were associated with a housing development) and I belonged to semi-private club.

Up in Spring Hill, I belonged to formerly private (now sem-private club), as well as another Club in Brooksville that was called "Private", but really wasn't ... you had to pay dearly to play if you were a non-member, but the public was allowed.

The only 2 I know of around TV, would be Golden Ocala and Country Club of Ocala. CC of Ocala is owned by Hampton Golf, who owns Southern Hills were I belonged to in Brooksville. They have a fairly decent Membership program, but the commute is just too far for it to be practical for me. Same with Black Diamond.

....in TV, we're stuck with public golf courses, with lousy restaurants. Oh well, we could all move to Naples and spend $150,000 to join a club and it would only cost $12,000/year for dues.

I've looked

Mrfriendly 09-25-2025 06:26 AM

Groucho Marx: "I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member".

Laker 09-25-2025 06:42 AM

Seriously?
 
You know you've turned into a grumpy old fa*t when something as trivial as calling these places country clubs bothers you and keeps you awake at night. Call them whatever you want and go back to sleep.

ElDiabloJoe 09-25-2025 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2463020)
I agree. The Villages should rename all of the "country clubs" and call them "restaurants", which is what they are. A country club has members who can visit, watch TV, play cards, sit in the library and read the newspaper, or just visit with other members. Country clubs are not open to the public...

Sounds like Regional Rec Centers.

Even better, Olympia is for "members to visit, watch TV, play cards, sit in the library, read the newspaper, or just visit with other members." Plus it is NOT open to the public, and is surrounded by current and future dining opportunities.

Perfect!

TomPerry 09-25-2025 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2462981)
A country club? In The Villages? Perhaps in someone's wildest imagination.

All the people complaining about The Villages calling the Championship Courses “Country Clubs” remind me of the Snob character in the movie Caddy Shack played wonderfully by Ted Knight! Get Over It!!!

retiredguy123 09-25-2025 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2463300)
Sounds like Regional Rec Centers.

Even better, Olympia is for "members to visit, watch TV, play cards, sit in the library, read the newspaper, or just visit with other members." Plus it is NOT open to the public, and is surrounded by current and future dining opportunities.

Perfect!

I agree that regional rec centers are more like country clubs, but they don't sell food. My only point is that The Villages has no country club restaurants, so they shouldn't advertise them as such, especially since they are selling a lifestyle to people who visit from out-of-town, and they often think that they are country clubs.

Angelhug52 09-25-2025 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2463020)
I agree. The Villages should rename all of the "country clubs" and call them "restaurants", which is what they are. A country club has members who can visit, watch TV, play cards, sit in the library and read the newspaper, or just visit with other members. Country clubs are not open to the public.

The "country clubs" in The Villages and open to the public, and when you visit, you must order food or a drink or they will tell you to leave. There are no private rooms where you can sit without ordering food. So, these so-called country clubs are not country clubs at all. They are restaurants and that is what they should be called.

Illusion is a corner stone of The Villages. A retirement community 55 and over? With gates? With friendly adults who slide through Stop signs or follow traffic laws ? A class A health system that is breaking Medicare laws? Yes Illusion is a beautiful thing. Country Clubs... LOL.

NotGolfer 09-25-2025 07:51 AM

I'll bite....people move here for the "Life Style" then complain and find fault with (fill in the blank).

tophcfa 09-25-2025 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2463307)
I agree that regional rec centers are more like country clubs, but they don't sell food. My only point is that The Villages has no country club restaurants, so they shouldn't advertise them as such, especially since they are selling a lifestyle to people who visit from out-of-town, and they often think that they are country clubs.

What about the lifestyle that was sold to folks who bought around Hacienda Hills many years ago? At least the other “so called Country Club restaurants” haven’t been demolished yet, so they still got that going for them.

Aces4 09-25-2025 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelhug52 (Post 2463311)
Illusion is a corner stone of The Villages. A retirement community 55 and over? With gates? With friendly adults who slide through Stop signs or follow traffic laws ? A class A health system that is breaking Medicare laws? Yes Illusion is a beautiful thing. Country Clubs... LOL.

So true. It amazes me what old people buy into and then grouse about the fantasy. Did you not do your research before purchasing in this limited community?

Angelhug52 09-25-2025 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2463329)
So true. It amazes me what old people buy into and then grouse about the fantasy. Did you not do your research before purchasing in this limited community?

Was very different 25 years ago. Still an interesting place to live.

pokeefe45@aol.com 09-25-2025 08:21 AM

The Villages stopped calling them ' country clubs' a few years ago with the opening of Southern Oaks Championship GOLF COURSE and then Shallow Creek GOLF COURSE-next up would be Woodlands golf course and then Meadowview golf course slated to be the next two championship courses. Belle Glade was the last one that was called a country club- it's an intentional pivot by the developer realizing they are not building country club facilities but yet golf courses with restaurants.

Lisanp@aol.com 09-25-2025 09:00 AM

Doesn't Boosters meet this definition? It's already open, and a second is going in by Water's Edge/Edenfield

Aces4 09-25-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Angelhug52 (Post 2463331)
Was very different 25 years ago. Still an interesting place to live.

Still interesting for some, it appears it's annoying for others.:throwtomatoes:

SHIBUMI 09-25-2025 12:45 PM

Strict Definition of Country Club
 
Coun·try club
/ˈkəntrē ˌkləb/
noun
1.
a club with sporting and social facilities, set in a suburban area.

so, whats the beef??????????


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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2462981)
A country club? In The Villages? Perhaps in someone's wildest imagination.


SHIBUMI 09-25-2025 01:02 PM

Championship Courses
 
Usually refers to the best course or courses of a multiple course facility. It is safe to say that the Championship Courses are far better than the Executive courses, tougher. So the name makes sense.

'Championship Course' as a Marketing Ploy
Another expansion of the meaning of "championship course" arrived much later, when golf courses started being built as the centerpieces of housing developments and other real estate deals.

You can say that in its modern usage, the term "championship course" has been quite devalued. Today, golfers most often encounter the term in advertising. Any new golf course might choose to advertise itself as a "championship course" to try to convince golfers of its quality.

So today, in many (but not all) cases, the phrase has essentially become nothing more than a marketing term.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

So, the terms are correct..........as usual folks understanding of terms is incorrect or just molded by their personal experiences of what others do. Which doesn't make it law!:bowdown:

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2463110)
I find it unusual that there are very few private member-only country clubs nearby. The only one I can think of is Golden Ocala. Any others? Maybe the area just can't support a true private country club. The Villages simply refer to their layouts as "Championship" courses. Open to the public for a fee.


Topspinmo 09-25-2025 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2462981)
A country club? In The Villages? Perhaps in someone's wildest imagination.


Maybe Miami would have been better retirement community for the upper crust? O wait Miami don’t 700 plus holes available at any of the upper crust retirement communities, same old 18, 27, or 36 holes over and over and over.:D

Aces4 09-25-2025 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2463442)
Maybe Miami would have been better retirement community for the upper crust? O wait Miami don’t 700 plus holes available at any of the upper crust retirement communities, same old 18, 27, or 36 holes over and over and over.:D

I prefer beautifully maintained, quality golf courses and do not mind the same 18, 27 or 36 holes and they don't have to be private. Quality can be a big issue here so number of holes doesn't matter much.

Just jimmy 09-26-2025 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BPRICE1234 (Post 2462972)
Does anyone know if there is a plan for a country club in the eastport area?

Shallow creek championship golf course has Boosters. . That is the restaurant attached to it.

Topspinmo 09-26-2025 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2463324)
What about the lifestyle that was sold to folks who bought around Hacienda Hills many years ago? At least the other “so called Country Club restaurants” haven’t been demolished yet, so they still got that going for them.

Let’s see? first it was Chula Vista, then El Santiago , then Terra de sol, then HH’s. I wonder if Lopez and Palmer’s will succumb to same faith? As they get closer to highway 50?


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