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jgbama 04-10-2011 02:01 PM

Ease of Access to the various villages
 
I've read on a variety of forums about the ease of access into the different villages. Except for new villages which understandably must have open access for contractors, are all villages now that easy for non-residents to gain access. If so, that is a concern. Are the "resident only" entrances still restricted to the swipe cards?

When we come down for our annual weekly visits, we always use the swipe cards provided by the owners.

jblum315 04-10-2011 02:17 PM

The Villages is not a gated community. All the streets are public streets, and no one can actually be denied access.

jgbama 04-10-2011 02:22 PM

Forgive me folks
 
Okay folks, I should have done a search first. I see this point has been beat up pretty good on some other threads. Got a good idea of the answer to my question from reading a number of the posts.

For new members, beside me, the answer appears to be no, TV is not a true gated community.

I'll do a search next time a question pops into my head.

Bill-n-Brillo 04-10-2011 02:48 PM

John, you should find a red button next to the card reader at all the gates. Push it, wait a few seconds, and up goes the gate.

Bill

BigLew 04-10-2011 02:50 PM

access to villages are still by swipe card
 
which also takes a photo in case one might be needed later.
other roads within the villages are 'open' though outside traffic often sticks out like a sore thumb.

jgbama 04-10-2011 03:28 PM

That poses another question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 345767)
John, you should find a red button next to the card reader at all the gates. Push it, wait a few seconds, and up goes the gate.

Bill

Thanks Bill and Big Lew. Now another risky question. (hehehe) Is the bond just for the initial building of the infrastructure, which I'm assuming includes the roads, curbs, etc. Is later repaving or repairs to the streets then up to the County, the developers, or the collective homeowners on that street?

Mikeod 04-10-2011 06:50 PM

For all except the Villa streets in Sumter (and, I think Marion) county, the streets are owned by the county and paving will be that county's responsibility. For the villa streets, I used to think they belonged to the developer or CDD and paving was budgeted through them. Lately, I think I have heard otherwise, so I hope someone from a villa neighborhood will chime in with correct information.

Pturner 04-10-2011 07:12 PM

I'm glad you asked...
 
Hi jgbama,

First, it is perfectly fine to ask a question that has been addressed before on TOTV. No one, either new or veteran to TOTV, is expected to have to go back and search old threads to see whether something has been answered. Most of us are more than happy to help. It's actually more beneficial to ask. That way, you help other newbies who no doubt have the same questions.

Yes, the roads in TV are public and can be accessed without holding up a resident or guest pass to the transponder. The need either hold up the pass or push the button to wait for the gait is at best a deterrent to crime. Having to pause at the gate, and having a photo snapped, hopefully gives "pause" to would-be bad guys but it doesn't prevent their entry.

The public roads in TV are maintained by the county, not by TV.

You are correct that the bonds are a one-time assessment to pay for putting in the infrastructure. Amenities and infrastructure that are owned by TV are maintained by TV. We pay an annual maintenance fee for this, which is included on our annual TV property tax bill as a non-tax assessment.

Hope this helps.

hedoman 04-11-2011 04:49 AM

We realized the gates really just slowed the pace of traffic when we saw you could just press a red button. It does give the appearance of a gated community. I didn't know it took pictures or I would have combed my hair and smiled! I like that they do that as it may help in solving a neighborhood "issue' or have I been watching too many CSI shows......

getdul981 04-11-2011 06:17 AM

If I had to guess, I'd say you've been watching too many CSI shows.

Rosalie 04-11-2011 07:06 AM

Patio Villa Streets
 
Do the homeowners of Patio Villas pay extra to maintain their streets? Do they pay an extra fee? (I know this is a bit off the original subject!) Thanks.

jgbama 04-11-2011 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 345827)
Hi jgbama,

First, it is perfectly fine to ask a question that has been addressed before on TOTV. No one, either new or veteran to TOTV, is expected to have to go back and search old threads to see whether something has been answered. Most of us are more than happy to help. It's actually more beneficial to ask. That way, you help other newbies who no doubt have the same questions.

Yes, the roads in TV are public and can be accessed without holding up a resident or guest pass to the transponder. The need either hold up the pass or push the button to wait for the gait is at best a deterrent to crime. Having to pause at the gate, and having a photo snapped, hopefully gives "pause" to would-be bad guys but it doesn't prevent their entry.

The public roads in TV are maintained by the county, not by TV.

You are correct that the bonds are a one-time assessment to pay for putting in the infrastructure. Amenities and infrastructure that are owned by TV are maintained by TV. We pay an annual maintenance fee for this, which is included on our annual TV property tax bill as a non-tax assessment.

Hope this helps.

Thanks PTurner, yes it helps a bunch. Understanding how a CDD works is certainly a learning curve. We attended a CDD orientation several years ago to learn a little more about the governing process of TV, but don't remember them covering the issue about the gates, etc.

We stayed in a villa off Canal last October and we drove to the gate at Bonita Blvd and it said Residents Only. Heck, we circled to Morse, down to Odell Circle, down to Buena Vista and back up to Bonita looking for an entrance with a Community Watch person, but there wasn't one. We finally got there, but boy howdy what an ordeal. Were ready for a "bibbit" when we got there! :1rotfl:

You would think after 7 visits we would have learned about the button.
This sure helped a lot. Thanks to you and others who helped by responding. :mademyday:

Bob45 04-11-2011 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 345767)
John, you should find a red button next to the card reader at all the gates. Push it, wait a few seconds, and up goes the gate.

Bill

Or you can just sit there. The gate will open. Takes a little while though. Try it, when no-one is behind you.

Bob

jgbama 04-11-2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob45 (Post 345906)
Or you can just sit there. The gate will open. Takes a little while though. Try it, when no-one is behind you.

Bob

WOW, thanks Bob. Didn't know that either!! Amazing what I've learned and still on my first cup of coffee! :clap2:

memason 04-11-2011 09:22 AM

There's been lots of discussion of "why do we even have the gates, if anyone can get in anyway?" Other than the obvious purpose of being a deterrent to potential bad guys, I believe the gates are good traffic regulators. For instance, it would be almost impossible to cross some of these busy streets, in a golf cart, without the gates to stop the flow of cars. They allow the safe weaving/merging of carts and cars at the gates.

I'm sure there are lots of other reasons too...

graciegirl 04-11-2011 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memason (Post 345941)
There's been lots of discussion of "why do we even have the gates, if anyone can get in anyway?" Other than the obvious purpose of being a deterrent to potential bad guys, I believe the gates are good traffic regulators. For instance, it would be almost impossible to cross some of these busy streets, in a golf cart, without the gates to stop the flow of cars. They allow the safe weaving/merging of carts and cars at the gates.

I'm sure there are lots of other reasons too...

Well sure there are other reasons. We can brag to people that we are moving, or live in a gated community.

Seriously, I think it slows down traffic and I like it takes your picture.

ajdeck 04-11-2011 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 345942)
Well sure there are other reasons. We can brag to people that we are moving, or live in a gated community.

Seriously, I think it slows down traffic and I like it takes your picture.



Yes, big thing is it takes a picture of those 'visiting' the neighborhood. That helps just in case there is a problem in the neighborhood.

Pturner 04-11-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgbama (Post 345905)
We finally got there, but boy howdy ...

JG, I gotta know. Did you always say "boy howdy" or did you pick it up from "listening" to the wonderful and grand Postest with the Mostest?

Goodnight Gracie. :wave:

graciegirl 04-11-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 346002)
JG, I gotta know. Did you always say "boy howdy" or did you pick it up from "listening" to the wonderful and grand Postest with the Mostest?

Goodnight Gracie. :wave:

NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K.

This is the important follow up one.

Now I will try not to post so much.:D

I am so happy.:highfive:

skyguy79 04-11-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 346005)
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K. This is the important follow up one.

I am so happy.:highfive:

http://th260.photobucket.com/albums/...sesmiley-1.gif

Pturner 04-11-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 346005)
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K.

This is the important follow up one.

Now I will try not to post so much.:D

I am so happy.:highfive:

Hello Gracie,
I'm so excited about Helene's results. :highfive:
:mademyday:

And don't you dare try to not post so much. Red and I will come after you with everything we've got if you even think about trying such a thing. We won't stand for it. :D

Love,
P

eek, now I've forgotten what this thread is about. Hijack over and out.

BogeyBoy 04-11-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 346013)

eek, now I've forgotten what this thread is about. Hijack over and out.

I think this thread is about photography and pushing one's buttons.

RiteLucky 04-11-2011 04:47 PM

Great information Villagers. I'll be there in May to buy and this answers many questions I had regarding bonds and gates. Thanks!
Off topic: I wish they had a map of the golf cart trails, but I understand they are on a map I can buy there.

pklein9747 04-11-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiteLucky (Post 346045)
Great information Villagers. I'll be there in May to buy and this answers many questions I had regarding bonds and gates. Thanks!
Off topic: I wish they had a map of the golf cart trails, but I understand they are on a map I can buy there.

We received a golf cart trail map each time we stayed on a Lifestyle Visit. Ask your agent for one! We keep one in our cart as we are still learning our way around.

HawkeyeBarb 04-11-2011 05:04 PM

:BigApplause:That is wonderful news for your whole family, Gracie!!!! I wish you all continued good results! Enjoy our warmer Midwest weather and PLEASE keep on posting!! I love to read your comments...always insightful and kind!

Bill-n-Brillo 04-11-2011 05:07 PM

gracie - Good news re: Helene!! See - all that worrying was for naught. :)

Bill

jgbama 04-11-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 346002)
JG, I gotta know. Did you always say "boy howdy" or did you pick it up from "listening" to the wonderful and grand Postest with the Mostest?

Goodnight Gracie. :wave:

Well, not knowing how to get pass the *&#$% gate, I was "fixing" to call the National Guard to get me through!! "Boy howdy", I was steaming, especially after driving 7 1/2 hours and needing to make a "pit stop"!! As far as "postest with the mostest", didn't know that was someone's favorite phrase. Don't want to infringe so I'll defer to another. :smiley:

Since I'm a "registered redneck" (certificate #1027), I was about to pull a "hold my beer and watch this" and make a new path around the gate! (just kiddin' folks). Thirty-eight years in the military taught me better than that. I'm a rule follower of the grandest order!

But, thanks everyone for clarifying the gate issue. I do realize this isn't the first threat on the topic.:ho:

Pturner 04-11-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgbama (Post 346066)
Well, not knowing how to get pass the *&#$% gate, I was "fixing" to call the National Guard to get me through!! "Boy howdy", I was steaming, especially after driving 7 1/2 hours and needing to make a "pit stop"!! As far as "postest with the mostest", didn't know that was someone's favorite phrase. Don't want to infringe so I'll defer to another. :smiley:

Since I'm a "registered redneck" (certificate #1027), I was about to pull a "hold my beer and watch this" and make a new path around the gate! (just kiddin' folks). Thirty-eight years in the military taught me better than that. I'm a rule follower of the grandest order!

But, thanks everyone for clarifying the gate issue. I do realize this isn't the first threat on the topic.:ho:

Boy howdy! ;)

golfnut 04-11-2011 06:15 PM

Could that have grown out of an expression from many years ago used when entering a room.... Howdy Boys..............

Bill-n-Brillo 04-11-2011 06:22 PM

Boy Howdy!!
 
Some additional insight.......FWIW -

http://www.word-detective.com/2008/07/14/boy-howdy/

Bill :)

another Linda 04-11-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 345818)
For all except the Villa streets in Sumter (and, I think Marion) county, the streets are owned by the county and paving will be that county's responsibility. For the villa streets, I used to think they belonged to the developer or CDD and paving was budgeted through them. Lately, I think I have heard otherwise, so I hope someone from a villa neighborhood will chime in with correct information.

We live in a villa community. Recently the CDD repaired a section of the street that had been cracked and raised by tree roots. There will be no charge to home owners.

(Gracie, wonderful news for you!)

jgbama 04-11-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 346076)
Some additional insight.......FWIW -

http://www.word-detective.com/2008/07/14/boy-howdy/

Bill :)

Bill, without you, we'd be "deader than a doornail"!! Boy Howdy, don't want to even think of such a thing!:D

katezbox 04-11-2011 07:30 PM

Gracie - give Helene a big hug for us... That is wonderful news,

Bill-n-Brillo 04-11-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgbama (Post 346084)
Bill, without you, we'd be "deader than a doornail"!! Boy Howdy, don't want to even think of such a thing!:D

Ha! I don't know about THAT...but thanks nonetheless! :)

Bill

2BNTV 04-12-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 346005)
NO...no no Don't say Goodnight Gracie. I was on here blathering when I was worrying and we just got back from oncologist and Helene's cat scan is O.K.

This is the important follow up one.

Now I will try not to post so much.:D

I am so happy.:highfive:

It's wonderful to hear great news. Everyone's prayers for your family's health and well being were answered.

Keep on posting. I know I enjoy your posts.

skyguy79 04-12-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 346170)
It's wonderful to hear great news. Everyone's prayers for your family's health and well being were answered.

Keep on posting. I know I enjoy your posts.

Who doesn't enjoy Gracie's posts? If George Burns were still alive, I'd bet he would be reading Gracie's posts, but wouldn't be saying... "Say good night Gracie!" http://th1104.photobucket.com/albums...iley_cigar.gif


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