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Guest 05-01-2011 10:14 PM

Osama Bin Laden is killed
 
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/201...D9MV1QMG0.html

Guest 05-01-2011 10:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351194)

I've been waiting for a long time for this.... And to think the community organizer with no experience was able to pull this off.

Guest 05-01-2011 10:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351198)
I've been waiting for a long time for this.... And to think the community organizer with no experience was able to pull this off.

Don't you think that maybe the U.S. intelligence agencies and U.S. military had maybe just a little to do with this?

Guest 05-01-2011 10:32 PM

cologal :1rotfl:

How the heck have you been? I haven't been around much lately and I haven't seen posts by you when I have looked in on ToTV.

Guest 05-01-2011 10:38 PM

USA! USA!
You can run but you cannot hide!

Guest 05-01-2011 10:44 PM

at last!
 
something that all americans on all sides can agree upon! we are all glad he has been killed! not for vengeance, but for some small justice.

Guest 05-01-2011 10:55 PM

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&sns=fb[/ame]

Guest 05-01-2011 10:56 PM

I just heard on NBC that the special ops team that did the deed was made up of Navy Seals. There were no Americans injured or killed during the operation.

Xavier

Guest 05-01-2011 11:18 PM

It took almost all of 10 years to finally track this blot on humanity down and send him to his maker, but the vigilance of the armed forces of the U.S. prevailed as we always knew they would.

In all fairness The President of the U.S. is the Commander-In-Chief, and as such, gets credit for having the right people in the right place at the right time. I'm partisan, but I'm not a hypocrite. I would have applauded the former president, and I applaud this one. It's a great day for America and for all Americans.

I know I will be criticizing him again real soon, but not today.

Guest 05-02-2011 12:52 AM

Yeahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
 
One nation, under God, indivisible... with Liberty and Justice for all! We should all remember this more often!

President Obama rocks! Our armed forces and special ops rock!

One more piece of evil gone from this Earth. :clap2:

Guest 05-02-2011 07:07 AM

Both sides can revel in the death of this evil, evil man.
But when my wife told me he was buried at sea my first thought was "oh, oh, there will be 'deathers' heard from soon" and isn't that a sad state of affairs considering this great accomplishment for the USA (note that I did not say Obama). I hope I am wrong, but keep an eye on it.

Guest 05-02-2011 07:50 AM

Great Day, and the President as Commander in Chief gets to take credit to allow the operation to go on. Navy SEALS are the best. Worked with some during my Navy days. Absolute BEST warriors.

Only issue for me is the news that "He was given a proper Muslim burial", and at sea to avoid a shrine being built etc. The issue is that I hope it was shark infested waters, and that he was "buried" naked and bleeding.

Too rough, sorry, still can't get the vision of those poor people jumping to their deaths from the burning towers out of my head.

Guest 05-02-2011 08:07 AM

Perhaps here is what was last in Osama's last thoughts.

Just sayin......

http://www.sealswcc.com/seal-default.aspx

Guest 05-02-2011 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351259)
Great Day, and the President as Commander in Chief gets to take credit to allow the operation to go on. Navy SEALS are the best. Worked with some during my Navy days. Absolute BEST warriors.

Awesome Warriors! Spent three years at Little Creek, VA.

Xavier

Guest 05-02-2011 09:19 AM

I love America and I love our military especially the Navy. My Dad a retired Navy man still has vision and tenacity. Still waters run deep. The job took a decade but we took care of business.

Thank you for a job well done. God bless America!

Guest 05-02-2011 09:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351249)
Both sides can revel in the death of this evil, evil man.
But when my wife told me he was buried at sea my first thought was "oh, oh, there will be 'deathers' heard from soon" and isn't that a sad state of affairs considering this great accomplishment for the USA (note that I did not say Obama). I hope I am wrong, but keep an eye on it.

We need pictures and we need them real soon. The American people will be demanding that, for the same reason we go to view the deceased at a wake. We need to see with our own eyes for true closure. Without that, what you fear will become reality.

Guest 05-02-2011 10:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351292)
We need pictures and we need them real soon. The American people will be demanding that, for the same reason we go to view the deceased at a wake. We need to see with our own eyes for true closure. Without that, what you fear will become reality.

It's already started. A site on the web claimed the photos of him with a hole in his head were really not him. Damn I wish we could all get together.

Guest 05-02-2011 10:43 AM

Just in....DNA evidence proves with 99.9% certainty that it was, in fact, bin Laden.

Guest 05-02-2011 10:53 AM

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We need pictures and we need them real soon. The American people will be demanding that, for the same reason we go to view the deceased at a wake. We need to see with our own eyes for true closure. Without that, what you fear will become reality.

True closure?

I am beginning to form the opinion that a viewing is not a great thing. I am leaning more toward a memorial ceremony with a picture of me in a good light.

It will become a reality, because the reality is that some of us trust the government and some of us do not.

I have no reason to think that this is a scam.

But I have heard and read some tall tales on here and heard some urban legends. Some people want to believe preposterous things and I am not sure why. Some people like to stir the pot. Some people like to hate.

Guest 05-02-2011 11:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351312)
True closure?

I am beginning to form the opinion that a viewing is not a great thing. I am leaning more toward a memorial ceremony with a picture of me in a good light.

It will become a reality, because the reality is that some of us trust the government and some of us do not.

I have no reason to think that this is a scam.

But I have heard and read some tall tales on here and heard some urban legends. Some people want to believe preposterous things and I am not sure why. Some people like to stir the pot. Some people like to hate.

Can someone give me an amen?

AMEN.

Xavier

Guest 05-02-2011 11:22 AM

Great
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 351312)
True closure?

I am beginning to form the opinion that a viewing is not a great thing. I am leaning more toward a memorial ceremony with a picture of me in a good light.

It will become a reality, because the reality is that some of us trust the government and some of us do not.

I have no reason to think that this is a scam.

But I have heard and read some tall tales on here and heard some urban legends. Some people want to believe preposterous things and I am not sure why. Some people like to stir the pot. Some people like to hate.

post.

Guest 05-02-2011 11:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351312)
true closure?

I am beginning to form the opinion that a viewing is not a great thing. I am leaning more toward a memorial ceremony with a picture of me in a good light.

It will become a reality, because the reality is that some of us trust the government and some of us do not.

I have no reason to think that this is a scam.

But i have heard and read some tall tales on here and heard some urban legends. Some people want to believe preposterous things and i am not sure why. Some people like to stir the pot. Some people like to hate.

amen

Guest 05-02-2011 11:26 AM

I'm thankful Obama continued Bush's policy at Getmo. That's where the intel came from that lead to OBL's demise. Good thing he didn't close it like he promised.

Some how I knew Obama would get the credit instead of the Seals that risked their lives to take him out.

Guest 05-02-2011 11:32 AM

Obama has given all the
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 351323)
I'm thankful Obama continued Bush's policy at Getmo. That's where the intel came from that lead to OBL's demise. Good thing he didn't close it like he promised.

Some how I knew Obama would get the credit instead of the Seals that risked their lives to take him out.

credit to our men and women in uniform. Where do you get the nonsense you post here?

Guest 05-02-2011 11:45 AM

dk: He's getting credit for giving the operation the 'go' sign.

From what I just heard on MSNBC radio while out at lunch:

- DNA just in, 100% sure.
- CIA facial recognition software - 95% sure.
- The military is in possession of a picture of Osama's body. They and the president are contemplating whether or not to release it.

Guest 05-02-2011 12:13 PM

I love the Obama Rocks comment. As a whole, the group that actually did the work is JSOC. The very ones that were so harshly criticized right here on this forum (along with Bush) for their “interrogation” techniques that were used to get intel on people like OBL and probably OBL himself.

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Since 9/11, the JSOC units and their task forces have become the U.S. government's most effective and lethal weapon against terrorists and their networks, drawing plenty of unwanted, and occasionally unflattering, attention to themselves in the process.
JSOC costs the country more than $1 billion annually. The command has its critics, but it has escaped significant congressional scrutiny and has operated largely with impunity since 9/11. Some of its interrogators and operators were involved in torture and rendition, and the line between its intelligence-gathering activities and the CIA's has been blurred.
One of Obama’s “election war cries” was to close Guantanamo Bay and even prosecute those who engaged in such harsh tactics at Guantanamo.

Now Obama Rocks? I think I’m going to be sick. The only thing Obama did is give the word go and probably had to read that off his teleprompter.

The thing that truly rocks is our Military and the people in it. I give ZERO credit to Obama except for the fact he didn’t close Guantanamo or cut funding for JSOC.

Ok, I won't critire Obama for the rest of the day... no week. Happy now?

I'm happy that OBL will rot in Hell for all eternaty and I'm happy for our Military.. another feather in their cap.

Guest 05-02-2011 01:00 PM

dk,your response is unbelievable. You have won. I will no longer respond to any of your posts. Your hatred for the man will not allow any impartiality toward him. It has nothing to do with his policies or beliefs, you hate the man. There is NOTHING he can do that will change your mind. It's too bad.

Guest 05-02-2011 01:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351336)
I love the Obama Rocks comment. As a whole, the group that actually did the work is JSOC. The very ones that were so harshly criticized right here on this forum (along with Bush) for their “interrogation” techniques that were used to get intel on people like OBL and probably OBL himself.



One of Obama’s “election war cries” was to close Guantanamo Bay and even prosecute those who engaged in such harsh tactics at Guantanamo.

Now Obama Rocks? I think I’m going to be sick. The only thing Obama did is give the word go and probably had to read that off his teleprompter.

The thing that truly rocks is our Military and the people in it. I give ZERO credit to Obama except for the fact he didn’t close Guantanamo or cut funding for JSOC.

Ok, I won't critire Obama for the rest of the day... no week. Happy now?

I'm happy that OBL will rot in Hell for all eternaty and I'm happy for our Military.. another feather in their cap.

Something just isn't right. Too much aggression and hatred. Maybe you are working too hard. Dude, you need to take some me time and just relax. I wouldn't be running any machinery.

Xavier

Guest 05-02-2011 01:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351336)
I love the Obama Rocks comment. As a whole, the group that actually did the work is JSOC. The very ones that were so harshly criticized right here on this forum (along with Bush) for their “interrogation” techniques that were used to get intel on people like OBL and probably OBL himself.



One of Obama’s “election war cries” was to close Guantanamo Bay and even prosecute those who engaged in such harsh tactics at Guantanamo.

Now Obama Rocks? I think I’m going to be sick. The only thing Obama did is give the word go and probably had to read that off his teleprompter.

The thing that truly rocks is our Military and the people in it. I give ZERO credit to Obama except for the fact he didn’t close Guantanamo or cut funding for JSOC.

Ok, I won't critire Obama for the rest of the day... no week. Happy now?

I'm happy that OBL will rot in Hell for all eternaty and I'm happy for our Military.. another feather in their cap.

As ever, real klassy.

Guest 05-02-2011 01:43 PM

The last two posts criticizing DKLASSEN are a bit confusing.

While the President is in the office when this takes place and should and will get credit, everything that DKLASSEN says is correct. He has continued ALL the policies he decried during the campaign, and that continuation led to this plan of attack. That can not be denied, can it ?

This does not take away from any credit, but to look at this in total isolation is somewhat short sighted and totally political.

Guest 05-02-2011 02:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351323)
I'm thankful Obama continued Bush's policy at Getmo. That's where the intel came from that lead to OBL's demise. Good thing he didn't close it like he promised.

Some how I knew Obama would get the credit instead of the Seals that risked their lives to take him out.

I'm also glad that the President had enough sense, once in office, to continue GW Bush's terrorist strategies and utilize the redefined defense and national security intelligence protocols developed during his administration.

Another of the President's decisions I'm thankful for, like you D, is his decision to renege on his pledge to close Guantanamo as he promised those who voted for him, and keep this facility open which reportedly resulted in the intel that led to locating bin Laden's whereabouts.

The President did in his initial address last night use the word "I" a lot in reporting the assassination, much like Bill Clinton always did in speaking to the press. It a foible they both share because of their self centered personalities. It would have been more statesman-like if he was a little more humble, as Reagan and Bush would have been, but that's a minor issue in this story.

Guest 05-02-2011 03:16 PM

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The last two posts criticizing DKLASSEN are a bit confusing.

While the President is in the office when this takes place and should and will get credit, everything that DKLASSEN says is correct. He has continued ALL the policies he decried during the campaign, and that continuation led to this plan of attack. That can not be denied, can it ?

This does not take away from any credit, but to look at this in total isolation is somewhat short sighted and totally political.

First off, :welcome: to TOTV. If you haven't already, you'll find this place just loaded with useful information and wonderful people. That is, in the non-Political portion of this site! The political thread is a place where people never change anyone else's opinion and continually try by banging their head against a concrete wall. Quite fun if you're into that. I don't normally hang around here, but I've been bored lately and have been doing my best not to let the 6 or 7 regular right-wingers take themselves too seriously. They need a little stirring up to keep them from eating their young.

To your first question: Yes, that can be denied since you didn't support your very broad statement. You used the word ALL and we all know that's totally false.

Your referrence to "...is somewhat short sighted and totally political." Duh, Political Forum!

Enjoy yourself and don't take this place too seriously. I now return you to your regular programming. Or is that deprogramming? :thumbup:

Xavier

Guest 05-02-2011 03:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351351)
The last two posts criticizing DKLASSEN are a bit confusing.

While the President is in the office when this takes place and should and will get credit, everything that DKLASSEN says is correct. He has continued ALL the policies he decried during the campaign, and that continuation led to this plan of attack. That can not be denied, can it ?

This does not take away from any credit, but to look at this in total isolation is somewhat short sighted and totally political.

It's the hatred that klassy spews...paraphrasing 'all Obama did was give the order and then probably from a teleprompter'....he always has to work in his hatred.

Guest 05-02-2011 03:37 PM

Obama is the POTUS and it happened under his watch....he had to give the final OK as commander in chief...we all know that.

Congrats are in order for the JSOC team and their intel sources that made it happen.

My only criticism is, and I would say this regardless who was POTUS...in his speech last night it was not necessary for him to to declare it happened "under my direction". All warm blooded thinking people on the planet recognize he is commander in chief and the role a POTUS plays in such an event of world wide impact. I choose to chalk that type commentary off to his advisors that did not serve him well in that regard...and his inexperience as a leader knowing he gets the credit without having to advertize as such.

We also know in this day and age of possible mistakes and mis-representation that those in the responsible positions in the chain of command would have some validation beyond a reasonable doubt to support the deed claimed.

And in my opinion we owed Bin Laden or the lunatics that support and follow him, muslim or other wise any respect to dispense with the body in accordance to muslim belief.....that is somewhat of a distortion for an individual who is central to killing as many Americans as possible...men, women and children. Hence the immediate burial at sea is at best kind of hokey. Again Obama's advisors would/should know exactly how the skeptical world we live in would react to such closure (which for many it just will not be) and it does not matter whether there is an R or D after your name to think that way.

It is by it's very nature political fodder....like it or not.

When Huseein's sons were killed they were very mindful to have available photos to alay the naysayers.

I think it was a mistake to not maximize the visual proof for the world! Screw the honoring of the muslim practice of how they treat their dead....this man did not and certainly does not warrant such "honor".

btk

Guest 05-02-2011 03:42 PM

Oh give me a break DaleMN

Interesting that for years, Bush, Chaney, Palin, Bachmann, The Tea Party, etc, etc, etc, have taken a pounding right in these very forums. They’ve been called war criminals, liars and racists among many other things.

When the shoes on the other foot some folks just can’t seem to deal with it. How predictable, anyone who has a differing opinion is deemed a hater. Typical ploy from the left in an attempt to shut down anyone who doesn't agree with them.

So let’s get back to the facts. Exactly what did Obama do to facilitate or organize the capture of OBL besides giving the ok?

Guest 05-02-2011 04:30 PM

Lassen, get back to your newspapers (whatever right wing rag that you read). Ossama was not captured. He was killed. You wanted to get back to the facts in your last post. Ossama was killed. You said captured.

It is C H E N E Y and not C H A N E Y. Even the right wing fishwrappers spell the names right. Speaking of Dick Cheney, he received 5 draft deferments and testified before Congress that "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." A liar, war criminal, and racist? Let the record speak for itself. I do not see racist in his background.

Guest 05-02-2011 04:51 PM

Why do some people think giving the OK was so easy,no big deal,nothing to worry about. DK,did you ever think of the consequences if the mission failed? 40 Americans were sent in. What if they were killed instead? What would have been the reaction if the mission was a failure? This was not as easy as some of you are saying. He made the decision and should be applauded for it not demeaned.

Guest 05-02-2011 05:38 PM

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What would have been the reaction if the mission was a failure?
Blame Bush?

Bugs, that sounds a bit hateful to me. You know what I meant in my post.

I do give Obama credit for carrying on Bush's policies and I'm glad he did.

Guest 05-02-2011 06:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 351394)
Why do some people think giving the OK was so easy,no big deal,nothing to worry about. DK,did you ever think of the consequences if the mission failed? 40 Americans were sent in. What if they were killed instead? What would have been the reaction if the mission was a failure? This was not as easy as some of you are saying. He made the decision and should be applauded for it not demeaned.

Bravo

Guest 05-02-2011 06:21 PM

Be back in a few. Have to go off line. Tornado warning...close.


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