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decodiana 05-03-2011 06:13 PM

Limit One Visit!!! Huh???
 
My sister and I visited in January 2011 but only were able to stay four nights. We were interested in coming again in June to see if we could "stand the heat" and to get to know our way around a little better. We're both still working, and our anticipated move to TV won't be for another 2-3 years, so we're limited to a time when we could both make the trip from NJ.

I entered a chat with an on-line rep on the Villages website and asked about availability for the June dates and referred to the sales rep we had in January. I was told that there is a one-time limit on the Lifestyle visit. That's it...short and not so sweet. So much for the "friendliest hometown" kind of feeling. :(:shocked:

So I guess I have two questions. First, are there folks out there that have done the Lifestyle visit more than once? I'm sure I've read threads that stated that this was possible. We're not looking for any freebees and of course we'll be paying for our home away from home. Secondly, if it's really not possible to get a second visit, if we stayed at the hotel in Lake Sumter, how would we go about getting passes to tour open houses?

billlaur 05-03-2011 06:18 PM

life style visit
 
We did it once last year for 6 nites and extended it 4 more nites no problem..
Then we went again but rented a cyy for 2 weeks ,worked out very well.There are plenty of houses for rent ..Check the rentals at the villages....

pooh 05-03-2011 06:20 PM

You could always rent a home or villa for a month. And as far as getting to see the model homes, well, go over to the sales office and ask to visit with a rep who can take you to see the homes and villas. We did that...just stopped in and asked for a rep to give us some info and a tour of the model homes.

We've lived here for 5 years now... :)

FMF Doc 05-03-2011 06:21 PM

Lifestyle
 
Talk to your sales rep/ I believe they have to "invite" you back.

George

decodiana 05-03-2011 06:21 PM

Thanks for the quick response. The only problem is that we're only available for 5 nights. Don't think we can rent a home for that short a period of time...
If it were possible, I'd love to rent an Iris because that's the model we're interested in.

elevatorman 05-03-2011 06:21 PM

We did 3 over a long period. Call your agent and see if he can help. Another option is to rent from a private owner.

Niels 05-03-2011 06:33 PM

In the past the program has varied as to how many lifestyle visits you were allowed. During time periods when houses weren't selling, they allowed more than one lifestyle visit.

Talk to your rep. If anyone can assist you your rep that you spoke with in January is your best bet.

In the past, after your first lifestyle visit they have sometimes allowed people to "rent" a house or villa on a daily basis which turns out to be a lifestyle visit without the freebies and meal discounts of the lifestyle visit. In fact, some people I have talked to who claimed to have more than one lifestyle visit actually did a rental after their first visit.

NancyLou 05-03-2011 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=decodiana;351640]My sister and I visited in January 2011 but only were able to stay four nights. We were interested in coming again in June to see if we could "stand the heat" and to get to know our way around a little better. We're both still working, and our anticipated move to TV won't be for another 2-3 years, so we're limited to a time when we could both make the trip from NJ.

We are having our second life style visi, well maybe it isn't called a life style visit. We will be in the Villages for only 4 nights this time, 100.00 per night with golf cart and bikes. We stayed two years ago and are even working with another agent this time. We will come for as long as it takes...we are determined to live here.

Nancy & Will

Bill-n-Brillo 05-03-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niels (Post 351650)
In the past the program has varied as to how many lifestyle visits you were allowed. During time periods when houses weren't selling, they allowed more than one lifestyle visit.

Talk to your rep. If anyone can assist you your rep that you spoke with in January is your best bet.

In the past, after your first lifestyle visit they have sometimes allowed people to "rent" a house or villa on a daily basis which turns out to be a lifestyle visit without the freebies and meal discounts of the lifestyle visit. In fact, some people I have talked to who claimed to have more than one lifestyle visit actually did a rental after their first visit.

Ditto.

Bill :)

oot 05-03-2011 06:55 PM

Maybe one of the hotels would work....
 
We did the lifestyle tour the first time we were down there. Only did a four day and regretted it. At that time, you got meals/golf and other goodies.

Since then we have stayed at the Town Center Suites and Comfort Inn. There are a couple of others you can try as well.

We rented a golf cart and drove around to look at the open houses. We also got a real estate agent (Regular agent along with a Villages agent since we want to buy a preowned).

Loved it and plan on buying later this year!

Russ_Boston 05-03-2011 06:59 PM

We did two but only one with freebies. The second one was more of an invite from them since we were finalizing our home selection.

We also rented from private parties three other times.

skyguy79 05-03-2011 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decodiana (Post 351640)
if we stayed at the hotel in Lake Sumter, how would we go about getting passes to tour open houses?

I've seen it mentioned several times here on TOTV that you don't need a pass to get by the gates into villages because the roads are public. So I don't think it would be a problem. Perhaps someone else with a little more knowledge can elaborate on that.

katezbox 05-03-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 351664)
I've seen it mentioned several times here on TOTV that you don't need a pass to get by the gates into villages because the roads are public. So I don't think it would be a problem. Perhaps someone else with a little more knowledge can elaborate on that.

You do not need a pass - just press the buzzer on the "visitor" side of each gate and you will be allowed in. As several others stated, the LS previews allowed vary based on how busy the sales office is. The best bet is to contact your TV sales agent. The rules do change so what happened previously may not be relevant.

Check the Villages 4 rent website that is a sponsor here - you may be surprised at what is available!

Good luck!!!!!

memason 05-03-2011 07:45 PM

We had 3 lifestyle visits over 4 years. We did NOT have the same sales rep for any of the visits. I simply called The Villages and told them I'd like to setup a visit. In every case, they forwarded me to a sales rep or their assistant, who then setup our visit.

If it were me, I would try again and not mention your previous visit or sales rep. If you are specifically asked if you've been here before, then you should tell the truth, but I believe you will still be able to visit again. June and July are not busy months....

kb8tpw 05-03-2011 07:50 PM

Stayed first in 2008, second in 2009. The second time we received less goodies, but that shouldn't be a problem. The Comfort Inn, Holiday Inn Express, and there are others are fairly reasonable and we found to be a good option when we came down to sign contract and before our household goods arrived. There is always the Waterfront Hotel, on site. As has been stated earlier, they seem to be very finicky about the Lifestyle Previews.

clekr 05-03-2011 07:59 PM

The amount of freebies has steady declined over the last four years. We did a tour three times without any problem between '06 and '08. However, it is my understanding that the developer pays for the first one. Any subsequent are at the discretion of the sales agent - because they pay those after the first.

Our first tour we stayed in the LSL preview homes. Each of the others was in a private residence arranged through the sales office/rental management office.

Hal :-) 05-03-2011 08:30 PM

We stayed years ago (8-10, not sure). Then came back again last year. We had no trouble booking the second trip last year a couple of months later. However, we were very serious about buying a new build. Unfortunately, it fell through simply because the contract terms on a new build are ridiculous and I backed out. We're still looking for pre-owned now, like so many recommend here.

The freebies have deteriorated significantly over the years. On our first stay, they had Village Dollars, essentially free money to spend anywhere in TV, and it was practically a free stay. Now it's just a few coupons. $100/nt didn't seem like a great deal to me. It's very convenient due to location and the golf car and such. But it's comparably priced to a hotel. It larger accommodations, but fewer services. A a hotel will clean, change towels, etc. everyday. I would think the would think they would make units readily available to anyone serious about buying. But I doubt they would've given me a fourth stay.

Pturner 05-03-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decodiana (Post 351640)
My sister and I visited in January 2011 but only were able to stay four nights. We were interested in coming again in June to see if we could "stand the heat" and to get to know our way around a little better. We're both still working, and our anticipated move to TV won't be for another 2-3 years, so we're limited to a time when we could both make the trip from NJ.

I entered a chat with an on-line rep on the Villages website and asked about availability for the June dates and referred to the sales rep we had in January. I was told that there is a one-time limit on the Lifestyle visit. That's it...short and not so sweet. So much for the "friendliest hometown" kind of feeling. :(:shocked:

So I guess I have two questions. First, are there folks out there that have done the Lifestyle visit more than once? I'm sure I've read threads that stated that this was possible. We're not looking for any freebees and of course we'll be paying for our home away from home. Secondly, if it's really not possible to get a second visit, if we stayed at the hotel in Lake Sumter, how would we go about getting passes to tour open houses?

Hi Decodiana,
As Kate said, the rules often change and this might be the rule at this time.

However, there could be another reason you were not invited for another lifestyle visit. LSVs are a tool the sales agents use to help them sell new houses. If you told the agent you chatted with that you were interested in touring open houses, and were referring to resales listed by owner or MLS, the agent would have no incentive to invite you for a LSV.

There is no obligation or pressure during an LSV to buy or even look at homes for sale by The Villages. By the same token, there is no obligation by the sales staff to offer you an LSV. It's not for lack of friendliness. It's just that business is business.

If you talk with your original agent or a new one and cannot get another LSV, I'm betting you could find a five-day rental during June. Look on thevillages4rent.com.

Best wishes!

GaDawg 05-03-2011 09:12 PM

We have been able to visit at least 3 times for 4-7 days each. The first was the lifestyle visit where we got all of the "stuff." Technically that is the only one you get. After that our realtor helped us with a village CYV rental which included ID's, golf cart, and bikes. Just contact your realtor and ask. We have also stayed many times at the Waterfront Inn and a few of the other hotels. I have also noticed several patio villas for rent on a weekly basis.

Jhooman 05-03-2011 09:51 PM

We had the first Lifestyle visit with all the bells and whistles. The second one we rented a cyv to pick out our lot And home. They were so accommodating and gracious.

The Villages is the friendliest place and I was sold the first time I visited my Dad five years ago.

Good luck!

Schaumburger 05-04-2011 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by decodiana (Post 351646)
Thanks for the quick response. The only problem is that we're only available for 5 nights. Don't think we can rent a home for that short a period of time...
If it were possible, I'd love to rent an Iris because that's the model we're interested in.

Check on TheVillages4Rent.com if you want a short term rental for the summer. I found a one week rental this July in the Village of Chatham through this web site. Also try ****.com and the classified section, furnished homes for rent, of the on line version of the The Villages Daily Sun newspaper which is thevillagesdailysun.com. You are wise to check out the temps. of TV in the summer. Last summer I visited TV for the first time, and I stayed at the Comfort Inn near Spanish Springs. I visited several open houses by pushing the red button at the entrance gates to the various villages. In July I will be living like a villager for a brief 7 days. Hope to rent again in TV for a week in October. Good luck to you.

hedoman 05-04-2011 03:29 AM

We have friends who were denied also because they had their LSV last year. My guess is if you are truly interested in buying they will extend the courtesy. Our friends couldn't be more obvious that they had no interest as in NOT talking to a sales agent and NOT looking at anything. To them it was a cheap vacation with freebies.........

graciegirl 05-04-2011 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 351702)
Hi Decodiana,
As Kate said, the rules often change and this might be the rule at this time.

However, there could be another reason you were not invited for another lifestyle visit. LSVs are a tool the sales agents use to help them sell new houses. If you told the agent you chatted with that you were interested in touring open houses, and were referring to resales listed by owner or MLS, the agent would have no incentive to invite you for a LSV.

There is no obligation or pressure during an LSV to buy or even look at homes for sale by The Villages. By the same token, there is no obligation by the sales staff to offer you an LSV. It's not for lack of friendliness. It's just that business is business.

If you talk with your original agent or a new one and cannot get another LSV, I'm betting you could find a five-day rental during June. Look on thevillages4rent.com.

Best wishes!

I couldn't have said it better, and I agree with this post. I don't see them advertising on the golf events anymore. The truth is that word of mouth and all of us very satisfied residents are lowering their advertising budget, a good thing for the owners businesswise. Not offering a second lifestyle visit is not meant to be unfriendly I feel sure. The friendliest hometown refers to the feeling you get from the residents. I consider it lovely not to be pressured and not to be even called by the sales staff when we came on our visit. I had to call them, and they didn't even bring up buying a home. Their question was, "What would you like to see or know more about?" After we we shown the golf courses and Arnold Palmer Academy, we said....Aren't you going to show us houses for sale? And we were told, sure, if you want to see them. Even then, no request for buying. No sales pitch. They just answered our questions.

That and the fact that someone we knew for a long time who had bought here and whose judgment we trusted gave us some cold refreshing drinks and YOU, many of YOU who welcomed us, made us fall in love with this wonderful place.

The romance goes on....

They really don't need to pay for people to return for a second tour anymore.
The place and it's residents speak for itself. AND if they don't have to pay for a second tour, why would an extremely good business organization waste its money?? Not unfriendly. Savvy.

So I am saying to you, that if we were there we would love to welcome you to our home and give you something cold to drink and tell you why we love this place and hear what you like and what you are wondering about. We would like every person who is looking for a happy place to live join us here in Paradise.

Welcome!

ssmith 05-04-2011 07:09 AM

another idea
 
We are like you and cannot move for a couple of years. We rent on a weekly basis. I would think there are plenty of opportunities to rent in June. We got our place by asking on this forum under the for rent section.The Villages 4 rent is also good and our realtor has told us to contact him if we needed places to rent also. Also you can get guest passes to participate in the activities at the rec ctrs and pools. The doors are not closed to you!

Ohiogirl 05-04-2011 08:02 AM

agree with renting
 
even if you can only stay 5 nights, you can probably find a weekly rental that will cost the same or less than a hotel room for 5 nights, get the free guest passes from your landlord, and probably even a golf cart included, if you look hard enough. Not all landlords rent on a weekly basis, but many do in the summer, some for even less than a week. Just do your homework.

This way, you'll get to talk to neighbors - you might have to make the effort in the summer, or get up early when people are out doing yard work or walking, biking, etc. Plus, you'll get a feel for a real neighborhood. Try to rent a model that you think you might be interested in buying in the future.

swimdawg 05-04-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal :-) (Post 351701)
We stayed years ago (8-10, not sure). Then came back again last year. We had no trouble booking the second trip last year a couple of months later. However, we were very serious about buying a new build. Unfortunately, it fell through simply because the contract terms on a new build are ridiculous and I backed out. We're still looking for pre-owned now, like so many recommend here.

The freebies have deteriorated significantly over the years. On our first stay, they had Village Dollars, essentially free money to spend anywhere in TV, and it was practically a free stay. Now it's just a few coupons. $100/nt didn't seem like a great deal to me. It's very convenient due to location and the golf car and such. But it's comparably priced to a hotel. It larger accommodations, but fewer services. A a hotel will clean, change towels, etc. everyday. I would think the would think they would make units readily available to anyone serious about buying. But I doubt they would've given me a fourth stay.

I did the LSV in January. There was a time in mid-March when I was thinking of returning........but there was no room at the inn ( LSV villas, hotels, etc.). My sales agent did bend over backwards to try to find something but it wasn't meant to be.

I am curious, Hal, what you mean by "contract terms on a new build are ridiculous". I went thru the new build experience up north 5 years ago and found restrictions...but those restrictions were fair and reasonable. It is different in TV but what do you feel is "ridiculous"?

2BNTV 05-04-2011 08:35 AM

My experience has been the first LSV was no problem and included all the goodies.

The second was a little problamatic as TV did not readily want to give a LSV unless one is serious about buying. I switched my TV sales agent and the new was more accomodating. It did not include as many goodies. As someone said, "the rules changed". I felt as you did that it was treated more like a business transaction. I still think it is the cheapest option rather than staying at the Marriott in Spanish Springs. IMHO - $100 per night is cheap lodging in today's world especially for what TV gives you..

The unfriendliness you felt was the business side of TV and not the wonderful people you will encounter when visiting. The TOTV memebers gave you good advice and I hope you will find a place to stay.

My third trip will be to rent until I buy a home and become a permanet resident. I am soooooooo looking forward to that day. :smiley:

John_W 05-04-2011 12:16 PM

If you're not buying for 2 or 3 years and only want stay for about 5 days, what' wrong with any of the four motels in TV near Spanish Springs on Avenida Central. You've got Holiday Inn Express, Comfort Suite, Towneplace Suites and La Hicienda Hotel.

As a coincidence, we arrived home last week from our 7 day LSV and our agent called a couple of hours ago and asked how we were doing. I informed him I'm doing some minor work and we should have the home on the market next week. Then I asked when we get a contract and come down to put a deposit on a home, can I make it a LSV trip. He said, yes, we have a return LSV available for buyers who are ready to put a deposit down.

batman911 05-04-2011 12:51 PM

Now I feel really blessed. We have enjoyed 3 LSVs. We did not receive all the free items on the last visit but we did not expect TV to even let us have a third LSV so no complaints. After visiting a lot of higher priced retirement communities in Naples, Palm Beach and near TV, we were initially disappointed in the homes offered in TV. We visited TV the next year because we had enjoyed the life style (**** kool aid kicking in) and wanted to take a second look at the homes. Decided that TV was the place for us because we are outside people and do not plan to stay in the house all day anyways. We visited again the following year with my sister to show them our future retirement home. Our sales agent has been very helpful and cooperative through out this long process. Only one visit left to rent for a month or so in the model we want to buy before we write the check. I wonder if the type of home you are seeking has anything to do with how many LSVs you get. Also may depend on the length of your first visit. We only stayed 3 days on our first visit and 4 days on the second because we were visiting other communities all over Florida.

ssmith 05-04-2011 04:16 PM

yep
 
John W...nothing is wrong with staying in the hotels...we have done that also....we just love renting a home to get the feel of being a "real Villager". Also it is nice to be able to relax in a home like atmosphere and to cook ...but only when you want to cook!!!

bevlaur 05-04-2011 04:19 PM

If you are truly interested in buying then the LSV is fine, but not 2,3,4 times. Have also heard many times of people telling their friends "just do the LSV, it is a cheap vacation with all the freebies." Actually glad TV cutting down on LSV for those not really interested in buying, just to "use" the facilities. So many forget that people actually LIVE here - how would many of the "vacationers" feel if people just dropped in to where THEY live, and treated like a resort with no consideration for residents. If one rents it is one thing as the actual owner is paying their share of TV upkeep through amenities, but the LSVrs are just taking and taking.

decodiana 05-04-2011 05:23 PM

Thanks for everyone's input. I got it straighted out when I spoke directly with my sales rep. She was very apologetic about the curt response I first received. We're booked for the dates in June that fit both of our schedules.

As I stated, we are not interested in any freebees; we don't golf (yet) and didn't even use a single coupon the first time we visited. We were just so overwhelmed at the size of TV, and we spent most of our time driving around! We ditched that very slow golf cart and used the car. Now we have a game plan and know what we're going to look for. I was told that there would be some new model homes available for us to see because the models we toured in January are in the process of being sold.

We DO plan to buy in TV. Our horizon is 2-3 years, but if we're able to do it in 2 years, we'll be picking out a lot next year. Right now we're leaning toward the Iris model which has everything we think we want, but we just want to be sure. The privacy of the CYV's is nice, but I'm afraid for us they may be too small as we're downsizing from a 3500 square foot home. I'll have to sell my home in NJ before settlement, so we will need to rent down there until our TV home is completed.

Thanks again for all your comments!!:thumbup:

Russ_Boston 05-04-2011 05:55 PM

Tell the guys at the cart rental that you have some experience in driving the cart and they can find one that will at least keep up.

Schaumburger 05-04-2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decodiana (Post 351896)
Thanks for everyone's input. I got it straighted out when I spoke directly with my sales rep. She was very apologetic about the curt response I first received. We're booked for the dates in June that fit both of our schedules.

As I stated, we are not interested in any freebees; we don't golf (yet) and didn't even use a single coupon the first time we visited. We were just so overwhelmed at the size of TV, and we spent most of our time driving around! We ditched that very slow golf cart and used the car. Now we have a game plan and know what we're going to look for. I was told that there would be some new model homes available for us to see because the models we toured in January are in the process of being sold.

We DO plan to buy in TV. Our horizon is 2-3 years, but if we're able to do it in 2 years, we'll be picking out a lot next year. Right now we're leaning toward the Iris model which has everything we think we want, but we just want to be sure. The privacy of the CYV's is nice, but I'm afraid for us they may be too small as we're downsizing from a 3500 square foot home. I'll have to sell my home in NJ before settlement, so we will need to rent down there until our TV home is completed.

Thanks again for all your comments!!:thumbup:

Decodiana, I'm glad you were able to get another LSV for June. It looks like the first village south of 466A, the Village of Sanibel, is now open for those who wish to purchase lots. Wonder who will be the first person to build and move into the Village of Sanibel? Enjoy your time in TV.

Bosoxfan 05-04-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 351728)
We have friends who were denied also because they had their LSV last year. My guess is if you are truly interested in buying they will extend the courtesy. Our friends couldn't be more obvious that they had no interest as in NOT talking to a sales agent and NOT looking at anything. To them it was a cheap vacation with freebies.........

:BigApplause:

Bosoxfan 05-04-2011 10:53 PM

:mademyday:
Quote:

Originally Posted by bevlaur (Post 351886)
If you are truly interested in buying then the LSV is fine, but not 2,3,4 times. Have also heard many times of people telling their friends "just do the LSV, it is a cheap vacation with all the freebies." Actually glad TV cutting down on LSV for those not really interested in buying, just to "use" the facilities. So many forget that people actually LIVE here - how would many of the "vacationers" feel if people just dropped in to where THEY live, and treated like a resort with no consideration for residents. If one rents it is one thing as the actual owner is paying their share of TV upkeep through amenities, but the LSVrs are just taking and taking.

:BigApplause:

BigLew 05-06-2011 08:57 AM

Really? are you kidding me?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bevlaur (Post 351886)
If you are truly interested in buying then the LSV is fine, but not 2,3,4 times. Have also heard many times of people telling their friends "just do the LSV, it is a cheap vacation with all the freebies." Actually glad TV cutting down on LSV for those not really interested in buying, just to "use" the facilities. So many forget that people actually LIVE here - how would many of the "vacationers" feel if people just dropped in to where THEY live, and treated like a resort with no consideration for residents. If one rents it is one thing as the actual owner is paying their share of TV upkeep through amenities, but the LSVrs are just taking and taking.

yes you've heard people say that and what exactly is wrong with that? People just coming on the LSV for a vacation are called something else as well....HOMEBUYERS! How do you think many of us wound up here? This IS a resort and the facilities are meant to be used. What's your problem with that crowds? the crowds are seasonal HOMEOWNERS who are down in the winter to use THEIR homes and facilities. Every LSV unit represents a saleable unit that will pay its bond and amenities fees so where's the taking, taking. taking I just hear rude, selfish, selfish!:cry:

graciegirl 05-06-2011 09:45 AM

It is all a matter of how you look at it. I would just plain be embarassed to take more than a couple of free lifestyle visits.

And as I pointed out, the properties are selling so well that the owners no longer feel the need to offer more than a couple.

bluedog103 05-06-2011 09:54 AM

There's nothing free about the lifestyle visits anymore. I don't think there are even any meals included, just some discount coupons.
I don't even encourage friends to use the LSV program. They stay with us or even in a hotel, since I think most everyone gets hotel discounts anymore.
The villas they put you in are certainly larger than a hotel room or even our guest room but when we visited on our two LSVs we spent very little time in the villa.

Bill-n-Brillo 05-06-2011 10:03 AM

It's a fine line for TV sales folks, I'm sure, to try to determine if someone's just wanting to take an "inexpensive vacation" via repeat LSVs (with absolutely zero intention of buying) or if they're arguably potential buyers, even if it's at some point way in the future.

You just never know, though, when someone's going to change their mindset on when they might buy - it happened to us!!! We only took one LSV several years ago - we liked the freedom to be completely "on our own" for our subsequent TV trips and really had no interest in further LSVs. We even turned down an offer from a TV "Guest Coordinator" for another one sans all the perks. And we knew we could contact our TV sales rep anytime we wanted.

Bill


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