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Guest 05-21-2011 10:39 PM

Herman Cain declares his candidacy
 
He's going to make it interesting. I have a feeling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0ZC...bedded#at=1624

Guest 05-21-2011 11:38 PM

well received
 
mr. cain was very well received here on thursday night when people had to be turned away at mulberry grove rec center...he seems to have the common sense leadership style which has served him well at corporate levels and on boards of many organizations. we could really use a man of his calibre to run our country and bring it back to economic and moral health.

Guest 05-22-2011 06:35 AM

Cain has zero chance.

Guest 05-22-2011 07:26 AM

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Cain has zero chance.

I honestly believe you to be correct on this one.

Xavier :wave:

Guest 05-22-2011 08:27 AM

I agree completely that Cain, while he may sound good, has no chance of receiving the Republican nomination.

Guest 05-22-2011 10:30 AM

He has top the list over all other GOP candidates.

Guest 05-22-2011 10:51 AM

Well, Rubicon, it is way too early to say who will be the Republican candidate for President and VP. Actually, too early to say if Joe Biden will be invited to stick on for Democrat VP.

If the GOP wants a chance to win, they will not pick Cain, Palin, Bachmann, or any wing-nuts. They will have to go with someone more middle of the road.

Guest 05-22-2011 11:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 356346)
Well, Rubicon, it is way too early to say who will be the Republican candidate for President and VP. Actually, too early to say if Joe Biden will be invited to stick on for Democrat VP.

If the GOP wants a chance to win, they will not pick Cain, Palin, Bachmann, or any wing-nuts. They will have to go with someone more middle of the road.

The majority of Americans don't desire "middle of the road". They desire a strong true American leader espousing strong traditional American values who will bring America back from the brink of disaster. That's the man or woman who will rise to the top. There's lots of time yet.

Guest 05-22-2011 11:31 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 356351)
The majority of Americans don't desire "middle of the road". They desire a strong true American leader espousing strong traditional American values who will bring America back from the brink of disaster. That's the man or woman who will rise to the top. There's lots of time yet.

I agree with you, but you are a little confused - you're thinking of the 2008 election. Yes we can.

Xavier

Guest 05-22-2011 11:47 AM

You also had a feeling
 
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He's going to make it interesting. I have a feeling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0ZC...bedded#at=1624

that Christine O'Donnell would win, and that Palin could win the presidency. I have a feeling that your feelings are based on wishful thinking.

Guest 05-22-2011 12:42 PM

I had forgotten about Christine O'Donnell. Have not heard anything about her recently. Maybe she and her coven went for a long broomstick ride.

The majority of Americans do desire middle of the road. Of course, on this forum, it seems that the best candidates would espouse the characteristics of Juan Peron and Francisco Franco. Well, Michelle Bachmann seems to be holding many of their characteristics right now. Sarah Palin is doing a good job also (but either of them would have to look up those names in their Funk & Wagnals).

Guest 05-22-2011 12:48 PM

Sorry, but we have stepped back
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 356351)
The majority of Americans don't desire "middle of the road". They desire a strong true American leader espousing strong traditional American values who will bring America back from the brink of disaster. That's the man or woman who will rise to the top. There's lots of time yet.

at least economically from the brink of disaster. We were on the brink of disaster in 2008 when it looked like our banking system was going to collapse, and we were in the worst recession in a generation.

Guest 05-22-2011 01:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 356351)
The majority of Americans don't desire "middle of the road". They desire a strong true American leader espousing strong traditional American values who will bring America back from the brink of disaster. That's the man or woman who will rise to the top. There's lots of time yet.

I might agree with the "strong leader" but disagree that we are on the brink of disaster and that Americans don't want "middle of the road". A wingnut like Bachmann or Palin or even Santorum have zero chance. Zero. :doh:

Guest 05-22-2011 02:09 PM

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that Christine O'Donnell would win, and that Palin could win the presidency. I have a feeling that your feelings are based on wishful thinking.

I don't remember thinking O'Donnell would win; for a while it was close and I was hoping. I do admire Palin, but I don't think she could win because of the media frenzy she elicits every time she surfaces.

I'm still am extremely flattered to be the focus of so much liberal angst on this forum. Thank You.

Guest 05-22-2011 02:10 PM

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I might agree with the "strong leader" but disagree that we are on the brink of disaster and that Americans don't want "middle of the road". A wingnut like Bachmann or Palin or even Santorum have zero chance. Zero. :doh:

Wing-nut comments leave me discounting your opinion.

Guest 05-22-2011 02:29 PM

As I recall Mr. Fred Smith was considered a "wingnut" when he submitted his college dessertation on his business model according to a conversation I had with his accountant when living in Memphis. Its known in America as Federal Express. So I guess I will hold back my opinion of any candidate and refrain from any label.

Tbug is right its too early yet and we will have to see how it all shakes out. Heck there may even be a prospect who will challenge the Democratic incumbent? I mean stranger things have happened. Al Franken has higher ambitions

Guest 05-22-2011 03:20 PM

Watching his speech when he announced, I thought he got just a little to close to the DEAN thing when Dean won a primary. Although evrything he said was true and I think that he would really be good for the country. I am tired of the Middle Of The Road politicans. We need someone who looks out for America first and the rest of the world second. Charity starts at home. Cain just might have a chance. Especially of the economy is in the toilet and unemployment is higher that it is now. So far only Paul and Cain have really said anything that makes sense. The rest are from the same ole party. Let's spend more and more and tax those that work more and more. Me I am tired of supporting lazy folks, I believe in the saying "You Don't Work, You Don't Eat."

Guest 05-22-2011 03:49 PM

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I'm still am extremely flattered to be the focus of so much liberal angst on this forum. Thank You.

I knew you were in need of attention. Even negative attention is better than no attention at all. We are here for you. :wave:

Guest 05-22-2011 04:41 PM

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Wing-nut comments leave me discounting your opinion.

Doesn't take the word "wing-nut" for you to discount my opinion.

Guest 05-22-2011 04:58 PM

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I knew you were in need of attention. Even negative attention is better than no attention at all. We are here for you. :wave:

Thanks buddy.

Guest 05-22-2011 05:00 PM

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Doesn't take the word "wing-nut" for you to discount my opinion.

That certainly true, of late. Mostly, I think, because you don't always give opinions but just wisecracks or insults.

Guest 05-22-2011 07:05 PM

It's Easy
 
I don't know much about Herman Cain...nothing at all, really. But if he is to be a legitimate potential GOP candidate, all he needs to do is win or do well in the first few primaries. If he does that, he'll be a force. If he doesn't he won't.

Guest 05-23-2011 06:40 AM

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That certainly true, of late. Mostly, I think, because you don't always give opinions but just wisecracks or insults.

I do that mostly to point out how ludicrous and divisive our country has become in its politics. Both sides firmly entrenched. Arguments becoming more personal than objective. Half truths and outright lies prevailing. And this forum is but a microcosm of the entire country. :doh:

Guest 05-23-2011 06:41 AM

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That certainly true, of late. Mostly, I think, because you don't always give opinions but just wisecracks or insults.

Back to character. It's wisecracks and insults vs. lies and delusions. :doh:

Guest 05-23-2011 08:00 AM

Do Well?
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 356479)
I don't know much about Herman Cain...nothing at all, really. But if he is to be a legitimate potential GOP candidate, all he needs to do is win or do well in the first few primaries. If he does that, he'll be a force. If he doesn't he won't.

How about being the most standout of the first debate of possibles.

Expect good things from the "Hermanator" quickly, even though, as Herman Cain said in The Villages the other night, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN etc won't even acknowledge that he exist.

Typical though.

Guest 05-23-2011 09:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 356579)
Back to character. It's wisecracks and insults vs. lies and delusions. :doh:

What you disagree with me about does not make what I say "lies". You can disagree with my point of view or my opinion, but that still doesn't make what I say "lies". It's just a lazy way of discounting what I say when you cannot refute it.

"Delusions"; that is a more honest response than saying I tell lies. At least that's just your opinion and you're entitled to that. Try having a conversation and expressing your opinion rather that just insulting people. You'll find people will take you more seriously and maybe even listen to you. Wouldn't you like that?

Guest 05-23-2011 09:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 356594)
How about being the most standout of the first debate of possibles.

Expect good things from the "Hermanator" quickly, even though, as Herman Cain said in The Villages the other night, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN etc won't even acknowledge that he exist.

Typical though.

He's has tons of charisma and speaks no nonsense common sense that the American people will eat up the more they listen to him. His many years of public speaking has well prepared himself for the presidential campaign trail and his business acumen and experience will serve him well in this time of economic upheaval and the people's fear for the future.

He still has not spoke to the specifics of any future platform but, in time, I'm guessing he will have to if he gains much traction. He might be saving it for the future build-up of his campaign, or he and his people haven't worked it all out yet.

Still, it's good to have this guy in the mix. He WILL make it more interesting.

Guest 05-23-2011 10:12 AM

What you are saying about Herman Cain is that he is a very good speaker and has charisma (as does Barak Obama); many years of business experience (he can sell pizza); has not spoken of any specific planks in a platform (we do not have any idea of what he specifically wants to do as President - just bashing the current President); and he and his people have not yet worked out what he wants to accomplish as President.
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Herman Cain is certainly a very intelligent man with his business background at Godfather's Pizza and also being Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.

I actually might vote for Cain when and if he gets specific on his platform. If he is not too right from center, a lot of current independent voters will go over to a new person.

Guest 05-23-2011 10:47 AM

Here is over 28 minutes of Herman Cain. Now nobody can say they do not know anything about him.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkacOveF0[/ame]

Guest 05-23-2011 01:27 PM

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Here is over 28 minutes of Herman Cain. Now nobody can say they do not know anything about him.

28 minutes - I don't know as I could sit still that long. Do you have the Cliffs Notes?

Xavier :wave: :wave: :wave:

Guest 05-23-2011 02:44 PM

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What you disagree with me about does not make what I say "lies". You can disagree with my point of view or my opinion, but that still doesn't make what I say "lies". It's just a lazy way of discounting what I say when you cannot refute it.

"Delusions"; that is a more honest response than saying I tell lies. At least that's just your opinion and you're entitled to that. Try having a conversation and expressing your opinion rather that just insulting people. You'll find people will take you more seriously and maybe even listen to you. Wouldn't you like that?

I've never taken myself too seriously so why would I want anyone else to. But you're right and it's really out of my usual character to be such a jerk. I just get so doggone frustrated that we can't seem to "just all get along" and do positive things for this country rather than always harping and sniping. Probably both the right and the left have something to offer but, unfortunately, never the twain shall meet. I'm done now.

Guest 05-23-2011 03:07 PM

Herman Cain polled better than double to every other GOP possibility. Poll complied by AFA


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