Police Bashing Forum
 

Dear Mr. Talk Host, I think the time has come to add a new forum category titled either "Police Bashers Association (PBA), or perhaps Dunkin Donut Talk (DDT). That way, everyone on TOTV who has been mistreated, wrongfully wronged, denied their rights as a citizen of the Villages --you know, where the law really shouldn't apply-- or any other form of police harassment can air their grievances.

That way, all of the topics involving unjustified check points, speed traps, improperly posted speed limits etc, can be neatly filed in one place.

If you are interested in starting up this new category, meet me at DD tomorrow for coffee and we can further discuss this as I'm always willing to assist.

Chief X

You have to forgive the winers of TV. Seems there are becoming more and more of them. As the rest of the world is, the laws apply to the other guy but not me.

To bad all have to waste the days they have left fighting and complaining rather than enjoying what the good Lord has given them.

aj

There is a other option, stay with the law. Is this so hard to do?

The new forum idea is great. Perhaps we can call it Police In The Streets, PITS. Or Problem Orientated and Organized Policing Investigators, better known as POOPI.

Great idea!
 

Chief X, that is a great idea. Far too many folks whine about all those police out there abusing the general population with all those grey areas in the rules. Until they need one! Time to man up when you break a law n get pulled over. No whining........except in the new category. And Chief, I take it you were a Police Chief, Thank you for your service, sir!

Whiners
 

SO glad to hear Chief "X" comments. My husband is a retired Law Officer and if all those complainers would stop and think, when THEY need(ed) an officer to uphold the law on their behalf, perhaps the shoe would be on the other foot. Not to mention when an officer has the sad duty to inform families of the loss of their loved ones, or to remain professional at the scene of a deadly accident, then come home to pick up their own lives as if nothing was out of the ordinary. I could go on, chapter and verse, but suffice it to say, we are all blessed to live in TV, and we should be grateful for all we have. Not spend our time wingding and whining over the issuance of tickets - probably correctly issued in the first place. Whew, Glad I vented.

Amen...and well thought out and said!!!!

Glad to see I'm not the only one who is tired of hearing people whining.

aj

Why not a forum for Retired or Active people of Police Officer Status --- Then they can whine about the people who whine about them.

Thank you for posting. A good idea.

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Great idea. When in trouble call a hippie.

We are moving to TV because we are retired. I am never in a hurry anymore. Don't speed and you won't get a ticket.

Cheif X, would like to meet you when we get there, will leave a message here on the board. I remember what my FTO told me when I started in civilian Law Enforcement after 16 years of military law enforcement. If you can't obey the law you can't enforce the law.

My biggest complain about the current crop of LEOs is that they don't obey the law, but they are quick to enforce the law. If you, a LEO, do a California roll through a stop sign, don't give tickets to those that do. If you speed through a School Zone, don't give tickets to those that do, etc. I think that you get my point.

If a PBA forum were started, how long would it take before someone asked, "if I'm sitting in my golf cart at a town square and munching on a box of Duncan Donuts, could I be given a ticket for impersonating an officer? :oops: I know what my answer would be, but I'll give others a chance to indicate theirs if they wish to!

Interesting comment for this thread. I presume you are an active or retired law enforcement officer...

Just saying :confused:

whats the PBA union have to do with anything?

I love it when people whine about people who whine. Seriously, it tickles my funny bone.

I don't recall saying anything thing about any PBA union! Please re-read my post and if you still don't understand my comments, I suggest you go back and read Chief X's original post!

i thought you were referring to the police benevolent association...ie union

No, not at all! But I can see where you would have mistakenly thought that! Anyway, I hope you now see the humor in what I posted and realize that it nothing sinister...
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...and was in the spirit of what the OP was doing!

I'm stickin' with my favorite stuff........staying away from the donuts........

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Bill :)

memason,

Just an old saying that goes back to the 60s when hippidom was in style and being a Law Enforcement Officer was way out of style.

You must not be old enough to remember the hippie days.

Figmo,

I think you are really going to enjoy being a Villager. Even though Wildwood has a fairly high crime rate and Fruitland Park does too, it does not reach into The Villages. There has not been a violent crime in a long, long time. Last one I remember was a domestic dispute when a woman shot her husband. Both were retired LEO's. One other about 2 years before that was because of a young daughter living at home and involved with drugs. Led to murder. 2 violent crimes in a community of about 80,000 in 4 years is not too bad.

It is a far cry from your part of New Mexico. No need for "packing heat" here at all. Basically only crimes around here are a few break-ins when people are gone for the season. There is also speeding and some DUI's.

It is comical to hear some people complain about the bad element of "roving gangs of teens" on the town squares after 9 pm. These are kids staying with Grandma and Grampa for a few weeks in the summer and don't want to go to bed at 9:30.

You are going to adjust mighty quickly and will love it here.

With all due respect there is one statement you made above that I would challange.

According to the latest 10 year figures available at city-data.com the crime rate for Fruitland park is below average. The national average crime index is 319.2 and Fruitland Park has fallen below that mark on each and every year. On the other hand you are correct about Wildwood where the their index has fallen consistantly well above that national mark without exception!

Where you're really on the mark is in that Figmo is "really going to enjoy being a Villager!" :clap2:

I try to do my level best to be a good citizen and a patient driver.
I respect our police, it's a tough tough job.

there are a lot of whiners, I'll agree with that.
somehow the law and rules don't apply to them

Your due respect is noted and I stand corrected about Fruitland Park.

First, I respect the law and hence generally respect those who have the difficult task of its enforcement. However, not all people who complain about being mistreated by the police are wrong. Further there are not too many professions or occupations that do not get there share of criticism, banks, insurance companies , law firms, brokerage firms, numerous manufacturers and even the military armed forces. And for most of them criticism comes with the territory, is unfair but can never be successfuly defended

However, it is unrealistic to think, for instance, that the stealth tactics taken by police enforcement to trap speeders would be looked upon by all as acceptable. But you can never argue this point because "public safety claims' will defeat and hence deflect any reasonable arguments you may have. To wit look at the commentary Chief X received as a result of his original post. Anyone complaining is simply a whiner. You will never hear anyone say that the officer lacked training and/or experience or is just plainly a wise guy. The operative word is "police" which translates into "absolute" and when you are dealing with absolute thinking you can never fairly debate let alone win. That is why an individual cannot plead "no contest" to a speeding ticket which I believe is unconstitutional. You have to either plead guilty or not guilty and if you choose the latter you are forced to court. If you received that ticket in another State it means you have to travel back to that state to defend your position. In some situations if you challenge a ticket and lose you will face some sort of punitive damages.