If He Runs; The Next President of the United States.
 

This is the man who is going to enthrall the American public like no one has since Ronald Reagan. This outstanding governor of the State Of Texas is a great orator of our American values and will be the President of the U.S. in 2012 if he chooses to accept the nomination.

I've linked a website which has a video of the stirring 20 minute speech this man, Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, gave at the Repubican Leadership Conference today, June 18th, in Louisiana.

I'm pretty sure all of our TOTV resident "rooted" liberals will gag and/or attack him or me or both, but I didn't post this thread for them. I've posted it and the link for those who need real "hope" for a real "change".

(I'm kind of liking the sound of "Rick Perry / Michele Bachmann 2012")

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2...with_them.html

I'm Willing To LIsten
 

Given my desire not to vote for any incumbents, I've been quite disappointed with the 'GOP field' so far. With the exception of Romney. I'd really like it if Chris Christie and/or Michael Bloomberg would throw their hats in the ring, but that doesn't look like it will happen.

I'm willing to listen to what Perry has to say. Initially, I thought he was a little too far over the right edge for me, but I'm certainly willing to listen and compare him to Romney on the values and plans they propose. I will be listening for some specifics, not the platitudes that are so often prevalent in political campaigning.


Let's see what happens.

Dang it, Richie, do I get to be the first long-haired, love-beaded hippie to reply to your posting about Rick Perry?

His problem for the Presidency may be that he is governor of Texas. George W. Bush once held that office and was elected to be President. The link between governor of Texas and President just may turn off voters because a lot of Americans, and no small number of Republican primary voters, reminisce about the last Bush presidency the way they might about, say, once having contracted shingles.

I am not saying Perry is a bad choice - but it will be an uphill battle for him to get the nomination and then to win.

One Out Of Three??
 

Yeah and before Dubya, there was Lyndon and Ike.

Hey, one out of three ain't too bad!

Lyndon?

Johnson or LaRouche? :)

I'm hope it's not Johnson and the Great Society you're praising. Please tell me I'm mistaken.

I don't think so
 

I'm a republican through and through. I lived in Texas when Bush was governor and Perry was Lt. governor. Neither one of them was any good. Christie or Rubio would get my vote, if either ran. No one on the current GOP slate is exceptionally impressive. I am watching Pawlenty, however. I reiterate that I think Cain could offer a conservative alternative to Obama, but Cain did not show particularly well in the debate this past Monday.

New Jersey voters would not vote for Christie for President by a recent survey, and you say you're not enamored with your governor as a presidential candidate. It's a funny thing.

Great post Richie. He's one of my favorites. I've had my ears and eyes on Rick Perry for a while now. He's steadfast in his beliefs. Not everybody like him. Some people don't have the American dream. They dream of changing America and taking us further away from the values and conservative beliefs that believe in individual freedoms. That's okay if they think like that. It keeps everyone on their toes. To me it makes our lives all the more precious and makes me more aware of what I am being asked to give up and give away.

I forgot to say: Power to the people. I think Jesus said that.

So did Progressive Auto Insurance, John Lennon, the Black Panthers, Viet Nam war protesters, The Pakistan Peoples Party, James Brown, Rage Against The Machine & Public Enemy. :yuck:

Ike
 

You're mistaken. Ike accomplished a whole lot and got very little credit for it.

Whew!; I agree.

VK, We often disagree but this time I am in full agreement with you. Ike had the abilities to see the big picture, do what was right for the US and bring along our allies. He oversaw one of the most prosperous and productive eras in American History and laid the groundwork for Kennedy's famous tax cuts and facing down of the USSR in the Cuban Missile crisis. He rejected the French appeal to go into Vietnam and cautioned against ever becoming involved in a war in SE Asia. We remember him most for his Farewell Address and his caution against the Militatary-Industrial complex.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/spee...rfarewell.html

I urge everyone on this board to take the time to read (and hopefully listen to) these very wise addressed to this nation.

The urge to be careful of the influence of the Military-Industrial complex has been met. It is no longer an overwhelming driver of our economy and is less than half of the GDP in this country that it was in Ike’s time.

He had other cautions for us that we have ignored. The first of these was the danger that public policy could become the policy of a scientific-technological elite. This has come true in the death of tens of millions of people and incalculable expenditures in the blind following of the environmentalist movement.

Another was what he termed the element of time. He urged that, “…you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage.” One can only wonder what he would think of a United States that piles on trillions upon trillions of debt for our grandchildren to deal with.

Again, take the ten minutes to listen to what he said in less than 2,000 words. IMHO, this is the clearest challenge to the American people since the Gettysburg Address.

And by virtue of the reasoning presented why Perry may not be acceptable....there will never be another black POTUS....eh?

btk

Just what the voters
 

are pining for, another right wing, born again Republican governor from Texas.

Exactly right!; the fog is finally lifting. Good for you, Actor!

If He runs
 

He is a Bush Clone. What we don't need is another W in The white house . His Dad was good. He was incompetent.

As I stated before, the mention of Bush, Texas, Governor, and President is kind of like bringing up shingles contagion being a good thing.

Hopefully, the American voters are smart enough to equate another right wing Texax goobernator as President is a dumb idea.

If Perry dont like how it is done, he can secede from the Union.

Bugs; on this issue you and JFlynn are a bit clueless, but that's just the kool-aid wearing off, I guess. When the American electorate hear Gov. Perry speak to them, they will know he's the real deal and not a lying piece of........like our current President. Just relax guys and we'll save the country for your grandchildren.

Every once in a while your anger and hatred come to the fore. It does not become you. :yuck:

Mine And Yours
 

Too bad you're letting your emotions get out in front of an examination of the issues, Richie. If I recall correctly, President Obama won election fair and square, in the democratic process we all value. He's my President for sure. And he's yours too, whether you like it or not. It seems to me that little is gained by vitriolic, vulgar and profane personal attacks.

You'll have a chance to choose someone else for President in 2012. Between now and then I plan on listening to the issues and arguments that prospective candidates set forth justifying their candidacy for the office. I'll be turned off by those who do little else than negative campaigning against their opponents, minimizing any specificity on how they would do things better. I hope you consider a similar position.

As I said before, I'll listen to Governor Perry, to his positions on issues and his plans for the country. If he falls into the same trap as you have in doing little more than criticizing the man who is the fairly elected leader of our country, he'll likely lose any support I might have had very quickly.

Anger??; no anger or hatred in my post. You're getting delirious Dale.

Oh please, get off the high horse. I give as much respect, and probably more, to this president as Democrats gave the former president of the U.S. I disagree with this president on most things, and I'll give nobody blind allegiance as you suggest I should do.

If you want a litany of the almost too numerable lies told by this President to the American people, let me know. I definitely can relate them

Village Kahuna you ARE the voice of reason
 

So good to read your political comments....Thanks

I happen to think
 

that I'm through with the TOTV political forum for good this time. When I have to read a comment from a classless fool calling the President a lying pos, I know this forum is a complete waste of time.

You can't take it when it's someone you admire. You are quick to defame the people you don't like though, aren't you? (do I have name them?)

You've said as much or worse about people in the government arena than I have. You have a good case of selective outrage.

But, then again; don't go away mad, just go.

It really doesnt matter who runs on the repub. ticket we cant afford this president anymore he has to go. And doesnt matter who it is I would say it about any one. Save the good old USA. Of course if a repub. does the same as this guy we are lost have to move to -----------------

:yuck:That is so despicable and disrespectful I believe you are the pos Richie. I am delirious and also totally done with this political board. Carry on with your hatred. Fortunately, most Americans do not believe what you do. :yuck:

I have been a registered Republican following the election of JFK. Like most I learned that as a citizen I should always respect the office of President. However, what do you do when the man in office[I] is not deserving of respect. I had no respect for Nixon and hence he was not my president. Likewise i have no respect for Obama and hence he is not my president. And like Nixon, Obama lacks credibility only in Obama's case it stretches across economic and foreign policies failed policies

The thread however is about Rick Perry. From what I can gather Rick Perry's platform fits with mine. And for that matter, so does Michele Bachmann

So I like Richielion's Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann or a combination within

The problem with Perry's campaign is that he may wait too long and not be able to raise enough capital?

Dale,

Come back, please. The proud, the few, and the lonely bleeding heart liberals need you. That leaves just me and Actor to take on the hordes of conservatives trying to overrun the TOTV forum.

Tbug I agree with you DaleMN offered some balanced rebuttal and I hate to see him drop out. However, he may have made that claim because he enjoying all that clean air in MN....

ha ha ha ha

Bugs; it seems that Actor and Dale are so enraged that I have the "audacity" (Obama word used on purpose) to criticize their loved one (The One) that both of them have promised to leave and not let the door hit them on the way out.

2 guys who cursed out the former president, who I admire, and they can't take it when the situation is reversed.

It's just too, too delicious and wonderfully ironic.

Maybe both Actor and Dale should learn the laid back style of The Villages - tempered with a little bit of Johnnie Walker Black Label. Helps me quite a bit when things get too serious.

Excellent point. It's more of a Jim Beam or Benchmark thing with me, but the winding down effect is pretty close, I'm sure.

I'll join you with a JWBlack. After all, if it was good enough for Churchill, it's good enough for me.

Why Don't We Bring This Ridiculous Thread To An End?
 

I'm laying 50 to 1 that Rick Perry will not be the next President of the United States (as proposed by Richie in the title and his continuing rants).

Any takers? If not, why not just shut up and get on to more important discussions?

Pompous

1. Characterized by excessive self-esteem or exaggerated dignity; pretentious: pompous officials who enjoy giving orders.
2. Full of high-sounding phrases; bombastic: a pompous proclamation.
3. Chracterized by pomp or stately display; ceremonious:

I'll Take That Bet
 

At 50 to 1, I'll put up $100. Still game VK?