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Guest 08-07-2011 03:49 PM

Why is this happening
 
In 1913 the Federal Reserve was formed, in 1932 appx the face of the dollar bill was changed implyng a one order world . In 1950 Paul Warburg stated that there will be a one government world in 1992 GB senior stated that a one order world will come about. You now have the common currency in Europe and you can travel from country to country with out a border crossing check. The climate change propaganda spans all borders with the internet there are no borders. Now you have the tear down of the greatest nation of modern time with monitary system being torn apart which will bring the country to its knees . All this is leading to the one govenment world. Control the money you contrl the world. I am beginning to beleive that all this has been planned for 100 hundred years. Can any one change or stop it not a chance. This isnt because of any party, but watsh closely this will happen in our life time,so get use to it and be willing to adpapt because it is going to happen. Call me nuts thats ok but look deeper for yourself and see if that is not where we are headed. Please no replies just do the math as they say.

Guest 08-07-2011 04:32 PM

I'll never forget when Bush senior was giving a speech on television and he mentioned a one world order. I screamed to my wife, "Did I just hear that right, One World Order?"

The Progressives(socialists) have had that on their grocery list for a long time. Don't forget that they also want to eliminate God from our society, too.

Guest 08-07-2011 04:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 378881)
I'll never forget when Bush senior was giving a speech on television and he mentioned a one world order. I screamed to my wife, "Did I just hear that right, One World Order?"

The Progressives(socialists) have had that on their grocery list for a long time. Don't forget that they also want to eliminate God from our society, too.

Now that is funny.... the Dems want to eliminate God. Actually this Democrat would like to see the constitution mandate for separation of church and state upheld. You can pray to any GOD you want.....

Guest 08-07-2011 04:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 378888)
Now that is funny.... the Dems want to eliminate God. Actually this Democrat would like to see the constitution mandate for separation of church and state upheld. You can pray to any GOD you want.....

It is in there somewhere. You don't see any state-run churches do you? Sheeeesh.

Guest 08-07-2011 04:54 PM

My beginning of this is not saying of dem or rep it is just where we are headed
the powers to be are not of dems or rep. A good website to look at is www.understandthetimes.org What this is and you will laugh is the antichrist. We will end up and are close to a cashless society. Start reading this because I don't think we can change it. By the way watch China very closly and watch Europe after all they have been through this and China is only begun. According to the Myan 2012 will be an end of an age and yes it will be. The US dollar will no longer rign supeme. Our inflation will go up appx. 20 30 percent over night watch and see if I'm wrong.

Guest 08-07-2011 07:19 PM

Interesting Observation
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 378855)
In 1913 the Federal Reserve was formed, in 1932 appx the face of the dollar bill was changed implyng a one order world . In 1950 Paul Warburg stated that there will be a one government world in 1992 GB senior stated that a one order world will come about. You now have the common currency in Europe and you can travel from country to country with out a border crossing check. The climate change propaganda spans all borders with the internet there are no borders. Now you have the tear down of the greatest nation of modern time with monitary system being torn apart which will bring the country to its knees . All this is leading to the one govenment world. Control the money you contrl the world. I am beginning to beleive that all this has been planned for 100 hundred years. Can any one change or stop it not a chance. This isnt because of any party, but watsh closely this will happen in our life time,so get use to it and be willing to adpapt because it is going to happen. Call me nuts thats ok but look deeper for yourself and see if that is not where we are headed. Please no replies just do the math as they say.

Yours is an interesting and alarming observation. It's quite clear that with the erasure of national borders and the development of worldwide economies, that old saying "follow the money" is quite apropos.

That saying that came from the movie, All The President's Men, and seemingly may have been more predictive than we thought at the time. When you think about how borders have come down and economies have essentially merged, it would be hard to argue that those countries and those businesses that control a lion's share of the world capital won't be predominant.

Right now the U.S. is the world's largest economy, but we are a long way from controlling most of the world's capital. In the most recent listing, only 3 of the 10 largest companies in the world are headquartered in the United States. In fact, only 10 of the 25 biggest companies in the world are U.S.-based. More alarmingly are which companies they are and what businesses they're in.
  • A high percentage of the goods sold by the largest company in the world, WalMart, are produced outside the U.S. That is, money spent by U.S. consumers quickly moves offshore to fuel the continued growth of other economies.
  • Three of the world's ten largest are U.S.-based oil companies (Exxon, Chevron and Conoco Phillips), which obtain most of their crude oil outside the U.S. and do a high percentage of their refining in foreign countries. Again, money paid by U.S. consumers to purchase gas and oil from these companies quickly moves outside the U.S. to fuel foreign economic development.
  • Three of our largest companies are financial firms, Fannie Mae, Berkshire Hathaway and the Bank of America. Two of the three are in serious financial trouble and will have diffiiculty surviving another recession without an additional government bailout.
  • Only three of the largest U.S. companies are manufacturing firms, GE, General Motors and Ford (numbers 16, 20 and 25). The U.S. government still owns a sizable interest in GM after having to save it from liquidation with a huge injection of equity. GM was the world's largest company as recently as 20 years ago.
If we were to compare the current list of the "world's largest" to the same list 20-30 years ago, the number of U.S. companies listed would have been decidedly greater.

The economies of several other countries in the world are growing at a rate that far outpaces the U.S. and have been for a number of years. The result is a massive outflow of capital from the U.S. into other countries and economies. That capital flow will continue to fuel foreign economic growth and inhibit ours.

Of course, after the events of the last few months, we now all know that the U.S. has been operating for a number of years using huge amounts of borrowed money. At the same time, the growth of our economy has slowed to a near standstill and the number of our citizens who cannot find work is in the double digit percentages.

Most importantly, it's become very clear that those governing the U.S. are unwilling, incapable or incompetent to reverse any of these trends. This is not a pretty picture.

Follow the money.

Guest 08-07-2011 07:44 PM

NAFTA was one of the worst peices of legislature that has hit this country in decades. With the removal of durable good manufacturing out of this country we have been weakened to the point that we can not and should not go to war with any country.We wouldnt be able to supply our troops. If the government of the US would give manufacturing companies total tax free incentives I still don't think we could get them to come back here. That would be the only saving grace that we have.Bring back manufacturing and put people back to work. The powers that control the money do not want this to happen. They know that the only way a One Government World is going to happen is to bring the US to its knees, and trust me this is going to happen very very shortly. I wonder what is going to happen with all the written contracts with mortgages etc. as to where that will end. Recently I thought of a reverse mortgage on my house but if a government back lender calls the mortgage in and they where will you be heck they could do it on my current mortgage,don't say they can't. If it gets to the point to survive you may become delinquint on your payments. cotrol is the conquest of the powers in place. And it is not our federal government . Politics dosen't inter into any of this.

Guest 08-07-2011 08:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 378888)
Now that is funny.... the Dems want to eliminate God. Actually this Democrat would like to see the constitution mandate for separation of church and state upheld. You can pray to any GOD you want.....

There is no Constitutional mandate for a separation of Church and State.

This false idea was gleaned from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson and used to this day by atheists and statists who want no higher devotion by the citizenry than devotion to the State.

The Constitution merely forbids a State Religion such as The Church Of England.

Guest 08-07-2011 11:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 378888)
Now that is funny.... the Dems want to eliminate God. Actually this Democrat would like to see the constitution mandate for separation of church and state upheld. You can pray to any GOD you want.....

read the Constitution. There is no mandate for separation of church and state.

Guest 08-08-2011 05:02 AM

How did church and state get into this

Guest 08-08-2011 07:07 AM

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It is in there somewhere. You don't see any state-run churches do you? Sheeeesh.

No there are not any state run churches but as a child I was forced to read from the bible in a public school. Problem with that, before you get your shorts in a twist, was Catholic child not Catholic bible. It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government. If it is your religion you are all for it. If it's not....,

Guest 08-08-2011 08:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379186)
No there are not any state run churches but as a child I was forced to read from the bible in a public school. Problem with that, before you get your shorts in a twist, was Catholic child not Catholic bible. It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government. If it is your religion you are all for it. If it's not....,


".... It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government"

Can you allow some validity to this charge ? Links, proposals, etc. ?

Praying to your God for guidance, strength and inspiration is certainly not injecting God into politics. Letting folks know that you do that does not insist that you do the same, and keeping quiet about it is hiding how you feel.

You certainly are not against an elected official praying are you ? Or must he/she do it under cover of night ?

Guest 08-08-2011 08:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379186)
No there are not any state run churches but as a child I was forced to read from the bible in a public school. Problem with that, before you get your shorts in a twist, was Catholic child not Catholic bible. It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government. If it is your religion you are all for it. If it's not....,

I never heard of such a thing. Gross exaggeration come to mind. But I do know that progressives want their "god" Central Government, in every school and everybody's lives.

Guest 08-08-2011 09:34 AM

If there is no government religion why is there a Chaplain of the Senate? Who decides what favor he/she will be?

Guest 08-08-2011 09:49 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379186)
...... It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government. If it is your religion you are all for it. If it's not....,

Huh?????? It's quite clear that the founding fathers knew and affirmed in 1774 that they were smart enough to know that God--the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob--is greater and mightier than themselves. The daily prayer tradition in the House of Representatives, U.S. Congress continues to this very day starting with this:

First Prayer of the Continental Congress, 1774
The Prayer in the First Congress, A.D. 1774 The Prayer in the First Congress, A.D. 1774

O Lord our Heavenly Father, high and mighty King of kings, and Lord of lords, who dost from thy throne behold all the dwellers on earth and reignest with power supreme and uncontrolled over all the Kingdoms, Empires and Governments; look down in mercy, we beseech Thee, on these our American States, who have fled to Thee from the rod of the oppressor and thrown themselves on Thy gracious protection, desiring to be henceforth dependent only on Thee. To Thee have they appealed for the righteousness of their cause; to Thee do they now look up for that countenance and support, which Thou alone canst give. Take them, therefore, Heavenly Father, under Thy nurturing care; give them wisdom in Council and valor in the field; defeat the malicious designs of our cruel adversaries; convince them of the unrighteousness of their Cause and if they persist in their sanguinary purposes, of own unerring justice, sounding in their hearts, constrain them to drop the weapons of war from their unnerved hands in the day of battle!

Be Thou present, O God of wisdom, and direct the councils of this honorable assembly; enable them to settle things on the best and surest foundation. That the scene of blood may be speedily closed; that order, harmony and peace may be effectually restored, and truth and justice, religion and piety, prevail and flourish amongst the people. Preserve the health of their bodies and vigor of their minds; shower down on them and the millions they here represent, such temporal blessings as Thou seest expedient for them in this world and crown them with everlasting glory in the world to come. All this we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son and our Savior.

Amen.

Reverend Jacob Duché
Rector of Christ Church of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
September 7, 1774, 9 o’clock a.m.

http://chaplain.house.gov/archive/index.html

AND: Before the Administrator deletes this for being "off topic", I would remind us all that the title of this thread asks: "Why is this happening?". Another poster responded with the answer that leaders being godless is a big part of the reason our nation is crumbling. The info I am posting above affirms that honoring and deferring to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has been officially a part of this nation's fabric since at least 1774.

I would hope that this board does not censor out mention of something so factual, historic and non-partisan as this!

Guest 08-08-2011 11:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379223)
".... It appears the Republican party wants to reintroduce religion in the schools and in the government"

Can you allow some validity to this charge ? Links, proposals, etc. ?

Praying to your God for guidance, strength and inspiration is certainly not injecting God into politics. Letting folks know that you do that does not insist that you do the same, and keeping quiet about it is hiding how you feel.

You certainly are not against an elected official praying are you ? Or must he/she do it under cover of night ?

See your shorts are in a twist..... This post was in response to villagesgolfer who said the Dems were trying to remove GOD. I don't think you asked for proof on that one.

Guest 08-08-2011 11:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379278)
See your shorts are in a twist..... This post was in response to villagesgolfer who said the Dems were trying to remove GOD. I don't think you asked for proof on that one.

Sorry...I didnt see the word "Democrats" or "Dems".....saw "socialists" etc ! But no party mention but I may have missed it.

That aside, why did you make your statement which is NOT TRUE ?

This is where we are.....R's say something unfair about D's. D's get upset and saysomething about R's. None of it true, but it is ok, right ?

So, you interpet the remark concerning "socialists" (unless I missed the D reference all together) to refer to D's. That makes it ok for you to make untrue statements about R's.

I did not ignore what was said...just did not get a party inference from it.

Guest 08-08-2011 12:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379278)
See your shorts are in a twist..... This post was in response to villagesgolfer who said the Dems were trying to remove GOD. I don't think you asked for proof on that one.

Show me where I said "Dems"? Unless you think all democrats are progressive socialists. Seems your just looking for a R vs. D fight.chilout

Guest 08-08-2011 01:46 PM

The current administration both Ds and Rs need to read the Consitution, referring to separation from Church and State. No where does the Consitution say anything like that.

It only says, the GOVERNMENT will NOT establish a religion.

Get a copy and read that important little piece of paper.

Guest 08-08-2011 03:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379228)
I never heard of such a thing. Gross exaggeration come to mind. But I do know that progressives want their "god" Central Government, in every school and everybody's lives.

You are a laugh a minute....have you noticed the number of republican held states trying to stop the law of the land Row bs Wade? How about DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell. You probably think it was ok for Tiller to be gunned down in church.

Now how dare you question my experience!!! In the 4th grade, in New Jersey I was required to read from the bible, when it was my turn, and to recite the Lord's prayer. We had to bring in a Catholic bible. As there were only 4 or 5 of us Catholics the overall experience defines my stance on the issue to this day.

Guest 08-08-2011 03:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379322)
The current administration both Ds and Rs need to read the Consitution, referring to separation from Church and State. No where does the Consitution say anything like that.

It only says, the GOVERNMENT will NOT establish a religion.

Get a copy and read that important little piece of paper.

I have read that document but we both know what reality is.... We are supposed to have freedom of religion. But some want to impose their beliefs on us......

And before you call another name I would think twice.

Guest 08-08-2011 04:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379374)
I have read that document but we both know what reality is.... We are supposed to have freedom of religion. But some want to impose their beliefs on us......

And before you call another name I would think twice.

"But some want to impose their beliefs on us......"


WHO is doing this ? Please...you keep ignoring when asked where you get this information and keep making the same accusations...WHO..in what manner

Guest 08-08-2011 05:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379370)
You are a laugh a minute....have you noticed the number of republican held states trying to stop the law of the land Row bs Wade? How about DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell. You probably think it was ok for Tiller to be gunned down in church.

Now how dare you question my experience!!! In the 4th grade, in New Jersey I was required to read from the bible, when it was my turn, and to recite the Lord's prayer. We had to bring in a Catholic bible. As there were only 4 or 5 of us Catholics the overall experience defines my stance on the issue to this day.

So, you think it should be the law of the land to kill babies in the name of birth control? How sick is that?

Guest 08-08-2011 05:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379374)
I have read that document but we both know what reality is.... We are supposed to have freedom of religion. But some want to impose their beliefs on us......

And before you call another name I would think twice.

Who said that? It is not in our constitution. You didn't make that up, did you?

Guest 08-08-2011 07:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379370)
You are a laugh a minute....have you noticed the number of republican held states trying to stop the law of the land Row bs Wade?

...trying to connect this comment to the discussion of seperation of church and state? Not to mention that someone does not have to be a republican or a christian to hold the the belief that abortion is wrong. My Muslim, democrat, physician also believes it is VERY wrong and that Row v Wade should be overturned...:shrug:

Guest 08-08-2011 07:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379478)
...trying to connect this comment to the discussion of seperation of church and state? Not to mention that someone does not have to be a republican or a christian to hold the the belief that abortion is wrong. My Muslim, democrat, physician also believes it is VERY wrong and that Row v Wade should be overturned...:shrug:

There are many many Democrats of ALL religions who feel it is killing...depends on when you think life begins. This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few

Guest 08-08-2011 08:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379493)
There are many many Democrats of ALL religions who feel it is killing...depends on when you think life begins.

Doesn't matter when any particular person thinks that life begins. Here's the deal-female's egg(living cells with distinct DNA) meet male's sperm (living cells with distinct but different DNA). The merge produces other living cells with distinct DNA that is different from either one of the original. Note-nothing has died here in this process, hence the new organism is alive too, hence LIFE! Not to mention that it is growing at a far greater pace than the ovary or the sperm. The question is not when life begins...The question is-who has the right to stop these living cells from living... [/QUOTE]This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few[/QUOTE]
My point exactly!

Guest 08-08-2011 08:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379493)
There are many many Democrats of ALL religions who feel it is killing...depends on when you think life begins.

Doesn't matter when any particular person thinks that life begins. Here's the deal-female's egg(living cells with distinct DNA) meet male's sperm (living cells with distinct but different DNA). The merge produces other living cells with distinct DNA that is different from either one of the original. Note-nothing has died here in this process, hence the new organism is alive too, hence LIFE! The question is not when life begins...The question is-who has the right to stop these living cells from living... Also Originally posted by Bucco "This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few" My point exactly!

Guest 08-08-2011 10:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379415)
So, you think it should be the law of the land to kill babies in the name of birth control? How sick is that?

I have never had nor has anyone in my family had an abortion...those are my beliefs. However, unlike you I don't impose them on else. So thanks for making my point.

Guest 08-08-2011 10:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379416)
Who said that? It is not in our constitution. You didn't make that up, did you?

OMG you mean we don't have freedom of religion? I must be reading the wrong constitution.

Guest 08-08-2011 10:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379507)
Doesn't matter when any particular person thinks that life begins. Here's the deal-female's egg(living cells with distinct DNA) meet male's sperm (living cells with distinct but different DNA). The merge produces other living cells with distinct DNA that is different from either one of the original. Note-nothing has died here in this process, hence the new organism is alive too, hence LIFE! The question is not when life begins...The question is-who has the right to stop these living cells from living... Also Originally posted by Bucco "This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few" My point exactly!

With respect to your views the Jewish religion doesn't believe that life begins at conception. I learned that while working at Rose Medical Center in Denver. I talked to my priest about doing the lab work for these cases.

Guest 08-08-2011 10:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379507)
Doesn't matter when any particular person thinks that life begins. Here's the deal-female's egg(living cells with distinct DNA) meet male's sperm (living cells with distinct but different DNA). The merge produces other living cells with distinct DNA that is different from either one of the original. Note-nothing has died here in this process, hence the new organism is alive too, hence LIFE! The question is not when life begins...The question is-who has the right to stop these living cells from living... Also Originally posted by Bucco "This is NOT a religious issue except in the minds of a few" My point exactly!

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Posted by Guest (Post 379415)
So, you think it should be the law of the land to kill babies in the name of birth control? How sick is that?

I noticed no response to the Tiller question....so you agree that this killing was ok?

Guest 08-08-2011 11:19 PM

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OMG you mean we don't have freedom of religion? I must be reading the wrong constitution.

we have freedom of religion not freedom from religion.

Guest 08-08-2011 11:23 PM

God is very important to our republic. It is God from whom we obtain our inalienable rights. It is up to the government to protect and ensure that we retain those inalienable rights.

If we were to accept the atheist point of view there is no God then we would be eliminating the guarantor of our rights. This would mean that government is the source of our rights and that they would be free to take them away or give them at will.

I'll go with God.

Guest 08-08-2011 11:23 PM

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I noticed no response to the Tiller question....so you agree that this killing was ok?

Tis very certain the desire of life prolongs it. ~Lord Byron

Guest 08-09-2011 04:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 378895)
It is in there somewhere. You don't see any state-run churches do you? Sheeeesh.

The problem is that we have Church run States

Guest 08-09-2011 06:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379577)
I noticed no response to the Tiller question....so you agree that this killing was ok?

Absolutely not! as I said, the question is who has the right to take the life of a living thing or being! But to murder him? No...two wrongs never make a right. Do i think that by performing abortions that he was performing the act of murder? Absolutely! The man was a physician, he knew that was a life he was stopping.
In regards to what any particular Jewish medical professional or medical facility believes about when life begins, apparently they are wrong...

Guest 08-09-2011 08:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 379603)
The problem is that we have Church run States

Now that's just utter nonsense. Back that up.

Guest 08-09-2011 08:16 AM

I have a question for all you atheist. How can you not believe in something unless you believe that it actually exists, therefore there must be something to believe in order for you not to believe.

cocogal - what name was used or did you get called?

Guest 08-09-2011 08:39 AM

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God is very important to our republic. It is God from whom we obtain our inalienable rights. It is up to the government to protect and ensure that we retain those inalienable rights.

If we were to accept the atheist point of view there is no God then we would be eliminating the guarantor of our rights. This would mean that government is the source of our rights and that they would be free to take them away or give them at will.

I'll go with God.

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