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blueash 08-11-2011 09:08 PM

Goodbye to my gator
 
I live on a lake where for many months we have watched an alligator swim by daily and do his alligator things. He has harmed no one including the golfers on the other side of the lake. But he is a big gator, about eight feet. Today a black truck comes with three young men and a permit and gear to "remove" the gator because of a complaint. They are licensed to do this by the state of Florida. It turns out that a person who is here only a few weeks a year maintaining his deceased parent's home requested this removal because he is worried about his four dogs which he lets out without being leashed might be attacked by the gator. While we won't get into the he shouldn't have four dogs, nor should they be outside unleashed, nor should his sister in law be staying there for three months, etc... It seems there might have been some mechanism to have the state authorities ask the other neighbors about their desire to have the gator stay or go. And for them to ascertain the actual risk to the dog(s) if the person would not let them out unleashed. After all this is a house on a lake in Florida where gators can be expected to be part of the environment.
So they baited a line, attached to a float, and played gator mating music over a speaker and left and over one hour after the gator had been caught and was struggling they returned to the lake to find the gator stuck on the line, then removed the animal. Consider this an open invitation to any gator looking for a new home.

ssmith 08-11-2011 09:32 PM

Sorry
 
...I can tell that you loved watching that gator! Maybe one of his friends will move in !

ceejay 08-11-2011 09:35 PM

That really stinks...:(

angiefox10 08-11-2011 09:36 PM

Mating music???? Should I ask???? :D

TOTV Team 08-11-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 380914)
Mating music???? Should I ask???? :D


:1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 08-11-2011 09:47 PM

On what lake? Was it in TV?

golf2140 08-11-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 380877)
I live on a lake where for many months we have watched an alligator swim by daily and do his alligator things. He has harmed no one including the golfers on the other side of the lake. But he is a big gator, about eight feet. Today a black truck comes with three young men and a permit and gear to "remove" the gator because of a complaint. They are licensed to do this by the state of Florida. It turns out that a person who is here only a few weeks a year maintaining his deceased parent's home requested this removal because he is worried about his four dogs which he lets out without being leashed might be attacked by the gator. While we won't get into the he shouldn't have four dogs, nor should they be outside unleashed, nor should his sister in law be staying there for three months, etc... It seems there might have been some mechanism to have the state authorities ask the other neighbors about their desire to have the gator stay or go. And for them to ascertain the actual risk to the dog(s) if the person would not let them out unleashed. After all this is a house on a lake in Florida where gators can be expected to be part of the environment.
So they baited a line, attached to a float, and played gator mating music over a speaker and left and over one hour after the gator had been caught and was struggling they returned to the lake to find the gator stuck on the line, then removed the animal. Consider this an open invitation to any gator looking for a new home.

Same thing happened to the Buffalo. Grandad leans over the fence with grand-daughter. Buffalo bumps grand-daughter. Pop sues. We loose our friends because of a suit. :cryin2:

kb8tpw 08-12-2011 03:21 AM

Another case of the imbeciles ruling - sick.......

hedoman 08-12-2011 03:21 AM

Mating Music?

Sinatra? Miles Davis? Barry White? Crocodile Rock?

Do they remove bad neighbors too?

:highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:

blueash 08-12-2011 12:10 PM

thanx for the sympathy
 
The music was an auditory montage of charming grunts and snorts. I'm sure it sounded better to the gator. Yes this was here in TV, a lake on the Mallory golf course. I've always wondered if the Bison left because of litigation, or the opportunity to develop the land into high profit housing was too much to ignore.

skyguy79 08-12-2011 12:53 PM

Hopefully if was a happy ending for the gator!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...LaterGator.gif

joannej 08-12-2011 01:02 PM

Part of enjoying TV is enjoying the nature that's here too. I wonder how that man would feel if someone reported his 4 dogs running loose around the lake? Somehow common sense should prevail. I can tell that you are missing "friend".

Dennis Ga 08-12-2011 01:22 PM

Now that the Big Fellow has been taken away, maybe 2 or 3 little ones will take his place as they would not hsve been welcomed into his home.

joannej 08-12-2011 01:31 PM

Little Gators
 
Would the owner of the dogs report the little gators too? Sad to say.

JAV0108 08-12-2011 04:42 PM

I have heard that once a gator reaches 8 feet in any Villages water ways, they get transported to new digs. That is just something I have heard I don't know if it is true.

mulligan 08-12-2011 04:44 PM

unfortunately, sky, any nuisance gator over 4' must be destroyed by state law. under 4' they can be relocated.

gerryann 08-12-2011 04:53 PM

Unfortunately, he will be destroyed as mulligan stated. I could understand if he was attacking...but he sounded content to just hang around. It takes all kinds, doesn't it? Sad. :sad:

Pturner 08-12-2011 05:34 PM

I love the critters too!
 
See you later, Alligator. :cryin2:

jojo 08-12-2011 05:42 PM

We've had a gator in the retention pond behind us on the 6th hole of Amelia. Haven't seen it for a couple days. Does anyone know from which pond they removed it? It seemed to move between ponds - we assume through the drainage pipes.

skyguy79 08-12-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 381221)
unfortunately, sky, any nuisance gator over 4' must be destroyed by state law. under 4' they can be relocated.

That's sad! :cry: Are the Everglades that overcrowded with alligators that they couldn't relocated the good ol' boys or did the square miles of the Everglades shrink that much when the law was passed? I know those questions are probably retorical, but I just had to state them anyway! :(

robertj1954 08-12-2011 08:01 PM

For decades the "noseeum" were the biggest nuisance in Florida. Today, it appears the "nothinkums" have taken over the number 1 spot!

CMANN 08-12-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 380877)
I live on a lake where for many months we have watched an alligator swim by daily and do his alligator things. He has harmed no one including the golfers on the other side of the lake. But he is a big gator, about eight feet. Today a black truck comes with three young men and a permit and gear to "remove" the gator because of a complaint. They are licensed to do this by the state of Florida. It turns out that a person who is here only a few weeks a year maintaining his deceased parent's home requested this removal because he is worried about his four dogs which he lets out without being leashed might be attacked by the gator. While we won't get into the he shouldn't have four dogs, nor should they be outside unleashed, nor should his sister in law be staying there for three months, etc... It seems there might have been some mechanism to have the state authorities ask the other neighbors about their desire to have the gator stay or go. And for them to ascertain the actual risk to the dog(s) if the person would not let them out unleashed. After all this is a house on a lake in Florida where gators can be expected to be part of the environment.
So they baited a line, attached to a float, and played gator mating music over a speaker and left and over one hour after the gator had been caught and was struggling they returned to the lake to find the gator stuck on the line, then removed the animal. Consider this an open invitation to any gator looking for a new home.

Do you understand that your gator would eat your grand-children, given the least opportunity?

Bosoxfan 08-12-2011 10:45 PM

:popcorn:Barry White...lol

wlake23 08-30-2011 01:53 PM

They shot our gator today!!!
 
I really can't believe what I just saw from my lanai. We live on a pond in Duval and I just watched three men catch "our" gator, then proceed to shoot it in the head. I saw them do it! The gator was in it's natural habitat and if anybody complained, I'm not sure what grounds they had. We've been here for four years (with our dog) and have never encountered any dangerous situations involving "our" gator. What possible reason could there be to kill an "innocent" animal?

The Villager II 08-30-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlake23 (Post 388241)
I really can't believe what I just saw from my lanai. We live on a pond in Duval and I just watched three men catch "our" gator, then proceed to shoot it in the head. I saw them do it! The gator was in it's natural habitat and if anybody complained, I'm not sure what grounds they had. We've been here for four years (with our dog) and have never encountered any dangerous situations involving "our" gator. What possible reason could there be to kill an "innocent" animal?

Human Paranoia.

red tail 08-30-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 381332)
Do you understand that your gator would eat your grand-children, given the least opportunity?

you have been watching tooooooo much natl geo.............

KittyKat 08-30-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlake23 (Post 388241)
I really can't believe what I just saw from my lanai. We live on a pond in Duval and I just watched three men catch "our" gator, then proceed to shoot it in the head. I saw them do it! The gator was in it's natural habitat and if anybody complained, I'm not sure what grounds they had. We've been here for four years (with our dog) and have never encountered any dangerous situations involving "our" gator. What possible reason could there be to kill an "innocent" animal?

So sorry, that must have been horrible to watch.

PPreu 08-30-2011 03:25 PM

They do it for free
 
The 'gator hunters are licensed by the state. They perform their duties for free, which is to say "almost free". For the performance of their duties, these trappers get to keep the spoils, in the form of gator heads, hides, and meat. (After all, the "gator nuggets" served up in local restaurants come from someplace, right?)

The removal of gators is restricted to "nuisance" gators, based on a complaint. For once size DOESNT matter.

As for nuisance neighbors, well I happen to know a gator who works for meals.!!!

Personally, I enjoy the occasional alligator, remembering that they were here first. But then again, so was the American Indian. Ok, back on point...

Larry Wilson 08-30-2011 04:14 PM

A very friendly gator at Sumter Landing had to be relocated (to someones freezer).
Problem was people kept feeding the turtles, fish and then the gator got in on the food.
The boat and grounds people kept driving it away hoping it would not be shot. Once you throw food to an animal, it will beg for more so Mr or Mrs. Gator kept coming back. Please don't feed the wild animals and let them remain wild. We all miss that gator.

Mickedamouse24 08-30-2011 04:25 PM

:ohdear:You can hang as many signs as you wish proclaiming "do not feed the alligators!"....but humans, being humans....will ignore that fact and ultimately sign the gators death warrant. What part of "wild animal!" do some folks not understand. Admire or wonder about them but let them live in peace....!!! Having said that, it's really hard to fix stupid in some people....!!!

duffysmom 08-30-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickedamouse24 (Post 388299)
:ohdear:You can hang as many signs as you wish proclaiming "do not feed the alligators!"....but humans, being humans....will ignore that fact and ultimately sign the gators death warrant. What part of "wild animal!" do some folks not understand. Admire or wonder about them but let them live in peace....!!! Having said that, it's really hard to fix stupid in some people....!!!

Amen..:clap2:

GoldenMan 08-30-2011 08:35 PM

aw poor gator :shrug:

Mintjulep 08-31-2011 12:30 PM

Blueash, you must be my neighbor. One of my friends who watched the guys capture and kill the gator said they used a raw chicken with a spring in it, then when the gator ate the chicken, the spring opened and wouldn't allow the gators mouth to close. Then they tied it's front and back legs behind it's back, hung it by a hook and shot it. My friend said the gator really suffered. Horrible!!!
Another of our neighbors have talked to the people with the dogs that complained, and made it clear that they need to check with other neighbors before complaining again about something that affects others enjoyment or there may be complaints made about their 4 dogs that run loose.

I hear that a new gator is now inhabiting the lake...

redwitch 08-31-2011 02:42 PM

Hooray for the neighbors who put the idiot in his place! Shame they couldn't have done it before an innocent creature was killed.

I hate TV's policy that gators of a certain size are automatically to be eliminated. Why not remove them at 7 feet and move them to a new, safe(r) locale rather than wait until they're killing size? Cheaper??

I'm not a gator fan -- they give me the willies and, to me, they are one of the ugliest critters on this great planet. However, they're willing to share the land with us, why aren't we willing to share it with them? I really hate that some people feel they have a right to dictate for anyone and anything. (I think I have too many soapboxes but critters deserve better than we give 'em.)

paulandjean 08-31-2011 03:04 PM

Gators
 
I am no Gator fan. I do not see the problem of removing then from the ponds. I prefer that there are no gators here. As far as the people with 4 dogs, I do not think they are of the same menace as gator ...[/I]

rubicon 08-31-2011 04:12 PM

I have my hands in front of me palms up and moving them up and down in a scale like manner....and I am repeating gator, guy with 4 dogs, gator, guy with 4 dogs.......Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

GeorgeT 08-31-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mintjulep (Post 388617)
Blueash, you must be my neighbor. One of my friends who watched the guys capture and kill the gator said they used a raw chicken with a spring in it, then when the gator ate the chicken, the spring opened and wouldn't allow the gators mouth to close. Then they tied it's front and back legs behind it's back, hung it by a hook and shot it. My friend said the gator really suffered. Horrible!!!
Another of our neighbors have talked to the people with the dogs that complained, and made it clear that they need to check with other neighbors before complaining again about something that affects others enjoyment or there may be complaints made about their 4 dogs that run loose.

I hear that a new gator is now inhabiting the lake...

Ever see how they kill a cow or a chicken or a goat or a pig? I like to see gators in the ponds and lakes and I like to eat them too (tastes like chicken) So what's the big deal? He got big, was perceived as a threat and was killed, happens all the time. Like another poster said he would kill and eat you if he had the chance.

collie1228 08-31-2011 06:16 PM

I'm a lifetime hunter, fisherman and general outdoors person and I have no problem with the death of an animal that could be a menace to the local human residents. The problem in my mind wasn't the killing of the gator, it was the lack of respect by the gator cops when they killed it in front of residents. A humane death in a private place would have been appropriate. If I were a resident who witnessed this outrage, I would be complaining to the powers that be in TV. If they handled the killing of this gator as described, the gator cops aren't all that smart (or neighborly).

rabonkmontage@msn.com 08-31-2011 07:16 PM

Yes they should be reported!

Larry Wilson 08-31-2011 09:25 PM

Live near a lake here for 7 years. Two big gators have been removed from the lake that I know about. No one knew it was happening until you see a big gator in the back of the pick-up. Told gator was being relocated. Big tail was still flipping.
I talked to trapper and he said they try to keep it away from view. Also said they say "relocated" to keep residents from getting upset. Even though Mr. Gator was gone his tail would flip from muscles contracting.
Trapper said they are breeding and multiplying so fast that some need to be removed for the health of all,including the gator population.


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