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Guest 08-21-2011 08:39 PM

Presidential Criticism
 
I've defended President Obama for some of his work and am particularly disappointed in how some posters here have been so incredibly negative toward the man and his 32 months in office.

But criticizing the 'boss' is perhaps America's favorite sport. This clip is a bit dated, but IMHO, it's clever, funny and appropriate...

http://www.247comedy.com/obama-musical

Guest 08-21-2011 08:52 PM

Being a G&S buff
 
I loved the clip! Thanks for sharing. I'm up here in Canada so out of the fray.... although we have a fray of our own! Waiting to get to TV so we can watch your media options instead of ours.

LW888

Guest 08-21-2011 08:54 PM

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Guest 08-22-2011 08:10 AM

Very good clip. Now let's harken back to how well the Democrats treated President George W. Bush. Or still treat him.

Guest 08-22-2011 08:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 384923)
Very good clip. Now let's harken back to how well the Democrats treated President George W. Bush. Or still treat him.

Yes, 8 years of civil discourse, NOT. How quickly they forget.

Guest 08-22-2011 09:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 384923)
Very good clip. Now let's harken back to how well the Democrats treated President George W. Bush. Or still treat him.

I find the lefts consternation on the negative feelings and words directed toward Obama as being pretty hilarious. There was no president in our lifetimes more cursed and disrespected as former President GW Bush, and it came from them.

Now they want decorum because they have a President who THEY like. I only think it fair that I treat President Obama with all the grace and dignity and honor as they showed President Bush.

It's only fair.

Guest 08-22-2011 10:04 AM

I agree it's pretty tough on Americans when we have inept Presidents in office.

We need another RR!

Guest 08-22-2011 10:15 AM

I really dont have anything against Obama I just want him out of office he is ruining our country he's not doing what is good for the country and trying to distroy it from within. This has nothing to do with dem or rep Thats just my beleif thank you

Guest 08-22-2011 10:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 384978)
I really dont have anything against Obama I just want him out of office he is ruining our country he's not doing what is good for the country and trying to distroy it from within. This has nothing to do with dem or rep Thats just my beleif thank you

You're not alone in that belief.

Guest 08-22-2011 11:39 AM

Barefoot arent you Canadian

Guest 08-22-2011 02:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 384978)
I really dont have anything against Obama I just want him out of office he is ruining our country he's not doing what is good for the country and trying to distroy it from within. This has nothing to do with dem or rep Thats just my beleif thank you

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Guest 08-22-2011 02:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385010)
Barefoot arent you Canadian

Whatever happens in the U.S. has to be of great concern for Canada. Especially when the paramount reason they can concentrate on their economy is we take care of their international defense; and their market economy is inexorably tied to ours. (no offense meant Barefoot, just stating facts)

Guest 08-22-2011 03:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 384978)
I really dont have anything against Obama I just want him out of office he is ruining our country he's not doing what is good for the country and trying to distroy it from within. This has nothing to do with dem or rep Thats just my beleif thank you

There is not a presidential bone in his body. The phrase "The great thing about America is that anyone can be President" has taken on a whole new meaning for me.

Guest 08-22-2011 04:31 PM

Thanks for the link.
Very funny.

It's funny how the right wingers can't help themselves from bashing the President even on this post that was about a humorous clip.

One question: I'm only 55 years old but when I get real old will I turn in to an old curmudgeon like these folks? :22yikes:

Guest 08-22-2011 04:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385122)
Thanks for the link.
Very funny.

It's funny how the right wingers can't help themselves from bashing the President even on this post that was about a humorous clip.

One question: I'm only 55 years old but when I get real old will I turn in to an old curmudgeon like these folks? :22yikes:

No, you might get your head out of the clouds and see what really is. 55 years old is a time frame when most people have seen the damage that can be done when socialists are in control.

Guest 08-22-2011 04:57 PM

Please don't send him back here in Il. he didn't have a clue how to do his job here but did know how to get kick backs.

Guest 08-22-2011 05:12 PM

Dear Curmudgeon (AKA Village Golfer),
There you go again with Sean Hannity talking points. So, President Obama is a socialist? Earlier you called him "The annointed one". At least try to disguise the fact you've been brainwashed by using different terms.

I've read about people like you but haven't really met one yet. How about we meet for a beer sometime soon. You busy this weekend?

It can be an American make beer of your choosing. What do you say?

Guest 08-22-2011 05:38 PM

Here's what I see. We have a few posters constantly bad mouthing the President. So be it. Here is what I and many middle of the road people see,a bunch of real losers on the republican side. Obama is definately beatable for all the obvious reasons but not by these right wing evangelicals who deplore evolution,mock global warming,and want to end any program that helps the middle class yet in tough economic times will not discuss closing tax loopholes or taxing the rich at pre Bush rates. Your candidates are weak willed and in some cases really stupid and cave in at the first sign of a tea party person. Until they catch on with the independant voter Obama will win again.

Guest 08-22-2011 05:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385010)
Barefoot arent you Canadian

Yes, I'm Canadian, Doug, thanks for asking. Since 2007 we've owned a home in Florida and live there six months each year. Luckily the Canadian economic situation and real estate market are fairly stable. But we're very concerned about the US economy since we consider ourselves grateful and enthusiastic "half-Americans".

Guest 08-22-2011 06:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385061)
:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Doug Buddy,
I don't get this. First you say you have nothing against Obama then you state that he is trying to distroy this country from within. Hummm, if I really thought someone was trying to distroy this country that I love I would definately have something against him/her.

Guest 08-22-2011 06:27 PM

Personnally should I say, he may be a nice guy. Bad for this country.

Guest 08-22-2011 07:10 PM

This country is in turmoil. There are no jobs, food stamps have increased dramatically, business is scared, we are fighting 3 wars, Gitmo is still open but the press doesn't talk about it anymore now that a democrat is in White House, stock market is tanking, Social security funds are low, Ans what does this leader do? He goes on Vacation and lives like a King while the country suffers.

It is deplorable!!!!!

Guest 08-22-2011 07:56 PM

Hmmm....let me see....

NO jobs, really? 10% unemployment, while bad, is still 90% employed, by my math.

Food Stamps increased dramatically...you have data for that?

Business is scared...scared of what, profits??? Many [not all] companies are reporting record profits every quarter.

3 wars... Only 1 entered into by the current President... Two were started during the previous Administration.

Gitmo still open... OK, got me there.

Stock Market tanking...Ups and Downs...lots of people getting rich these days...should be buying instead of complaining. Warren Buffet says buy, buy, buy...

Social Security Funds are low....NOT!

....and President Obama goes on vacation, like every other president has in recent memory...including President Bush (both of them).

I don't get it, but whatever

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Posted by Guest (Post 385195)
This country is in turmoil. There are no jobs, food stamps have increased dramatically, business is scared, we are fighting 3 wars, Gitmo is still open but the press doesn't talk about it anymore now that a democrat is in White House, stock market is tanking, Social security funds are low, Ans what does this leader do? He goes on Vacation and lives like a King while the country suffers.

It is deplorable!!!!!


Guest 08-22-2011 08:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385223)
Hmmm....let me see....

NO jobs, really? 10% unemployment, while bad, is still 90% employed, by my math.

Food Stamps increased dramatically...you have data for that?

Business is scared...scared of what, profits??? Many [not all] companies are reporting record profits every quarter.

3 wars... Only 1 entered into by the current President... Two were started during the previous Administration.

Gitmo still open... OK, got me there.

Stock Market tanking...Ups and Downs...lots of people getting rich these days...should be buying instead of complaining. Warren Buffet says buy, buy, buy...

Social Security Funds are low....NOT!

....and President Obama goes on vacation, like every other president has in recent memory...including President Bush (both of them).

I don't get it, but whatever

Real unemployment is like 21%

Yes there is data for food stamp increasing..look it up..google is your friend.

Small businesses have not hired because of Obamacare and the unfriendly policies of this regime.
Obama ran on the promise to end the wars and close gitmo...all he has done is start another war.
Yes, social security is critical and will be insolvent in a few years.

Obama going on vacation while the country suffers is inexcusable if not down right shameful.

Guest 08-22-2011 08:26 PM

the republican answer
 
http://www.salon.com/technology/how_...ase/index.html and you want me to vote for the republicans? Are you crazy?

Guest 08-22-2011 08:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385243)
http://www.salon.com/technology/how_...ase/index.html and you want me to vote for the republicans? Are you crazy?

This is total misrepresenation and I suspect you know it.

It is an EDITORIAL out of context from a blog that is surely further left than you can imagine.

Dont know the details but do not base your arguement on such tripe

Guest 08-22-2011 08:31 PM

how many men/women did we lose in this "war" with Libya? How long was this war? How many soldiers did we send to this war? Did we find any WMD's? To compare Libya to Iraq is folly plain and simple.

Guest 08-22-2011 08:34 PM

Bucco,are you saying that the republicans are not opposed to extending the payroll tax?

Guest 08-22-2011 08:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385246)
how many men/women did we lose in this "war" with Libya? How long was this war? How many soldiers did we send to this war? Did we find any WMD's? To compare Libya to Iraq is folly plain and simple.


Thousands of innocent civilians were killed by USA bombs. Where is the outrage!!!!

Guest 08-22-2011 08:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385245)
This is total misrepresenation and I suspect you know it.

It is an EDITORIAL out of context from a blog that is surely further left than you can imagine.

Dont know the details but do not base your arguement on such tripe

Prove it!!!! I was half owner in a tax business for over 30 years... Trust me when I say the tax law for the rich and against the poor have been perpetuated by the Republicans.

Prove this is wrong!!!!

Guest 08-22-2011 08:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385252)
Prove it!!!! I was half owner in a tax business for over 30 years... Trust me when I say the tax law for the rich and against the poor have been perpetuated by the Republicans.

Prove this is wrong!!!!

LOLOLOL There are no rich democrats???? LOL

Guest 08-22-2011 08:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385254)
LOLOLOL There are no rich democrats???? LOL


Not what I said...

Guest 08-22-2011 10:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385252)
Prove it!!!! I was half owner in a tax business for over 30 years... Trust me when I say the tax law for the rich and against the poor have been perpetuated by the Republicans.

Prove this is wrong!!!!


Just trust you? No links to prove that you are right?

Guest 08-23-2011 06:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385223)
Gitmo still open... OK, got me there.

That's the real issue for showing colors.

The people who condemn Obama for "flip-flopping" on Gitmo are the ones that said he would put America in peril if he closed it. He did what they wanted and still got gigged for it.

Guest 08-23-2011 07:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385302)
Just trust you? No links to prove that you are right?

Posting very rarely now.....but links for proof? Most links people incline toward the political forum look at are only those that "confirm" the point of view they already hold. I could provide links that "prove" just about anything I'd want to. I'm sure there are links that "prove" man was created in one day by a Supreme Being and there are links that "prove" we evolved from an amoeba in pond water. :(

Guest 08-23-2011 08:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385338)
That's the real issue for showing colors.

The people who condemn Obama for "flip-flopping" on Gitmo are the ones that said he would put America in peril if he closed it. He did what they wanted and still got gigged for it.


I think you forget the emotion used, the timing of the FIRST DAY signing of an order, the utter disgust shown for the previous administration.

I cant think of a candidate who doesnt "flip flop" once he gets into office and is faced with REALITY, but he and his followers made this such a big BIG issue and with such emotion and spewed such "misconceptions" about the ease in which this can be done....that makes it a big deal.

Guest 08-23-2011 06:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385090)
Whatever happens in the U.S. has to be of great concern for Canada. Especially when the paramount reason they can concentrate on their economy is we take care of their international defense; and their market economy is inexorably tied to ours. (no offense meant Barefoot, just stating facts)

And just where do you get the majority of your oil from??:posting:

Guest 08-23-2011 06:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385351)
Posting very rarely now.....but links for proof? Most links people incline toward the political forum look at are only those that "confirm" the point of view they already hold. I could provide links that "prove" just about anything I'd want to. I'm sure there are links that "prove" man was created in one day by a Supreme Being and there are links that "prove" we evolved from an amoeba in pond water. :(


I completely agree with you! Thus why I keep telling people to prove me wrong. I want to understand why people think/believe the way they do. I have change on so many issues by looking at both sides. Yes... You can find a link to "prove" both sides. But... often times you can prove or disprove the links.

Thanks! :thumbup:

Guest 08-23-2011 08:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385351)
Posting very rarely now.....but links for proof? Most links people incline toward the political forum look at are only those that "confirm" the point of view they already hold. I could provide links that "prove" just about anything I'd want to. I'm sure there are links that "prove" man was created in one day by a Supreme Being and there are links that "prove" we evolved from an amoeba in pond water. :(

Not sure what "posting very rarely now" means?
As far as wanting links for proof, I believe Angie is the one who quite often requests links that prove the point being made. She prefers not to just take someone's word for it and she has been praised for such.

Guest 08-23-2011 08:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 385606)
And just where do you get the majority of your oil from??:posting:

I believe that would be-What is Canada?, Alex!


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