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ducati1974 08-27-2011 07:08 PM

Water on the lanai
 
Anyone else have a problem with rain blowing thru the screens and pooling in the lanai? It seems to be worse now that we have tiled the floor. Possibly it seeped under the bottom aluminum rail before, but now is dammed by the rail. I'm thinking about removing that bottom rail and instead installing flat aluminum stock (1/4" thick by 2" wide) with the screen tucked under so that the tile will now be slightly higher than the new aluminum, allowing the water to flow out. Any thoughts (other than windows)? Thanks! Unfortunately I can't try my "fix" until January when I return.

Bogie Shooter 08-27-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ducati1974 (Post 387196)
Anyone else have a problem with rain blowing thru the screens and pooling in the lanai? It seems to be worse now that we have tiled the floor. Possibly it seeped under the bottom aluminum rail before, but now is dammed by the rail. I'm thinking about removing that bottom rail and instead installing flat aluminum stock (1/4" thick by 2" wide) with the screen tucked under so that the tile will now be slightly higher than the new aluminum, allowing the water to flow out. Any thoughts (other than windows)? Thanks! Unfortunately I can't try my "fix" until January when I return.

Here might be an easier solution-
http://www.ezlanaidrain.com/E-Z_Lana...s/Welcome.html

Just Google lanai drains, there are other solutions.

ducati1974 08-27-2011 08:25 PM

Bogie shooter- I think I'll promote you to Birdie shooter! Thanks for the info. I've checked out that lanai drain and my only problem is that now that the floor is tiled the aluminum is only about 1/2-5/8" high on the inside so I don't think their covers will work unless I just make a slot on the inside and install the covers on the outside where the aluminum is still 1" high. At any rate I have sent them an email for more info/advise. Thanks again!

borjo 08-27-2011 08:36 PM

My husband drilled holes in the aluminum at floor level so it would drain out.

getdul981 08-28-2011 06:30 AM

I wonder what keeps water and critters from collecting inside the channel itself. You cut the holes all the way through the channel, but you only put a screen on the inside. That leaves the outside open to critters coming in and the water may not go al the way out, but may collect inside the channel.

ducati1974 08-28-2011 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by getdul981 (Post 387305)
I wonder what keeps water and critters from collecting inside the channel itself. You cut the holes all the way through the channel, but you only put a screen on the inside. That leaves the outside open to critters coming in and the water may not go al the way out, but may collect inside the channel.

I wondered about the water sitting inside the channel too, possibly causing mildew or? In my case I'd have to put the screen on the outside because the channel is no longer the full height on the inside. At least I wouldn't have the critter problem.

Ooper 08-28-2011 09:00 AM

Looked at their website but no where does it tell where to purchase them or how much they cost. Anybody know?

ducati1974 08-28-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ooper (Post 387349)
Looked at their website but no where does it tell where to purchase them or how much they cost. Anybody know?

I sent them an email, I'll post when they reply.

Bogie Shooter 08-28-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ducati1974 (Post 387196)
Anyone else have a problem with rain blowing thru the screens and pooling in the lanai? It seems to be worse now that we have tiled the floor. Possibly it seeped under the bottom aluminum rail before, but now is dammed by the rail. I'm thinking about removing that bottom rail and instead installing flat aluminum stock (1/4" thick by 2" wide) with the screen tucked under so that the tile will now be slightly higher than the new aluminum, allowing the water to flow out. Any thoughts (other than windows)? Thanks! Unfortunately I can't try my "fix" until January when I return.

I finally found the card that a neighbor gave to me after she had lanai drains installed by a guy here in TV.
With all the delete not delete discussion going, I will PM you with the telephone number. (Don't want to upset anybody)

Ooper 08-28-2011 08:31 PM

Thanks... I contacted the info per their website but it didn't seem to take it.

annmarie 08-30-2011 02:55 PM

sounds like a good product
 
has anyone used these drains, how did you like them and where can we get them?

Bogie Shooter 08-30-2011 03:08 PM

My neighbor had this guy install a similiar drain on her lanai, she seems to think they are working. Other than that I know nothing about this man other than he is a Villager.
BJ's Service
352-259-2744 or 352-454-6448
Free Demonstration.

TamLeigh 06-02-2012 09:05 AM

Does anyone have the information and contact numbers for this person who installs lanai drains? Thanks in advance!!

buzzy 06-02-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ducati1974 (Post 387321)
I wondered about the water sitting inside the channel too, possibly causing mildew or? In my case I'd have to put the screen on the outside because the channel is no longer the full height on the inside. At least I wouldn't have the critter problem.

What looks like a box channel is probably open on the bottom, so draining is not an issue. That's the way the screen frames are made for our condo down south. No reason to believe that The Villages builders use anything else.

graciegirl 06-02-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 387210)
Here might be an easier solution-
E-Z Lanai Drains

Just Google lanai drains, there are other solutions.

Our neighbor had a little screened thing inserted into her bottom metal support. Sweetie was telling me about it. This might be what it is.

Shimpy 06-02-2012 05:35 PM

I simply loosen the fasteners holding the aluminum frame to the slab, pried it up and put a shim of about 1/16" under it and re-tightened. Invisible repair and water runs right out. For a shim use something that won't rust such as plastic. I used a large wire tie cut into pieces.
See where it puddles and do only that area.

Cynbod 06-02-2012 07:11 PM

We had our lanai tiled and had a similiar problem with rain water pooling in spots. My husband drilled small holes though the grout to the outside wall. He lined the hole with a small (think straw size) tube and then affixed little pieces of screening on the outside wall. No more pooling. We had called about the drainage things but the man wanted to remove several tiles and that was not acceptable to us. This seems to work very well for us.:posting:

CarGuys 06-02-2012 11:27 PM

Nice
 
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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 500572)
I simply loosen the fasteners holding the aluminum frame to the slab, pried it up and put a shim of about 1/16" under it and re-tightened. Invisible repair and water runs right out. For a shim use something that won't rust such as plastic. I used a large wire tie cut into pieces.
See where it puddles and do only that area.

Nice! Good idea Thanks!

PaPaLarry 06-03-2012 06:27 AM

Just get a "Wet Vac" and suck all the water up!!!!!:) LOL :a20::clap2::MOJE_whot:(just kidd'n) I just hose out the Lanoi, and then clean up the small debre after it drys with a vacuum. What would be nice, is a removable saddle by doorway, so you could unsnap saddle, hose everything out, and then snap saddle back into place?? (Maybe we will have someone come up with the idea)

getdul981 06-03-2012 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 500693)
Just get a "Wet Vac" and suck all the water up!!!!!:) LOL :a20::clap2::MOJE_whot:(just kidd'n) I just hose out the Lanoi, and then clean up the small debre after it drys with a vacuum. What would be nice, is a removable saddle by doorway, so you could unsnap saddle, hose everything out, and then snap saddle back into place?? (Maybe we will have someone come up with the idea)

That would be great! A removable threshhold at the doorway.

Shimpy 06-03-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by getdul981 (Post 500721)
That would be great! A removable threshhold at the doorway.

That's easy, just back out 3 or 4 screws and remove it. That's what I do when I pressure clean mine.

jgbama 06-03-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 500964)
That's easy, just back out 3 or 4 screws and remove it. That's what I do when I pressure clean mine.

Great idea! Sometimes we try to make something so hard we overlook the simple solution. KUDOS Shimpy!:highfive:

buzzy 06-03-2012 09:38 PM

One thing to consider is that these screws (usually Tapcons) are designed to go into concrete once, while cutting threads in the hole. They are not designed to be removed and reinstalled.

jimbo2012 06-03-2012 09:45 PM

threaded fitting can be epoxied into the concrete, and then use machine screws for easy removal.

getdul981 06-03-2012 09:55 PM

I'll have to check into that. I have some anchors that I could put into the concrete. I really hadn't looked at how the threshhold is installed. It is about time I washed the lanai though, so I guess I better check it soon.

trichard 06-04-2012 07:26 AM

I had a similar problem with water pooling after I tiled the lanai. After doing a lot of research I decided to try something before I invested money to solve the problem. I simply loosened the screws on the bottom rail until it came up about an eighth of an inch. Problem solved.

Shimpy 06-04-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 501094)
One thing to consider is that these screws (usually Tapcons) are designed to go into concrete once, while cutting threads in the hole. They are not designed to be removed and reinstalled.

This is true but I've done it several times and no problem, just snug them down, don't over torque them. I expect the threads in the concrete to give out eventually and then will go to threaded lead anchors.

Fourpar 10-23-2012 09:43 PM

Bogie,
Could you PM the same info to me? I appreciate it. :-)

Jawilkins35 01-03-2013 08:57 PM

Just drill weep holes with a drill bit .. Right on the bottom track next to the tile on the aluminum ... Drill holes and the water will drain ... No holes no ware for the water to go .. K.

Jawilkins35 01-03-2013 08:59 PM

Tile guys should of don this for you .. You need to drill holes ... It's is tile one on one lol .

LAshby50 03-15-2013 06:56 AM

lanai drainagae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 387374)
I finally found the card that a neighbor gave to me after she had lanai drains installed by a guy here in TV.
With all the delete not delete discussion going, I will PM you with the telephone number. (Don't want to upset anybody)

Do you have the number of the person who can fix the lanai drainage issue?
Why doesn't the builders include drainage when they build?


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