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Guest 09-03-2011 02:43 PM

Bachmann shows her Clan side now
 
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu3kdorvHE8[/ame]

This is not the republican history that I have known all my life.

Guest 09-03-2011 02:49 PM

Keith Olbermann? The most hate filled partisan hack the world has ever known. A man who was even "too leftist" for MSNBC? This is the news source for a self professed "conservative"

What a hatchet job this is.

Guest 09-03-2011 03:27 PM

Olbermann???? lololololololollolololololololololololol:jester:

Guest 09-03-2011 03:35 PM

For what it may be worth, I am totally disappoined that anyone would post that video on a site that I frequent.

Olbermann, the absolute king of edited videos...the man who is so filled with hate, that those on the left dont like him. It is dated, edited and simply trash. This is NOT political discussion, this is simply what I think they call in the internet world....flaming.

From my perspective this has nothing to do with left or right, Democrat or Republican, or the health bill for which this protest took place quite some time ago, but speaks to the type of rhetoric we have now.

Whomever looked this up and posted it was simply looking for trouble...simply trying to create a stir with more hate talk.

I feel EXACTLY the same way about the edited videos that surface from time to time on President Obama...this is really terrible.

Guest 09-03-2011 03:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389837)
For what it may be worth, I am totally disappoined that anyone would post that video on a site that I frequent.

Olbermann, the absolute king of edited videos...the man who is so filled with hate, that those on the left dont like him. It is dated, edited and simply trash. This is NOT political discussion, this is simply what I think they call in the internet world....flaming.

From my perspective this has nothing to do with left or right, Democrat or Republican, or the health bill for which this protest took place quite some time ago, but speaks to the type of rhetoric we have now.

Whomever looked this up and posted it was simply looking for trouble...simply trying to create a stir with more hate talk.

I feel EXACTLY the same way about the edited videos that surface from time to time on President Obama...this is really terrible.

I agree Bucco. Please, don't take the bait people. It is flame bait Bucco. Why would you search and post such an old video except to stir people up and try to start arguments. We are all better than that.

Guest 09-03-2011 03:40 PM

Oh, oh; now you've done it. Not only was this rejected, but also criticized. more candidates for the ignore button.

Guest 09-03-2011 03:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389839)
I agree Bucco. Please, don't take the bait people. It is flame bait Bucco. Why would you search and post such an old video except to stir people up and try to start arguments. We are all better than that.

You are absolutely correct.....I want those who post this trash to be shown on here.....I want them to be embarassed as they should. This poster is a con artist with his/her posts.....simply another flame thrower, and probably one of those who keep appearing on here with a new name....administrators have a tough job keeping them out...so lets flush them out for exactly what they are.....

How can people be filled with such hate ?

ps...You are right BK...should just ignore......but we just should not have to deal with crap like this. Whether you are Democratic or Republican, left of right, liberal or conservative or whatever....you should express your opinions but hatchet jobs and hate mongering have no place. I have learned so much in my years on here....from both sides, but now they dont even make any pretense about caring or wanting to discuss....just smear people....some kind of hate !

Guest 09-03-2011 03:46 PM

LOL Pretty soon they will be talking into an empty echo chamber. If everybody is on ignore, will there be anybody there to hear the lunacy?

Guest 09-03-2011 03:47 PM

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Guest 09-03-2011 03:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389846)
When I stated that a You Tube video had been obviously edited against President Obama, I was told by several members of the forum here that I was wrong. When your girl, Michelle Bachmann, is talking these hateful messages, the You Tube must be edited. Are we not serving the same sauce?

Can anyone put the entire "unedited" You Tube out here so we can see if it is indeed an edited and chopped clip? I would be very intereted to know the whole truth.

If this really is an edited clip by Olberman, it is terrible. If it is, though, what Bachmann said, she is terrible for doing so.

Let's see the "unedited" version, plese.


PLEASE put me on ignore whatever name you are using today !!! You wouldnt want to read about issues anyway...I dont try to smear so you wont be interested...PLEASE you promise...put me on ignore

Thank you

Guest 09-03-2011 03:54 PM

Bucco,

If you had noticed, about 2 minutes after posting my message, I deleted it. It was not worthy of posting. I checked the dating of the video and found it was over 2 years old.

Once again, I posted, I deleted, my bad. Hope you accept my apology for this previous post.

Guest 09-03-2011 04:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389847)
PLEASE put me on ignore whatever name you are using today !!! You wouldnt want to read about issues anyway...I dont try to smear so you wont be interested...PLEASE you promise...put me on ignore

Thank you

I'm on it and I feel much better thank-you, BuggyT or whoever he is. I do not mind being on his list, but then he keeps going on and on about me being on his list. Go figure.:jester:

Guest 09-03-2011 04:02 PM

We are not born with hate, it has to be learned.

Guest 09-03-2011 06:03 PM

That video was sickening with its slander and hate.

How did people listen to that creepy Olberman for so many years, and yet, it was FoxNews that Obama told his followers to turn off?!?!?!??!?

Guest 09-03-2011 06:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389927)
That video was sickening with its slander and hate.

How did people listen to that creepy Olberman for so many years, and yet, it was FoxNews that Obama told his followers to turn off?!?!?!??!?

Yes, Olbermann was a bit over the top sometimes.....but no more than Hannity or Beck or Limbaugh or Van Sustern or Doocey or Cavuto or on and on ad nauseum. :cus:

Guest 09-03-2011 08:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389929)
Yes, Olbermann was a bit over the top sometimes.....but no more than Hannity or Beck or Limbaugh or Van Sustern or Doocey or Cavuto or on and on ad nauseum. :cus:

Could you show us the link of the videos that Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh etc. edited ?:jester:

Guest 09-03-2011 09:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389979)
Could you show us the link of the videos that Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh etc. edited ?:jester:

Of course he can't find one, because there isn't any. To compare any commentator mentioned to the total odiousness that is Keith Olbermann is ludicrous. Olbermann was fired by left wing media because he was too radical and hateful. That about says it all.

Guest 09-04-2011 05:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 389837)
For what it may be worth, I am totally disappointed that anyone would post that video on a site that I frequent.

Olbermann, the absolute king of edited videos...the man who is so filled with hate, that those on the left dont like him. It is dated, edited and simply trash. This is NOT political discussion, this is simply what I think they call in the internet world....flaming.

From my perspective this has nothing to do with left or right, Democrat or Republican, or the health bill for which this protest took place quite some time ago, but speaks to the type of rhetoric we have now.

Whomever looked this up and posted it was simply looking for trouble...simply trying to create a stir with more hate talk.

I feel EXACTLY the same way about the edited videos that surface from time to time on President Obama...this is really terrible.

I went back and did better research on this video. Your right, its old and I should have looked twice before posting. Sorry, I let my opinion of Bachmann run blind. I dropped the ball here. I have never been able to watch Olbermann so I should have known better.

Sorry I posted this one and thank you all for pointing it out. This is the stuff that will even stop the jerk train from running out of control. Keep on keeping everyone honest and fair and this board will turn into the site we can all respect.

Sincere Apologies,
The Villager II

:oops:

Guest 09-04-2011 08:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390035)
I went back and did better research on this video. Your right, its old and I should have looked twice before posting. Sorry, I let my opinion of Bachmann run blind. I dropped the ball here. I have never been able to watch Olbermann so I should have known better.

Sorry I posted this one and thank you all for pointing it out. This is the stuff that will even stop the jerk train from running out of control. Keep on keeping everyone honest and fair and this board will turn into the site we can all respect.

Sincere Apologies,
The Villager II

:oops:

Who or what is this "jerk train" you keep referring to? Are you part of this "jerk train" or is it just the people you do not agree with? About time you stopped with the name-calling!!!

Guest 09-04-2011 08:52 AM

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Who or what is this "jerk train" you keep referring to? Are you part of this "jerk train" or is it just the people you do not agree with? About time you stopped with the name-calling!!!

The jerk train is anyone that slings insults at other members as opposed to debating or discussing a topic. I use that because I have enough respect for everyone on this board never to use a login name. Its not name calling, its a less agressive way of referring to board members that insult other members with personal attacks. I think speaking in general terms is more sensitive to others feelings.

Guest 09-04-2011 08:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390105)
The jerk train is anyone that slings insults at other members as opposed to debating or discussing a topic. I use that because I have enough respect for everyone on this board never to use a login name. Its not name calling, its a less agressive way of referring to board members that insult other members with personal attacks. I think speaking in general terms is more sensitive to others feelings.

Sorry, it just does not come out right to me. But it will pass, time to go golfing now. T-Time in less then an hour.


CHEERS

Guest 09-04-2011 09:00 AM

Ummm.. Beck got in trouble for using the wrong footage of gatherings in D.C. to make his rally, and rallies he sympathized with, look bigger than they actually were. In some cases you could see the weather completely at odds with what was supposed to be going on (overcast when it should have been clear, etc).

Beck later said that it was a mistake in editing by his staff. Yet he crowed about how small his staff was (compared to The Daily Show) when he was saying his goodbyes. Made it a bit more difficult to believe he didn't know.

Guest 09-04-2011 09:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390110)
Sorry, it just does not come out right to me. But it will pass, time to go golfing now. T-Time in less then an hour.


CHEERS

Yea, me too. I think I have the game figured out now and will shoot less than a 100 today.

Guest 09-04-2011 11:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390112)
Ummm.. Beck got in trouble for using the wrong footage of gatherings in D.C. to make his rally, and rallies he sympathized with, look bigger than they actually were. In some cases you could see the weather completely at odds with what was supposed to be going on (overcast when it should have been clear, etc).

Beck later said that it was a mistake in editing by his staff. Yet he crowed about how small his staff was (compared to The Daily Show) when he was saying his goodbyes. Made it a bit more difficult to believe he didn't know.

I would like to see some link to that story, because with all my reading I've never come across this, and with all the rabid Beck hate I doubt I would have missed this.

Please provide some proof of these "altered photos" claim you're making because that is quite a charge. Even CBS News aerial photo experts are just quibbling with Beck's people over the analyzation of the photo's crowd finding's numbers. It doesn't portend to claim that Beck or his staff fabricated anything.

Guest 09-04-2011 12:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390178)
I would like to see some link to that story, because with all my reading I've never come across this, and with all the rabid Beck hate I doubt I would have missed this.

Please provide some proof of these "altered photos" claim you're making because that is quite a charge. Even CBS News aerial photo experts are just quibbling with Beck's people over the analyzation of the photo's crowd finding's numbers. It doesn't portend to claim that Beck or his staff fabricated anything.

I actually looked for the story after I read djplong's comments. I couldn't find anything. I'm glad you requested this, @Richie. I'd like to see what I missed.

Guest 09-04-2011 12:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390186)
I actually looked for the story after I read djplong's comments. I couldn't find anything. I'm glad you requested this, @Richie. I'd like to see what I missed.

My research came up with:

Glenn Beck did not say how many attended, but did say he was told that between 300,000 and 500,000 were in attendance. The final tally came to 78,000. Not half a million, but a large crowd none the less. I think Glenn gets a free pass on this one.

Guest 09-04-2011 12:45 PM

http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-...owd-size-20473

"We are humbled that you are here," he continued. "The reflecting pool holds about 200,000 people. This field back here holds about 250 to 300,000 people. They are not only full here, they're full in that field, they're full behind me, and they are now across the street approaching the Washington Monument."

Guest 09-04-2011 12:56 PM

Thank you, iaudit and TheVillagesII, I have seen those discussions before.

What I was talking about was this statement by djplong. Note: I added the bold text to show what I couldn't find reference about. "Ummm.. Beck got in trouble for using the wrong footage of gatherings in D.C. to make his rally, and rallies he sympathized with, look bigger than they actually were. In some cases you could see the weather completely at odds with what was supposed to be going on (overcast when it should have been clear, etc).

"Beck later said that it was a mistake in editing by his staff. Yet he crowed about how small his staff was (compared to The Daily Show) when he was saying his goodbyes. Made it a bit more difficult to believe he didn't know
."

Guest 09-06-2011 04:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 390178)
I would like to see some link to that story, because with all my reading I've never come across this, and with all the rabid Beck hate I doubt I would have missed this.

Please provide some proof of these "altered photos" claim you're making because that is quite a charge. Even CBS News aerial photo experts are just quibbling with Beck's people over the analyzation of the photo's crowd finding's numbers. It doesn't portend to claim that Beck or his staff fabricated anything.

Ok, I goofed.

Beck's footage was used - but it was used by HANNITY to make the anti-Obamacare rally look bigger than it actually was. He was using the footage from Beck's rally.

It took some digging, but I did finally find the clip that I was thinking of:

http://vodpod.com/watch/2500379-dail...rotest-footage

Mea culpa. I inadvertantly remembered Beck (and forgot Hannity) from this 2009 story and when I saw Beck's farewell speech dig at Jon Stewart THIS year, well, that's how I put the two together when I shouldn't have.

Guest 09-06-2011 04:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391057)
Ok, I goofed.

Beck's footage was used - but it was used by HANNITY to make the anti-Obamacare rally look bigger than it actually was. He was using the footage from Beck's rally.

It took some digging, but I did finally find the clip that I was thinking of:

http://vodpod.com/watch/2500379-dail...rotest-footage

Mea culpa. I inadvertantly remembered Beck (and forgot Hannity) from this 2009 story and when I saw Beck's farewell speech dig at Jon Stewart THIS year, well, that's how I put the two together when I shouldn't have.

I think the conclusion is that BIAS runs rampant on both sides, and nobody should be relying on just one or two sources of news on t.v. or online.

Also, nobody should be relying on just "entertainers" and their commentary some call "News Programming".

Guest 09-06-2011 04:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391064)
I think the conclusion is that BIAS runs rampant on both sides, and nobody should be relying on just one or two sources of news on t.v. or online.

Also, nobody should be relying on just "entertainers" and their commentary some call "News Programming".

You may call some commentators "entertainers" to demean their importance to the discussions at hand because you don't like what they have to say, but that will only satisfy your partisan bias, and not the political reality of their influence.

Guest 09-06-2011 06:44 PM

Richie: Would you differentiate between Glenn Beck and, say, Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert?

I call them ALL entertainers because that's what they are.

Guest 09-06-2011 06:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391114)
Richie: Would you differentiate between Glenn Beck and, say, Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert?

I call them ALL entertainers because that's what they are.

At least Beck tries to educate people and is not a slander machine like the other two.

Guest 09-06-2011 07:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391114)
Richie: Would you differentiate between Glenn Beck and, say, Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert?

I call them ALL entertainers because that's what they are.

They beg differentiation. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin and Glenn Beck are commentators first, and find humor in the subject matter at times. Jon Stewart; a little less so on the commentary first. Stewart primarily uses humor first, to illustrate his commentary and is often brilliant. Colbert, IMHO, is primarily a clown; good for a laugh at someone else's expense (at least if the object of scorn is a Republican). Bill Maher is just a hateful miscreant who thinks defaming Republican's is a spectator sport, and the excuse for his venom is, "I'm just a comedian".

That's my analysis.............back to you, Chet.

Guest 09-06-2011 09:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391116)
At least Beck tries to educate people and is not a slander machine like the other two.

About the only thing about Beck that resembles an educator is his chalkboard. His words to me sound like fingernails scraping across it. :cus:

Guest 09-06-2011 09:25 PM

At least Glenn Beck can form a sentence without the help of a teleprompter.

Guest 09-06-2011 09:31 PM

I personally think that Glen Beck would kick B.Hussein Obama's butt in a debate without Obama's 30 writers and 12 teleprompters.

Guest 09-06-2011 09:45 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391196)
I personally think that Glen Beck would kick B.Hussein Obama's butt in a debate without Obama's 30 writers and 12 teleprompters.

I'd buy a ticket to see that, as long as it isn't moderated by the liberal media...http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/1/throwing-up.gif

Guest 09-06-2011 09:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391190)
At least Glenn Beck can form a sentence without the help of a teleprompter.

Again with the teleprompter. That's getting like nails across a chalkboard too. :cus:

Guest 09-06-2011 09:53 PM

Glenn Beck provides no useful contribution to mankind. He is only out for the money. :cus:


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