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Guest 09-19-2011 09:12 AM

Debt reduction
 
Today the president is going to talk of a tax increase to the wealthy. Well listen that is the beginning of equalizing wealth which is a socialism which we know did not work in Russia. Every thing the politictions do is short term.I agree we need to change tax laws but not this way. He created another crisis by not demanding a budget and we all (know never waste a good crisis). When in the h--l are the people of the U.S going to learn and push for impeachment this guy is absolutly no good for this country. His agenda is to destroy this country. Could you imagine if we still had a democratic house. We would really be in deep s---. Wheather any one wants to agree it is a good thing the tea party is as strong as it is. Yes our current situation is not the best but what the preident is trying to do will be worse its time to face facts. This is just MO S---

Guest 09-19-2011 09:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396203)
Today the president is going to talk of a tax increase to the wealthy. Well listen that is the beginning of equalizing wealth which is a socialism which we know did not work in Russia. Every thing the politictions do is short term.I agree we need to change tax laws but not this way. He created another crisis by not demanding a budget and we all (know never waste a good crisis). When in the h--l are the people of the U.S going to learn and push for impeachment this guy is absolutly no good for this country. His agenda is to destroy this country. Could you imagine if we still had a democratic house. We would really be in deep s---. Wheather any one wants to agree it is a good thing the tea party is as strong as it is. Yes our current situation is not the best but what the preident is trying to do will be worse its time to face facts. This is just MO S---


:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

Guest 09-19-2011 11:15 AM

proud dem (moonbat)
 
This plan is nothing more than restoring the tax rates that were in place prior to gw taking office...That would be the last time the budget was actually balanced...Time for the uber rich and their corp lackeys,that have lived off the labor of the middle class, pay up their fair share..No more subsidies for our god, Exon and his supporters, the uber rich...there are thieves in the henhouse...guarding the chickens...Thanks congress for your great job...See you in the "help wanted" line in the next election...

Guest 09-19-2011 11:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396253)
This plan is nothing more than restoring the tax rates that were in place prior to gw taking office...That would be the last time the budget was actually balanced...Time for the uber rich and their corp lackeys,that have lived off the labor of the middle class, pay up their fair share..No more subsidies for our god, Exon and his supporters, the uber rich...there are thieves in the henhouse...guarding the chickens...Thanks congress for your great job...See you in the "help wanted" line in the next election...

true- we were in the black under clinton...GW reduced the taxes on his buddies in big busines and made some other splendid decisions that had us in the red when he left office. going back to old tax rates is NOT socialism. You folks are throwing around that word in very uninformed ways....

Guest 09-19-2011 11:24 AM

The rich are always going to be rich. What have you got against them? Are you jealous. Is this the class envy thing? See how class envy is working out in England. I have never worked for a poor man. I have met some delightful rich people and some not so delightful rich people, but of course I can say the same thing about poor or middle class people.
Businesses always plan ahead for capital purchases and expansion. Sometime years ahead. When they knew that Mr. Wealth Redistributer Obama was going to get in office, they stopped plans for expansion and held onto their money and stopped hiring. Sometimes, it really is that simple.

:pepper2: VOTE NOBAMA 2012

Guest 09-19-2011 11:27 AM

proud dem (moonbat)
 
Class warfare is not a new thing....it was declared on the middle class by gw and that's a fact...what's new is the attack on seniors using the word entitlement to describe social security.

Guest 09-19-2011 01:44 PM

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The rich are always going to be rich. What have you got against them? Are you jealous. Is this the class envy thing? See how class envy is working out in England. I have never worked for a poor man. I have met some delightful rich people and some not so delightful rich people, but of course I can say the same thing about poor or middle class people.
Businesses always plan ahead for capital purchases and expansion. Sometime years ahead. When they knew that Mr. Wealth Redistributer Obama was going to get in office, they stopped plans for expansion and held onto their money and stopped hiring. Sometimes, it really is that simple.

:pepper2: VOTE NOBAMA 2012

I understand what your saying, but your wrong.

Guest 09-19-2011 01:47 PM

Can you imagine if we hadn't spent billions and billions looking for imaginary WMD's in Iraq?

Guest 09-19-2011 01:51 PM

You sure got that right, coralway. It also took the lives of over 4,400 American lives.

Guest 09-19-2011 02:11 PM

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You sure got that right, coralway. It also took the lives of over 4,400 American lives.

Yea, but we killed a few truck loads of terrorists and made this country more safe.

:pepper2:

Guest 09-19-2011 02:13 PM

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Can you imagine if we hadn't spent billions and billions looking for imaginary WMD's in Iraq?

Thank you for the reminder. They forget how bad Bush was...or never realized it....

Guest 09-19-2011 02:19 PM

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Thank you for the reminder. They forget how bad Bush was...or never realized it....

Actually after over 2 1/2 years of Obama we are just now realizing how good Bush was. Don't you miss President Bush?

:pepper2:

Guest 09-19-2011 02:19 PM

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Thank you for the reminder. They forget how bad Bush was...or never realized it....

You assume we were all supporters of Bush. At least when he was in office, my place of business was thriving. Since Obama has been in office, it has had to close. My new position has required me to lay-off at least 7 of the 40+ that work(ed) under me, in the short 2 years that I have been there! Will be even worse when Obamacare really kicks in...:sad:

Guest 09-19-2011 04:55 PM

proud dem (moonbat)
 
katz,maybe the reason your buisness is so bad is you are always on a computer....Bush will be forever remembered as absolutely the worst president in our history...I do miss him though as I had a lot of laughs at his expense..No one can be as stupid as him...Karl Rove saved his bacon...

Guest 09-19-2011 05:03 PM

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katz,maybe the reason your buisness is so bad is you are always on a computer....Bush will be forever remembered as absolutely the worst president in our history...I do miss him though as I had a lot of laughs at his expense..No one can be as stupid as him...Karl Rove saved his bacon...

HA, that's pretty funny! I laughed out loud. I'm just on vacation and it happens to have been raining alot. Wasn't my business anyway, I just worked there, as I work for my current employer.

Guest 09-19-2011 05:14 PM

George W. Bush definitely was the worst president in history of the USA.

Guest 09-19-2011 05:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396439)
George W. Bush definitely was the worst president in history of the USA.

Maybe, maybe not. Think that I will reserve judgement until the end of the O period and see who we get next.

Guest 09-19-2011 05:57 PM

I just dont understand the trust you folks have for O bamy but will admitt I didnt like what Bush did with 911. You can say I still beleive that was put on at the expence of 3000 people. You want to go back to Clinton he is the one that told Binladin to stop using satilite phones to set up his attacks. So I guess no president is safe. My concern is what Obama is doing and how he is going about it. It smells like 3 day fish

Guest 09-19-2011 05:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396439)
George W. Bush definitely was the worst president in history of the USA.

Time will tell, long after we are all gone.

Guest 09-19-2011 06:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396430)
katz,maybe the reason your buisness is so bad is you are always on a computer....Bush will be forever remembered as absolutely the worst president in our history...I do miss him though as I had a lot of laughs at his expense..No one can be as stupid as him...Karl Rove saved his bacon...

No one? How many colleges did you go to? He had better grades then Al Gore and John Kerry. He was a jet pilot. When you say statements like that, who do you think your convincing? If no one could be as stupid as him, I'm willing to bet that you cannot prove that you are smarter then him. Up for the challenge?

Guest 09-19-2011 08:37 PM

proud dem (moonbat)
 
of course not my tea party friend...I'm not the President....And bushisms are famous...BTW he was almost kicked out of the military for partying, his gf was just a little "under the weather', and he had substance abuse problems...Fine upstanding citizen..Good to have the right daddy...My god he had the same lawyers Richard Nixon had....

Guest 09-19-2011 08:59 PM

I do not recall George Walker Bush's college transcripts being made public.

If I am mistaken, please tell me what sites on the Internet have them.

Thank you.

Guest 09-19-2011 09:11 PM

http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp

Here is one link...now you can start to change the point of your post.

Guest 09-19-2011 10:12 PM

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of course not my tea party friend...I'm not the President....And bushisms are famous...BTW he was almost kicked out of the military for partying, his gf was just a little "under the weather', and he had substance abuse problems...Fine upstanding citizen..Good to have the right daddy...My god he had the same lawyers Richard Nixon had....

Your man Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep his records sealed. He has admitted to doing drugs and he still smokes cigarettes and drinks alcohol. His Obamarisms are famous also, what is your point? Until Obama came around Jimmy Carter was considered the worst President ever. Jimmy Carter is finally relieved.

VOTE NOBAMA 2012:pepper2:

Guest 09-19-2011 10:46 PM

Let me see if I understand this correctly.

George Bush was in their opinion the worst president ever in America.

George Bush was president.

The tea party is racist.

Republicans are racist.

Look what President Bush did.

Bush was president.

Rich people are evil.

I could go on and on but I understand correctly the trolls, read liberal moonbats find that the above reasons are all of the reasons to vote for Barack Obama 2012.

Is there anything that Barack Obama has done to deserve a little from the American people? The trolls never mentioned it.

Vote Republican in 2012. Vote for any Republican. Do not vote for an independent or third-party as that would be a vote for Barack Obama.

If you have some reasons why we should vote for Barack Obama had loved to hear them. What has he done?

This is where the trolls will enter all of the information about former President Bush the tea party and Republicans. I doubt very much if I will see anything mentioned that Barack Obama did that turned out positive. Unless, you want to include destroying our economy as a positive.

Just some thoughts.

Guest 09-19-2011 11:33 PM

Good post.

My thoughts,

George Bush received most of his votes for President because he was running against mediocre democrat rival.

The boorish Gore lost it for the democrats. A much better candidate would have sealed it for their party.
With America at war, and not likely to switch Presidents, again the democrats ran the even more boorish, fake war hero, Kerry. Kerry tried to run as a man who could command our forces overseas. When it was revealed he was a fake, of course Bush got voted in again. Democrats will not admit that they picked the wrong candidates to run for president. Period.
Now comes 2008 and the Republicans did not learn a thing. They pick a boring RINO to run against an inexperienced community organizer with no track record and a sealed history which the media refused to investigate.
Now we are stuck with an inexperienced chief executive who is way over his head. This guy has no clue what so ever.
Our only hope for the USA to kick this Great Depression is to start over and vote for someone who has real experience in the private sector.

Our only hope is to vote Republican. Period.

Guest 09-20-2011 03:46 AM

since the mode of thinking by some is to always, consistently snap back or flash back and measure everything by comparing to the Bush-dids or Bush-didnots....hypothetically speaking...I wonder what the future of their mode of think-back would be if Hillary somehow got nominated and elected...at every bump in the road or when something does not go quite right will there be a plethora of Obama-did and Obama-didnots to blame?
Just wondering...and amusing myself:laugh:

btk

Guest 09-20-2011 08:57 AM

Katz,

Thank you for the "transcript" link. Personally, I would not take it as any proof of being a real transcript. The Disclaimer of the site is self-explanatory:

"GeorgeWBush.org is a digital parody of the Official 2004 Campaign Website of President George W. Bush. GeorgeWBush.org uses the names and images of public figures for purposes of satire. Any other names are invented. The content of this web site should in no way be construed as factual. GeorgeWBush.org is intended for mature audiences, and should not be accessed by persons under 18 years of age"

It states that the content in no way should be construed as factual.

'Nuff said.

Guest 09-20-2011 11:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396439)
George W. Bush definitely was the worst president in history of the USA.

There's a VERY interesting chart on Wikipedia (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori..._United_States )

What's really interesting is that it show NUMEROUS rankings of the President - starting with the Schlesinger 1948 poll and then adds a column for the 'aggregate' ranking.

In the aggregate - the averaging of the polls, the following Presidents are rated 'in red', as in the 'least best' ranking (Lincoln, FDR and Washington are ranked 1-2-3):

33 - Benjamin Harrison
34 - George W. Bush (GHWB came in at 22nd, tied with Taft)
35 - Taylor
36 - Tyler
37 - Grant
38 - William Henry Harrison & Fillmore (tie)
40 - Pierce
41 - Andrew Johnson
42 - Buchanan
43 - Harding

Interestingly, Nixon was consistently "in the red group" as worst ever until recently and now his average ranked 32nd.

Carter came in at 27th.

Guest 09-20-2011 04:16 PM

DJPlong has a very interesting table to consider.

Jimmy Carter is ranked 7 places ABOVE George W. Bush.

Richard Nixon is ranked 2 places ABOVE George W. Bush.

While the table does not show Bush as the last ranked president, it sure shows him favored a lot worse than Jimmy Carter. That is really somethng for the G'Nopers to think about.

Guest 09-20-2011 04:30 PM

The longer a president is removed from office the more time to evaluate. Many Presidents left office with unfavorable ratings and as time proceeded the ratings improved.

To judge a President out of office for less then three years is folly and irresponsible to say the least. Besides, everybody knows that Jimmy Carter was the worst president ever until Barack Hussein Obama came along.

VOTE NOBAMA 2012:pepper2:

Guest 09-20-2011 04:33 PM

to be fair....yea right....one needs to know the basis on which these rankings were formulated...and by whom?

On the internet one can find anything to fit their purpose...we just need to know what that might be....other than the old R and D pigeon holes that so many seem to only have.

btk

Guest 09-20-2011 06:41 PM

Once again with the bigotry of the 3 names of YOUR President. Pathetic, to say the least.

Guest 09-20-2011 06:47 PM

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Once again with the bigotry of the 3 names of YOUR President. Pathetic, to say the least.

How does using a man's full name equal bigotry? It is his name and he doesn't seem embarrassed by it, why are you?

Guest 09-20-2011 07:04 PM

You know very well it is bigotry. Did you constantly refer to George W. Bush by all 3 names, Jimmy Carter as James Earl Carter, or John F. Kennedy as John Fitzgerald Kennedy? The answer is NO, you did not. Just because YOUR President is a minority and has a name that is not mainstream white, bigots constantly refer to the full name - maybe just to try and remind others that this man is not one of them.

I have heard some say "He used his full name in the oath of office." All the presidents do that.

Grow up. This is the leader of America. Have respect for him - and yourself.

'Nuff said.

Guest 09-20-2011 07:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396854)
How does using a man's full name equal bigotry? It is his name and he doesn't seem embarrassed by it, why are you?

Good question. The media and his campaign machine totally avoided the middle name during the election, but he seemed very proud to have it included during his swearing in. TBug is way off base, but his drinking water might be responsible?

VOTE NOBAMA 2012:pepper2:

Guest 09-20-2011 08:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396860)
You know very well it is bigotry. Did you constantly refer to George W. Bush by all 3 names, Jimmy Carter as James Earl Carter, or John F. Kennedy as John Fitzgerald Kennedy? The answer is NO, you did not. Just because YOUR President is a minority and has a name that is not mainstream white, bigots constantly refer to the full name - maybe just to try and remind others that this man is not one of them.

I have heard some say "He used his full name in the oath of office." All the presidents do that.

Grow up. This is the leader of America. Have respect for him - and yourself.

'Nuff said.

How do you dare to make a such a comment as-"you know very well such and such". No, I DO NOT THINK IT IS BIGOTRY! BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS THE MAN'S NAME! He has a WHITE MOTHER AND A BLACK FATHER AND AN ARABIC NAME!!!! To which group of people is it bigotrous to? The guy is his own melting pot and that spells out what it means to be an AMERICAN! Not sure I am the one who needs to grow up and/or get a grip on reality.
SHOW RESPECT?!? That is the name he chose to be used as he was inagurated as the President of the United States of America! He apparently is proud of his whole name, as I would be of my entire name if I were to be sworn into that office. What is your deal? Maybe you are the one who has a problem with him...? Your reaction does nothing more than pervert his name in order for you to use it as some kind of ax to grind with those who are not too happy with him. Too bad! Makes it difficult to have a GROWN UP discussion with you.

Guest 09-20-2011 08:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396860)
You know very well it is bigotry. Did you constantly refer to George W. Bush by all 3 names, Jimmy Carter as James Earl Carter, or John F. Kennedy as John Fitzgerald Kennedy? The answer is NO, you did not. Just because YOUR President is a minority and has a name that is not mainstream white, bigots constantly refer to the full name - maybe just to try and remind others that this man is not one of them.

I have heard some say "He used his full name in the oath of office." All the presidents do that.

Grow up. This is the leader of America. Have respect for him - and yourself.

'Nuff said.

Whole house water filter? Man, get ahold of yourself or we are going to take your Man Card away.:ohdear:

Guest 09-20-2011 09:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396890)
........ That is the name he chose to be used as he was inagurated as the President of the United States of America! ........

Here are videos of the two Bush's and Clinton being sworn in, in all cases they use their middle names. Can you tell us when there middle names were used in describing them when they were in office, other than to distinguish the two Bush's on occasion. The only reason Hussein is being used is to irritate and incite people, it serves no other purpose. If it does serve a legitimate purpose, please enlighten the masses.

Bush Swearing In

[ame]http://wwwIn.youtube.com/watch?v=QfmEwFwWnrU&feature=related[/ame]

Clinton Swearing In

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM3AAyWfRgE&feature=related[/ame]

Bush I swearing in

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVGK8THLXxk&feature=related[/ame]

Guest 09-20-2011 09:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 396917)
Here are videos of the two Bush's and Clinton being sworn in, in all cases they use their middle names. Can you tell us when there middle names were used in describing them when they were in office, other than to distinguish the two Bush's on occasion. The only reason Hussein is being used is to irritate and incite people, it serves no other purpose. If it does serve a legitimate purpose, please enlighten the masses.

How does the man's middle name irritate and incite people? I still contend it is only bothersome to those who see the world thru their racially tinted glasses. Those of us who see people as people haven't got a clue what your point might be. Beauty is often in the eye of the beholder...dare I say the same for racial biases?


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