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Guest 10-06-2011 10:09 PM

Pelosi on Occupy Wall Street Protesters: " God bless them"
 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...em_595117.html

Guest 10-06-2011 10:41 PM

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It's been days now while I've been waiting for someone to defend the 1%. But I've won my bet and correctly predicted the poster who would step up!

So it seems even 99% isn't enough to convince some folks that there is real social and economic inequity in America, and that this is a colossal problem. The history of nations repeatedly and unequivocally has demonstrated the opposite.

Guest 10-06-2011 10:59 PM

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It's been days now while I've been waiting for someone to defend the 1%. But I've won my bet and correctly predicted the poster who would step up!

So it seems even 99% isn't enough to convince some folks that there is real social and economic inequity in America, and that this is a colossal problem. The history of nations repeatedly and unequivocally has demonstrated the opposite.

So your saying we should be a socialist society? If that was truly the case then we would not have The Villages. A socialist society would deem us too rich to live in such a place. They would raze this place and build huts for all the people to live.

Guest 10-07-2011 06:58 AM

villagegolfer, the "Occupy Wallstreet" protesters call themselves the 99 percent. The 99 percent is in contrast, they say, to the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans who they claim get breaks others don't.

Guest 10-07-2011 07:51 AM

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I have no idea what you are spewing but it sounds like you are attacking me.



Are you saying that your in line with Pelosi?:MOJE_whot:

Duh!!!! :cus:

Guest 10-07-2011 08:17 AM

I think it is ironic that the "99 percent" tweet, blog and post from iphones and other gadgets that were developed, marketed and sold by free market-free thinkers who didn't have "people over profits" in mind when they
worked to pursue their own self-interests. It also makes me shake my head to see them joined by Hollywood elite and labor unions. We know they are not looking at profits. Right?

Guest 10-07-2011 08:21 AM

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I think it is ironic that the "99 percent" tweet, blog and post from iphones and other gadgets that were developed, marketed and sold by free market-free thinkers who didn't have "people over profits" in mind when they
worked to pursue their own self-interests. It also makes me shake my head to see them joined by Hollywood elite and labor unions. We know they are not looking at profits. Right?

:agree: Very well said.

Guest 10-07-2011 08:51 AM

Home Ownership Drops to Depression Levels
 
How's that Hopey-Changey Stuff Workin' Out for Ya?



http://www.bizjournals.com/mobile/me...-drops-to.html

Guest 10-07-2011 09:08 AM

Economic Terrorist
 
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It's been days now while I've been waiting for someone to defend the 1%. But I've won my bet and correctly predicted the poster who would step up!

So it seems even 99% isn't enough to convince some folks that there is real social and economic inequity in America, and that this is a colossal problem. The history of nations repeatedly and unequivocally has demonstrated the opposite.

http://patriotupdate.com/13054/meet-...-street-terror


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Astroturfed means that the demonstration was manufactured to give the false appearance that it was a public groundswell.
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...#ixzz1a4iAQK2l

Guest 10-07-2011 10:21 AM

I don't know about you, but I worked hard for what I have, both my wife and I did. Why would I want to share with someone who has done nothing but keep their hand out for handouts. Work and eat or don't work and don't eat, your choice. I am getting tried of the continual government handouts to the unions and those that are to lazy to work.

Time for a regime change in Foggy Bottom. Time to elect those that will work for the good of America and not for the good of their re-election.

Guest 10-07-2011 11:34 AM

There are tons of entry level jobs going wanting. If the cuddling parents with 20-45 year olds living in the cellar, would kick them in the rear, the jobs would be filled quickly.

Guest 10-07-2011 01:53 PM

I do volunteer work at the Christian Food Pantry in Lady Lake. Obviously, it sounds as though the word "Christian" does not mean anything to you. Well, lots of uber-conservatives tout themselves as good Christians or Jews but when it comes to helping those who need help, they would rather kick them in the teeth than to give help when needed.

Guest 10-07-2011 02:40 PM

The Wall Street protests are the work of the Obama White House in that he continues his message of class warfare and it is a hateful and dangerous message.

The reason is simple Obama needs votes badly. That's why the unions are so heavily involved.

Also it is a counter offensive against the Tea Party movement which has frightened the delights out of the Dems.

The saving grace is that many Dems are keep a arm's length distance.


A CPA wrote an article in the Wall Street about "Moe the Millionaire. It seems he got himself a two year degree from a local community college and worked in insurance starting out at $9.000. Over the years he purchased a home for $95,000. He invested his money in a company his friends had started. We advance to his retiring. His house is now worth $450,000. he has no IRA or 401k but his friends are selling their business and he made a handsome profit of $950,000. Moe is now a millionaire and Obama wants an additional 5%.

Does this story resonate with at least half the people in The Villages

Prior to the mis-handling of our economy by OB many of our IRA's, etc were coming along nicely. Add up your assets and get ready because if you think OB's and the Dems plans to add a 5% tax on millionaires is going to fly, forget it. Because the really rich will just move their money to places you and I can't go and OB will continually drop the threshold of who gets taxed an additional 5%. If you don't agree think Alternative Minimum Tax because that was suppose to hit only the wealthy.

Finally OB once again invokes that "strawman" to deflect his inability. Now its millionaires who are the problem.

As I recollect from history there was a European leader who blamed all of his country's ills on a class of greedy and manuplative people.

Obviously, I do not believe that physical harm would come to millionaires but the consequences from trying to punish them because they are good at being profitable can be as dangerous.

If anyone believes they will be better off financially following Obama plans they may want to review our history for just the last 60 years.

The Wall Street protester are badly in need of an education

Guest 10-07-2011 08:24 PM

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I think my above comments apply well to your posts here as well. You sound like a schoolyard bully who can only think of global smears and accusations when confronted by simple facts. You can holler 'socialism' or be indignant about all the lazy people who are so inferior to you, but you cannot change these simple facts:

Since 2007 there are MILLIONS of hard working, honest Americans who have, through no fault of their own, lost their jobs, homes, businesses and/or life savings. It's a real problem, a serious threat to our nation.

The answer isn't socialism, which the naive college students being exploited by George Soros and the unions are wittingly or unwittingly calling for. Socialism is just the sharing of the misery, and that's been proven over and over every single time it's been tried, anywhere in the world, anytime it's been tried.

Someone disagrees with you and you have to call them a name to marginalize them. The name this time is, again, "bully". You say it and then think you made some point. It's misguided.

Guest 10-07-2011 08:37 PM

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So your saying we should be a socialist society? If that was truly the case then we would not have The Villages. A socialist society would deem us too rich to live in such a place. They would raze this place and build huts for all the people to live.

No, a Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or Cuba style regime would not raze this place. They would promise it "For Free" to all the "ambitious", "productive" and "self-supporting" protesters whiling away the hours on Wall Street.

People who truly want a job are either on the job, or they are out on the streets and interstate highways, LOOKING seriously for a job.

Also, people who truly want a job are intent upon presenting themselves as EMPLOYABLE, as in showing a can-do ATTITUDE, and showing behavior that is adult-like and willing to be SUBORDINATE to an employer/boss.

Showing up like a dirty, swearing, unkempt bum who's defacating in public places is not the way people present themselves on national t.v. when they seriously want to find a job.

Guest 10-08-2011 08:04 AM

:BigApplause:...What FIGMO said!

Guest 10-08-2011 09:02 AM

We can agree to disagree but we ask that the discussions stay on the topic and not toward the member. Thanks in advance.

Guest 10-08-2011 10:30 AM

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I don't know about you, but I worked hard for what I have, both my wife and I did. Why would I want to share with someone who has done nothing but keep their hand out for handouts. Work and eat or don't work and don't eat, your choice. I am getting tried of the continual government handouts to the unions and those that are to lazy to work.

Time for a regime change in Foggy Bottom. Time to elect those that will work for the good of America and not for the good of their re-election.

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Guest 10-08-2011 11:03 AM

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I don't know about you, but I worked hard for what I have, both my wife and I did. Why would I want to share with someone who has done nothing but keep their hand out for handouts. Work and eat or don't work and don't eat, your choice. I am getting tried of the continual government handouts to the unions and those that are to lazy to work.

Time for a regime change in Foggy Bottom. Time to elect those that will work for the good of America and not for the good of their re-election.

Man, you said it brother. My wife and I started from scratch (second marriage for both of us) while we were in our early 30's. Small apartment. I worked nights to put here through college. She worked nights and weekends as a waitress. It took 5 years of 60 hour work-weeks before we could save enough for starter home.
No sympathy for free loaders. Plenty of entry level jobs. Look at the Apple founder. No college and started business in family garage. He created thousands of jobs and made live better for millions. This is a great country.
We need to restore the spirit of free enterprise and get those bums out of Washington.

Guest 10-08-2011 12:07 PM

Bloomberg: Protestors trying to destroy city's jobs

"(Reuters) - New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg accused anti-Wall Street protesters on Friday of trying to destroy jobs in the city, even as he said he was sympathetic to some of their complaints.......

"What they're trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city," Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show, adding that the protests "aren't productive" and weren't good for tourism.

"If the jobs they are trying to get rid of in this city -- the people that work in finance, which is a big part of our economy -- go away, we're not going to have any money to pay our municipal employees or clean our parks or anything else."..........

Wall Street is the pillar of the New York state economy, making up 13 percent of tax contributions.

"The protests that are trying to destroy the jobs of working people in this city aren't productive," Bloomberg said. "At the same time I'm sympathetic to some of their complaints." "There are some people with legitimate complaints."

The protesters are angry about the 2008 Wall Street bailout that critics say let banks enjoy huge profits while average Americans suffered high unemployment and job insecurity......

Bloomberg's comments came a day after President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden acknowledged the frustration and anger of the protesters.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has also said he understood the anger being felt by the protesters but had to balance that with the economic importance of Wall Street to the state."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...rpc=22&sp=true

If they are so angry at the 2008 Wall Street Bailout, why don't they protest their PALS, the Democrat Congress that approved it for their pals like Clinton's former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, head of Citibank????

"Former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin has served on the Citi board for a decade. For much of that time he was chairman of the executive committee, collecting tens of millions to massage the Beltway crowd, though apparently not for asking tough questions about risk management.

The writers at the Deal Journal blog remind us of one particularly egregious massaging, when Mr. Rubin tried to use political muscle to prop up Enron, a valued Citi client. Mr. Rubin asked a Treasury official to lean on credit-rating agencies to maintain a more positive rating than Enron deserved. What signal will President-elect Barack Obama send if his Administration, populated with Mr. Rubin's protégés, allows this uberfixer to continue flying hither and yon on the corporate jet while taxpayers foot the bill?"

Cit's Taxpayer Parachute - WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122757194671054783.html

Guest 10-08-2011 12:40 PM

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Man, you said it brother. My wife and I started from scratch (second marriage for both of us) while we were in our early 30's. Small apartment. I worked nights to put here through college. She worked nights and weekends as a waitress. It took 5 years of 60 hour work-weeks before we could save enough for starter home.
No sympathy for free loaders. Plenty of entry level jobs. Look at the Apple founder. No college and started business in family garage. He created thousands of jobs and made live better for millions. This is a great country.
We need to restore the spirit of free enterprise and get those bums out of Washington.

:posting:Ibid.
Somehow, Aesop's the "Ant and the grasshopper" comes to mind. Nobody gave it to me, I did it the hard way, I EARNED IT!!!!!!

Guest 10-08-2011 01:48 PM

First wife might have been a democrat.

Guest 10-08-2011 02:10 PM

Let's see liberals and the liberal media wait with baited breath to jump onto anything they remotely can steer toward acts of racism or homophobic allegations but praise Wall Street protesters who demonize bankers and brokers. This is a dangerous game. being played by Obama who is maintaining an arms length distance or lease the appearance thereof.

Watch the liberals try to equate these protesters with the Tea Party movement.

The biggest difference is that the Tea Party is about restoring America to its greatness while these protesters are playing class warfare.

Guest 10-08-2011 02:37 PM

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So your saying we should be a socialist society? If that was truly the case then we would not have The Villages. A socialist society would deem us too rich to live in such a place. They would raze this place and build huts for all the people to live.

Why do you persist in this socialist BS? And I have to laugh because The Villages is, in some parts, a socialist society.

Have you stopped screaming yet?

We all pay the monthly fees which allow us to access the rec centers, executive golf courses and swimming pools. We all pay the same based on the size of the house but not based on the amount of time spent in The Villages. So as snowbird I help to pay for these services even though for 5 months I have absolutely no access. This keeps the fees low for the entire group.....

You, would have to assume, take Social Security and Medicare as well as the new Medicare Drug plan. All of these are socialist programs. Now you are going to come back at me a say "I paid all of my life into these plans" Nope you didn't....not the drug plan. So if you are using the Medicare drug plan then you are accessing a socialist plan.

Would you rather pay full price for your drugs?

Guest 10-08-2011 03:35 PM

Here's a big difference, @cologal. I'm not using Social Security or a government drug plan. I currently own three houses in TV. Just sold another one two weeks ago. Last month, I paid amenities fees, garbage and water/sewer and electric for four houses in TV. I did it by choice because I saw a capitalist opportunity. Not because I was forced. And I hope we make money on the next house we sell in TV. I've employed many contractors and gave my money to the lowest bidder with the best references. I've weeded out some I won't use anymore. I don't think that is a Socialist economy. Is it?

Guest 10-08-2011 03:44 PM

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Here's a big difference, @cologal. I'm not using Social Security or a government drug plan. I currently own three houses in TV. Just sold another one two weeks ago. Last month, I paid amenities fees, garbage and water/sewer and electric for four houses in TV. I did it by choice because I saw a capitalist opportunity. Not because I was forced. And I hope we make money on the next house we sell in TV. I've employed many contractors and gave my money to the lowest bidder with the best references. I've weeded out some I won't use anymore. I don't think that is a Socialist economy. Is it?

Sounds more like greed the way you explain it. i.e. If you have lots of money to start with, you can take advantage of some poor souls that are desperate to sell and and other poor souls that are desperate for work at any wage.

Guest 10-08-2011 03:45 PM

It sure wasn't a socialist who built this beautiful place. For the record, I take no drugs except an inexpensive statin for cholesterol control.
This country has been heading toward socialism for years, especially Johnson's failed war on poverty. When you take taxpayer's money and give it away to layabouts and unionized thieves, you get countries going bankrupt, which is all over the globe.

Guest 10-08-2011 06:29 PM

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Here's a big difference, @cologal. I'm not using Social Security or a government drug plan. I currently own three houses in TV. Just sold another one two weeks ago. Last month, I paid amenities fees, garbage and water/sewer and electric for four houses in TV. I did it by choice because I saw a capitalist opportunity. Not because I was forced. And I hope we make money on the next house we sell in TV. I've employed many contractors and gave my money to the lowest bidder with the best references. I've weeded out some I won't use anymore. I don't think that is a Socialist economy. Is it?

I would agree....but that doesn't diminish the socialist aspects of The Villages.

Good for you....I am just trying to pay off my mortgages so I can retire and use all the Socialist programs available to me.....

Guest 10-08-2011 06:31 PM

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It sure wasn't a socialist who built this beautiful place. For the record, I take no drugs except an inexpensive statin for cholesterol control.
This country has been heading toward socialism for years, especially Johnson's failed war on poverty. When you take taxpayer's money and give it away to layabouts and unionized thieves, you get countries going bankrupt, which is all over the globe.

The point is did you get them through the Medicare Drug plan?

Proably so.

Guest 10-08-2011 06:45 PM

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The point is did you get them through the Medicare Drug plan?

Proably so.

No, I get them at WalMart, a good capitalist retail.

Guest 10-08-2011 06:56 PM

any conservatives out there find themselves agreeing with the occupy Wall St.protests? Bail outs angered me. They have it right. ....if a company is too big to fail,it is too big to exist. Our gov't has failed us....where is Teddy Roosevelt,he had it right. This is not about hand-outs or lazy bums as some of you insist,it's about people who have worked their entire lives and are being screwed by corporate greed. America is turning into a plutocracy and some of you don't get it.

Guest 10-08-2011 06:57 PM

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Sounds more like greed the way you explain it. i.e. If you have lots of money to start with, you can take advantage of some poor souls that are desperate to sell and and other poor souls that are desperate for work at any wage.

I really don't understand your point.

How on earth is it greed to buy houses from people who are desperate to sell?
I'm sure they are relieved that they are able to move on with their lives!

And if someone is desperate for work so they can feed their family, how is it greed to give them employment?

Guest 10-08-2011 07:10 PM

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Sounds more like greed the way you explain it. i.e. If you have lots of money to start with, you can take advantage of some poor souls that are desperate to sell and and other poor souls that are desperate for work at any wage.


Yeah, I took advantage of a family who had lost their parents and two separate women who had lost their husbands. One of the women had beginning stage Alzheimers, The Villager II.

I paid them money for a manufactured home they don't want, need or can't afford (physically, financially, emotionally, et al) anymore but I find beautiful, usable and lovable. There are some beautiful views from there my friend. And, just so we are straight. I don't think we were greedy. Just surviving an early retirement and stretching our dollars, My Friend.

I pray you are doing well with retirement?

Guest 10-08-2011 07:13 PM

Oh, and the people we took advantage of by paying them to paint, do lawnwork and clean; they pay their taxes. Plenty of them. They employ about 15 people fulltime during the peak months. How many do you employ?

Guest 10-08-2011 07:25 PM

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The point is did you get them through the Medicare Drug plan?

Proably so.

What difference does it make? Medicare only pays the Pharmacy fractions of pennys on the dollar!

Guest 10-08-2011 08:34 PM

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How's that Hopey-Changey Stuff Workin' Out for Ya?



http://www.bizjournals.com/mobile/me...-drops-to.html

About as well as that Bushie thing did.

Guest 10-08-2011 08:37 PM

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About as well as that Bushie thing did.

That Bushie thing. You didn't just say that did you? Teehee. Bushie thing. Cologal...tsk, tsk. LOL jk

Guest 10-08-2011 08:41 PM

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About as well as that Bushie thing did.

Hey, it's Saturday night. Date night.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 10-08-2011 08:44 PM

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No, I get them at WalMart, a good capitalist retail.

Yep....discriminates against women and runs local small businesses out of the area.

You should shop there.... I shop at the Marion Market. I support local business.

Guest 10-08-2011 08:56 PM

Classic
 
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Pelosi and Ried and for that matter NO Bama. Think about it. The Wall Street CEOs that they want to (now) hang are and have been responsible for their own pension plans. Wow, Nancy Pelosi what a JOKE


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