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Younger Villagers
I am probably going to stir up a hornet's nest here but I am wondering how my fellow Villagers feel about the rash of crimes being committed by younger Villages residents. It seems that the police blotter now reports crimes on a regular basis where the perpetrators are residents, in their 20s. Somehow I don't see The Villages as a place where I should have to worry about unsavory young people being "among us" and possibly living next door. Before I get too many negative comments I will state that I see listed a number of older Villagers involved in criminal acts, also. No place is perfect. I get that. BUT, does anyone else feel that allowing anyone over "19" to live here is in our best interests? I understand that there may be some kids in their 20s who enjoy living with a bunch of seniors. Most kids I know would want no part of that on a regular basis. This is an "over 55" community and I know that younger folks can buy and live here. I have no problem with anyone over 45 buying a home and living here. The Morses made the rules that allow these kids to live here but I sure would like to see it changed to exclude them, except in the case of a disabled child who needs parental care. I liked living in my little "oasis", insulated from the fear and crime that is rampant in so many areas around us. Reading the police blotter these days has shaken my feelings of peace and security. Somehow, it all didn't matter quite so much when the criminals lived in Wildwood or Leesburg.
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Just stop Reading the police blotter. |
I agree - disabled adult children are one thing. But the majority of the adult children living here in their 20's-30's are problem children that the parents had to bring with them. We don't need them here. If they are going to have these "problem children" living with them, they should have to move to the "family" neighborhoods nearby.
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oomy could you pass the kool-aide
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And what would you suggest? Should parents turn their back on their kids? No family is immune from some rough patches.
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Your concerns are valid, in my opinion, Villages Florida. Why would any kids WANT to live with older people???
And...ooomy? Boy Howdy. |
Personally I like seeing some young people around, in addition to all the old farts. And they're not all a bunch of criminals.
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not reading the police blotter doesn't deal with this issue-what kind of a response is that?I could tell you but I'll stop here
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The first item I notice when I read about the arrests are the bonds set by the judges are practically nothing. You only have to come up with 10% to bail out and you know the parents are the ones putting up the money. Set their bail at $50,000 and then we'll see if they want to spend $5,000. If these people were to spend 60 or 90 days in jail then maybe they'll figure out when they get released it's time to get out of here.
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I agree with everything you're saying Bogie Shooter.I'd rather know about the problem though by reading about it than not being informed.I used to eat breakfast with a guy every week that was arrested for theft.And he was 67! So crime knows no age limit.
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My son graduated from Duke Law school and he lived with us all summer until he passed the bar and started his job in Palo Alto, CA. We love him dearly, but we were very happy to drop him off at the airport!:D |
While I am a full time TV resident in my late 40s, I too am concerned about thse crime reports. We hope that we have found our final home, and we hope to feel safe in our new community.
That being said, I also question how "complete" these police blotter reports are, and whether the local paper provides ALL of the reported crime in TV. My wife is a nurse in the ER in the Villages Hospital and she has seen a number of assaults, DUIs etc, which were never reported in the police blotters. She is shocked by the number of drunks who get admitted to the ER, most of whom have been brought in by the police for being publicly intoxicated and causing a public nuisence--and by the way, these aren't younger folks, these are older TV residents. |
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this police blotter here vs the one from Philly? No comparison!
Just sayin.................. |
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Now we have stepped over the family rough patches, to residents having to be concerned. They shouldn't be in a retired neighborhood. I think the parents, or grandparents, should take their darling rough patches, and find another non senior retirement home to live in. It would be one thing if it was read about once in awhile, but these issues in the police blotter for 19-30 yr old "residents" are becoming way too frequent. |
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This problem is rampant everywhere. I know a woman of 80 in California who has had two drug and alcohol abusing sons sponging off her literally their whole lives. The sons who live with her off and on, mostly on these days, are now 55 and 58, old enough to reside in TV themselves. Police get called regularly by the neighbors because the sons are either loudly and roughly fighting or behaving obnoxiously in other ways. One has set fire to her home while under the influence. The "boys" get arrested now and then. She acts like everything is just fine and still works to support them. She has had to sell her home and other assets since her husband died to continue to support them and now must rent. Talk about denial!
I am here for the month of October and have been reading the police blotter daily. It looks like even in TV yoyo adult children of all ages and some seniors themselves, are around to cause disturbances and even commit some serious felonies. At one time I lived in a small mountain town having a reputation for being a safe haven and a great place to raise children, which it was by most standards. Still, a lot of bad stuff happened there that never made the local paper. I knew the DA quite well so I heard far more than most folks. The staff in the ER, the police, the sheriff and prosecutors are the people who are aware of what really goes on anywhere. |
Let face it there is no visible presence of authority. Yes the local PD does at times set up speed traps ( which is fine with me ). There is never a patrol car just patrolling, part of prevention is a visible presence of authority. The Village Patrol is a JOKE they are not police office qualified or even peace office qualified. I wonder if the size of local PD has increased a fast as as the population of TV, I doubt it. Take our heads out of the sand and realize we live a real town with with real problems about security, safety etc.
We need more enforcement to be present at events and in the square, parking lots. Maybe some security cameras outside in the parking lot of the country clubs, and a few more place where people leave the golf carts and clubs - just the fact the cameras are present is a deterrent. I really thought we would never need these measures of protection, but we have grown so fast and so big, maybe we dont attract the same prospective buyers as we used to. Most of the older people found out by word of mount, and attracted the same caliber of people we were used to getting. All of the advisements on television, fairly low price (compared to the north), may have attracted a different buyer. No enforcement of the rules (unless reported). Remember if you live in a barn you will smell like a horse. That being said. I know many will disagree. Back to the bubble. Waiting for the new Villages in Texas to open |
Have any of you been to Spanish Springs after the evening concerts? There are large groups of local area teenagers - some with tattoos - hanging around and walking around the square. They are congregating around and on the property of the Church on the Square. They seem to be oblivious to the patrol car that goes by just now and then. What should be done?
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As long as they behave themselves, I don't see a problem... |
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Seriously, I loathe tattoos but that doesn't mean the persons wearing them are criminals. |
Most tatts are harmless self expressions, some, not so much. http://www.gangsorus.com/gang_tattoos.html
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Tattoos. One of the prejudgements that I am working on. My dearest friend has a little tiny one, but generally speaking I don't like 'em.
I told my grandkids that tuition payments were based on lack of them and piercings too. And of course decent grades. Old fashioned Gracie. But back to the kids. I am showing my age here. |
Keep in mind when you are having this sort of conversation that "village resients" unintentionally extends to guests, renters and their guests and local residents outside TV that come to the town squares. I say this so that before you accuse anyone first define their status as being one of the aforementioned..................I'm just saying.
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I've also noticed a lot of trouble in the area by other groups of people.. those $%&* smokers. Have you noticed how many residents (probably some non residents too) that hang around TV smoking? What is wrong with people that they would smoke cigarettes? Just plain stupid and nothing more than a crutch for weak people. What about all those golf cart driving, beer drinking thugs? Geez, that needs some attention too. I even heard that some of those crazies, drive their golf carts while they're intoxicated. Can you believe that? And don't even get me started on the motorcycle gangs in TV. I heard that some of them have those damned awful tattoos also.. the nerve! I think what makes me the most upset however, is the massive number of busy-bodies who have nothing better to do than watch and judge others based on their age, choice of self expression, the clothes they wear etc. They too inhabit the town squares and can be a major problem. I think TV may in-fact be somewhat like the rest of the country, so it's probably not a very nice place to live. What a disappointment. Oh well... for now, I'll just keep my tattoo covered (perhaps have it removed) and stay the hell out of the town squares, especially after dark. It's so disheartening to move to a retirement community, only to find out that everyone is not just like me. I was fooled. |
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Tattoos. Funny. My wife and I never seen so many women in Florida with tattoos.From the Mid-West,we have never seen this. Not just young women but,Grannies for God sakes.Many from the villages.
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Chief-X;
A very well put posting. The squares are very scarey. You forgot about the "gangs" who assemble in Spanish Springs on the 3rd Saturday of the month in old cars, many with loud pipes, and some drivers even have tattoos! :BigApplause: |
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Excellent points, well taken. At the same time, I agree with VillagesFlorida's initial comment. I think LindaK nailed OP's point when she said that many of the adult children living here in their 20's-30's are "problem children that the parents had to bring with them," and that family-friendly neighborhoods would be better equipped to assimilate them. TV was planned and designed as a 55+ community and does not have the appropriate infrastructure and support systems to adequately accommodate 20-somethings, let alone problem ones who need more, not fewer, social support systems. |
I hope that all of the posters here remember that all I talked about in my original post was the young people who live here, who are committing criminal acts.....and, that I, personally, wish that the age limit here was 45. That would not prevent unsavory characters over 45 from living here. I get that. I really am just wondering if I am the only resident who feels that 20 is too young to live here, unless disabled and needing care by the parents or grandparents. I don't care who has a tattoo, who rides a motorcycle, or who drinks alcohol on the squares. My concern is the immature young people living here who have no regard for what this place was designed to be.....a beautiful, peaceful community, truly "Florida's Friendliest Hometown".
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Your satire is clever, and appreciated but it really doesn't matter so much to me how people show their style, as long as they are kind to each other. But one of these days.... I am gonna go up behind one of those kids who have their pants hanging low and showing their underwear...somewhere about half mast...and I am gonna pull the damn things down. You may read about me in the Daily Sun. Then I will probably get a tattoo that says...."Just Done It". |
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I'm feeling the love here again??? :icon_wink:
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Villages Resident Caught In "Crackdown" :police::police::police: |
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