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Guest 10-18-2011 06:50 PM

Planned Parenthood=Black Genocide
 
Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger whose objective was to eradicate the black and igorant populations via abortion and sterilization...ie.ethnic cleansing and black genocide. Some might be shocked to read her theories...
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

You can download her short book "The Pivot of Civilization" for free at this website.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1689

Guest 10-18-2011 09:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407907)
Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger whose objective was to eradicate the black and igorant populations via abortion and sterilization...ie.ethnic cleansing and black genocide. Some might be shocked to read her theories...
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

You can download her short book "The Pivot of Civilization" for free at this website.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1689


"Here’s what Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in Sunday’s New York Times Magazine: “Frankly I had thought that at the time [Roe v. Wade] was decided,” Ginsburg told her interviewer, Emily Bazelon, “there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

The comment, which bizarrely elicited no follow-up from Bazelon or any further coverage from the New York Times — or any other major news outlet — was in the context of Medicaid funding for abortion. Ginsburg was surprised when the Supreme Court in 1980 barred taxpayer support for abortions for poor women. After all, if poverty partly described the population you had “too many of,” you would want to subsidize it in order to expedite the reduction of unwanted populations."


http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...jonah-goldberg

Guest 10-19-2011 06:03 AM

Read this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44928812.../#.TpyQWbKVq0o

...and tell me we (as humanity) don't need family planning - and that in some areas it's more than critical. (My preferred method would be education so people don't get unwanted pregnancies in the first place)

And beware about thinking that a founder of an organization represents the current views of that organization.

Washington and Jefferson were slave-owning plantation masters.

Heck, even more recently, Ronald Reagan was a deal-making liberal by today's GOP standards.

Guest 10-19-2011 01:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408007)
Read this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44928812.../#.TpyQWbKVq0o

...and tell me we (as humanity) don't need family planning - and that in some areas it's more than critical. (My preferred method would be education so people don't get unwanted pregnancies in the first place)

And beware about thinking that a founder of an organization represents the current views of that organization.

Washington and Jefferson were slave-owning plantation masters.

Heck, even more recently, Ronald Reagan was a deal-making liberal by today's GOP standards.

Family planning is one thing. Abortion is quite another.

As for the article titled "Can we handle it?"........."WE" don't handle (control) the planet.

Our Creator, God, handles the planet and its inhabitants. The planet was created with its own regenerating properties built into it.

Of course we should care for the planet and curb things that destroy it such as pollution, etc. However, human life is not a pollution nor disease/malignancy to the planet.

Guest 10-19-2011 01:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408150)
Family planning is one thing. Abortion is quite another.

As for the article titled "Can we handle it?"........."WE" don't handle (control) the planet.

Our Creator, God, handles the planet and its inhabitants. The planet was created with its own regenerating properties built into it.

Of course we should care for the planet and curb things that destroy it such as pollution, etc. However, human life is not a pollution nor disease/malignancy to the planet.

How about letting every woman make her own choices and let her and her God deal with it? You say God handles the planet and its inhabitants....so let him handle it.

Guest 10-19-2011 01:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408007)
Read this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44928812.../#.TpyQWbKVq0o

...and tell me we (as humanity) don't need family planning - and that in some areas it's more than critical. (My preferred method would be education so people don't get unwanted pregnancies in the first place)

And beware about thinking that a founder of an organization represents the current views of that organization.

Washington and Jefferson were slave-owning plantation masters.

Heck, even more recently, Ronald Reagan was a deal-making liberal by today's GOP standards.

Well said. I don't get why limiting the number of children you have to the number you can afford to feed and educate is seen as wrong. Family planning is a necessity...we are almost at 7 billion inhabitants....

Guest 10-19-2011 02:01 PM

In theory, if trends continue in Ireland and Italy both nationalities could disappear in 200 years because their birth rate is in negative figures and any population growth stems from immigration. it is why both of these countries and in fact many European countries have become campaigns to limit immigration.

It so happens that both the white and black population here are being diminished while the asian increase and hispanics far outpacing all others.

Making adjustments to a country's immigration policies is one thing but intentionally controlling population growth is quite another.

I personally don't believe that a government gets the right to say who can and cannot be born. China did that with their female population and now they are feeling the adverse effects.

If Planned Parenthood's original goal was as reported then it may give liberals a reason to pause and rethink Roe v Wade

As the commerical says "its not nice to fool mother nature". If a woman does not want a baby then don't get pregnant. If you do get pregnant then carry it to full term and then decide if you want to retain your motherhood or allow carrying people who want a child to adopt.

Guest 10-19-2011 02:19 PM

Rubicon says, "I personally don't believe that a government gets the right to say who can and cannot be born. China did that with their female population and now they are feeling the adverse effects.

If Planned Parenthood's original goal was as reported then it may give liberals a reason to pause and rethink Roe v Wade

As the commerical says "its not nice to fool mother nature". If a woman does not want a baby then don't get pregnant. If you do get pregnant then carry it to full term and then decide if you want to retain your motherhood or allow carrying people who want a child to adopt."

1, The Chinese government did not say they would not allow female babies to be born nor did they make it legal to kill female babies. It is against the law in China to kill a baby. Based on the size of their country, the Chinese government decided to allow one child per couple.

2. Planned Parenthood's original goal was to do away with blacks? That is just a lie. The "Big Lie" is a form of propaganda and the goal is to say it long enough and loud enough and people will start to believe it. Anyone who repeats this particular Big Lie should be ashamed of themself - as we are of them.

3. Allow each mother the choice if she wants to keep her unborn child or not. It is not up to legislation or to public officials but up to each individual woman to decide for herself. Get this out of the political arena. Too many other things to be done politically instead of this.

Guest 10-19-2011 02:48 PM

I do think some of you give God a little too much credit.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408007)
Read this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44928812.../#.TpyQWbKVq0o

...and tell me we (as humanity) don't need family planning - and that in some areas it's more than critical. (My preferred method would be education so people don't get unwanted pregnancies in the first place)

And beware about thinking that a founder of an organization represents the current views of that organization.

Washington and Jefferson were slave-owning plantation masters.

Heck, even more recently, Ronald Reagan was a deal-making liberal by today's GOP standards.

Well said!:clap2:

Guest 10-19-2011 03:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408153)
Well said. I don't get why limiting the number of children you have to the number you can afford to feed and educate is seen as wrong. Family planning is a necessity...we are almost at 7 billion inhabitants....

Promoting that families limit the number of children is one thing; deceptively or forcefully imposing it on them due to the color or IQ of that family is quite another. The latter is what PP was founded to do, and still does as shown by ilovetv's post. Have any of you even read the links? I doubt it as the language in these writings is utterly offensive to blacks and those with lower intelligence (moron and imbecile are the terms used)

Guest 10-19-2011 03:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408166)
In theory, if trends continue in Ireland and Italy both nationalities could disappear in 200 years because their birth rate is in negative figures and any population growth stems from immigration. it is why both of these countries and in fact many European countries have become campaigns to limit immigration.

It so happens that both the white and black population here are being diminished while the asian increase and hispanics far outpacing all others.

Making adjustments to a country's immigration policies is one thing but intentionally controlling population growth is quite another.

I personally don't believe that a government gets the right to say who can and cannot be born. China did that with their female population and now they are feeling the adverse effects.

If Planned Parenthood's original goal was as reported then it may give liberals a reason to pause and rethink Roe v Wade

As the commerical says "its not nice to fool mother nature". If a woman does not want a baby then don't get pregnant. If you do get pregnant then carry it to full term and then decide if you want to retain your motherhood or allow carrying people who want a child to adopt.

with all due respect -- I am open to hearing someone's views but those views become discredited when they are backed up by hearsay or misinformation -- China did not limit the female population, they limited the number of children one could have (by the way, that is no longer in effect) -- what happened is that because families could only have one child (what do you think happened to the other pregnancies --male and femake -- no one was adopting!) parents terminated female-child pregnancies because they would not be family assets in the same way as male children. So, no matter what government says, some people are going to terminate pregnancies. I remember when young women were doing it with hangers --often terminating their own lives as well. Every religion allows for free will -- if someone makes a poor choice, he or she can answer to God -- he did not appoint any of us to interfere with individual choices -- "judgment is mine, saith the Lord"

Guest 10-19-2011 03:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408193)
with all due respect -- I am open to hearing someone's views but those views become discredited when they are backed up by hearsay or misinformation -- China did not limit the female population, they limited the number of children one could have (by the way, that is no longer in effect) -- what happened is that because families could only have one child (what do you think happened to the other pregnancies --male and femake -- no one was adopting!) parents terminated female-child pregnancies because they would not be family assets in the same way as male children. So, no matter what government says, some people are going to terminate pregnancies. I remember when young women were doing it with hangers --often terminating their own lives as well. Every religion allows for free will -- if someone makes a poor choice, he or she can answer to God -- he did not appoint any of us to interfere with individual choices -- "judgment is mine, saith the Lord"

China mandated a one child family policy. The Cadres (govenor/mayor) in each province have historically been measured by his boss for promotion or pay increase, on how closely his province adhered to this policy. It is therefore more often than not, that these Cadres take matters into their own hands to insure that the policy is taken seriously one way or the other. While the Chinese goverrnment does not condone this, it has certainly turned a blind eye

As far as people terminating the lives of their own unborn children, that is still murder and we live in a moral society who should hold these people accountable. Roe v Wade needs to be overturned as it is an errant law.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408166)
In theory, if trends continue in Ireland and Italy both nationalities could disappear in 200 years because their birth rate is in negative figures and any population growth stems from immigration. it is why both of these countries and in fact many European countries have become campaigns to limit immigration.

It so happens that both the white and black population here are being diminished while the asian increase and hispanics far outpacing all others.

Making adjustments to a country's immigration policies is one thing but intentionally controlling population growth is quite another.

I personally don't believe that a government gets the right to say who can and cannot be born. China did that with their female population and now they are feeling the adverse effects.

If Planned Parenthood's original goal was as reported then it may give liberals a reason to pause and rethink Roe v Wade

As the commerical says "its not nice to fool mother nature". If a woman does not want a baby then don't get pregnant. If you do get pregnant then carry it to full term and then decide if you want to retain your motherhood or allow carrying people who want a child to adopt.

Yes, Caucasian population is down everywhere. Muslim population is exploding all around the earth. Check out England when you have the chance. WE have killed around 40 million babies in USA and now they say we need immigration to make up the difference. What a world.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408190)
Promoting that families limit the number of children is one thing; deceptively or forcefully imposing it on them due to the color or IQ of that family is quite another. The latter is what PP was founded to do, and still does as shown by ilovetv's post. Have any of you even read the links? I doubt it as the language in these writings is utterly offensive to blacks and those with lower intelligence (moron and imbecile are the terms used)

Where are you getting this information?! If you are following links, you are connecting to biased views. If you connect to the Planned Parenthood website, you will see nothing even remotely similar to the language you are expressing. I know several people who have used their services -- one is black -- and they would strongly disagree with you. What did you use Planned Parenthood for -- what was your direct experience? If you have a personal point of view on abortion, I am more that willing to listen, but unless you have had direct experience, please don't perpetuate hate-mongering -- it is a dangerous thing to do.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408199)
Where are you getting this information?! If you are following links, you are connecting to biased views. If you connect to the Planned Parenthood website, you will see nothing even remotely similar to the language you are expressing. I know several people who have used their services -- one is black -- and they would strongly disagree with you. What did you use Planned Parenthood for -- what was your direct experience? If you have a personal point of view on abortion, I am more that willing to listen, but unless you have had direct experience, please don't perpetuate hate-mongering -- it is a dangerous thing to do.

No, what is dangerous is calling someone a hate-mongerer.:ohdear:

Guest 10-19-2011 03:27 PM

Here's what Jane Roe has to say today...Norma L. McCorvey is a healthy Christian woman. In the present day, she is an activist who speaks out against legalized, willful abortion. She was once Jane Roe of Roe versus Wade, the court case that gave abortionists legitimacy to perform the monstrous act of abortion.

“After over 28 years of guilt-induced drug binges and various jobs in abortion clinics in an attempt to justify her involvement in the legalization of abortion, Norma McCorvey did the unthinkable. As the former “poster-girl” for abortion who, in the words of a friend, “jumped off of the poster and into the arms of Christ,” Norma truly began to live her life over, and today seeks to tell the world the truth about abortion. (Roe v. Life, 2)

The belief that is propounded by various pro-abortion groups or individuals says, “Abortion is a safe medical procedure. It is a woman's right. It will not harm you physically or emotionally,” is a lie.

Reportedly, as many as Ninety-one percent of women who have an abortion suffer from a condition known as post abortion trauma. (Diane S. Drew) This is a condition, which always leads to self-doubt, severe depression, and can sometimes even lead to suicide.
http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article96.htm

Guest 10-19-2011 03:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408197)
China mandated a one child family policy. The Cadres (govenor/mayor) in each province have historically been measured by his boss for promotion or pay increase, on how closely his province adhered to this policy. It is therefore more often than not, that these Cadres take matters into their own hands to insure that the policy is taken seriously one way or the other. While the Chinese goverrnment does not condone this, it has certainly turned a blind eye

As far as people terminating the lives of their own unborn children, that is still murder and we live in a moral society who should hold these people accountable. Roe v Wade needs to be overturned as it is an errant law.

well, you really didn't say anything much different about the Chinese situation that I did -- there's no disagreement there. As to your other point, I appreciate your point of view even though I disagree with it.

by the same token then, I assume you disagree with those who murder abortionists. Murder is murder, right?

Guest 10-19-2011 03:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408199)
Where are you getting this information?! If you are following links, you are connecting to biased views. If you connect to the Planned Parenthood website, you will see nothing even remotely similar to the language you are expressing. I know several people who have used their services -- one is black -- and they would strongly disagree with you. What did you use Planned Parenthood for -- what was your direct experience? If you have a personal point of view on abortion, I am more that willing to listen, but unless you have had direct experience, please don't perpetuate hate-mongering -- it is a dangerous thing to do.

One of my dearest friend in the whole world, Brenda who has spent many years smuggling bibles into China. I have heard this information first hand from this honest woman who has given me the honest truth. I can only tell the truth, it is up to you to consider me a liar or not. I cannot force anyone to hear the truth. Additionally, the kind Chinese people pray for Americans! The reason is that we have too many things that blind our eyes to truth, and they pray that we will not turn out like China. China was once a great Democracy that was destroyed from within similar to how we are destroying our great Democracy.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408201)
Here's what Jane Roe has to say today...Norma L. McCorvey is a healthy Christian woman. In the present day, she is an activist who speaks out against legalized, willful abortion. She was once Jane Roe of Roe versus Wade, the court case that gave abortionists legitimacy to perform the monstrous act of abortion.

“After over 28 years of guilt-induced drug binges and various jobs in abortion clinics in an attempt to justify her involvement in the legalization of abortion, Norma McCorvey did the unthinkable. As the former “poster-girl” for abortion who, in the words of a friend, “jumped off of the poster and into the arms of Christ,” Norma truly began to live her life over, and today seeks to tell the world the truth about abortion. (Roe v. Life, 2)

The belief that is propounded by various pro-abortion groups or individuals says, “Abortion is a safe medical procedure. It is a woman's right. It will not harm you physically or emotionally,” is a lie.

Reportedly, as many as Ninety-one percent of women who have an abortion suffer from a condition known as post abortion trauma. (Diane S. Drew) This is a condition, which always leads to self-doubt, severe depression, and can sometimes even lead to suicide.
http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article96.htm

I am a psychotherapist and what you say about the psychological aftermath of abortion is quite true -- no one terminates a pregnancy easily; HOWEVER, that same aftermath occurs after rape or any other traumatic event. With proper counseling, these women go on to live psychologically healthy lives. If they do not recover it is most likely that there are other issues in their lives that they have not resolved.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408202)
well, you really didn't say anything much different about the Chinese situation that I did -- there's no disagreement there. As to your other point, I appreciate your point of view even though I disagree with it.

by the same token then, I assume you disagree with those who murder abortionists. Murder is murder, right?


I totally disagree with those who kill abortionists. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408204)
One of my dearest friend in the whole world, Brenda who has spent many years smuggling bibles into China. I have heard this information first hand from this honest woman who has given me the honest truth. I can only tell the truth, it is up to you to consider me a liar or not. I cannot force anyone to hear the truth. Additionally, the kind Chinese people pray for Americans! The reason is that we have too many things that blind our eyes to truth, and they pray that we will not turn out like China. China was once a great Democracy that was destroyed from within similar to how we are destroying our great Democracy.

Well, your dear friend, Brenda, has a religiously biased view, yes. I am not disputing it, just calling it out.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408198)
Yes, Caucasian population is down everywhere. Muslim population is exploding all around the earth. Check out England when you have the chance. WE have killed around 40 million babies in USA and now they say we need immigration to make up the difference. What a world.


Why is it that 90+ % of Planned Parenthood facilities are located in poverty and low income and black communities?

Guest 10-19-2011 03:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408205)
I am a psychotherapist and what you say about the psychological aftermath of abortion is quite true -- no one terminates a pregnancy easily; HOWEVER, that same aftermath occurs after rape or any other traumatic event. With proper counseling, these women go on to live psychologically healthy lives. If they do not recover it is most likely that there are other issues in their lives that they have not resolved.

I can understand the trauma from rape, but why from abortion if it isn't a traumatic event? And if it is such a traumatic event, then why is that fact not presented as a possible side effect of abortion? And these post abortion effects are not small things either! I have posted data from gvernmetn studies on a previous thread this summer listing the horrendous side effects. I will try to repost.

Guest 10-19-2011 03:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408207)
Well, your dear friend, Brenda, has a religiously biased view, yes. I am not disputing it, just calling it out.

So becausshe is a Christian, her facts cannot be considered truth?

Guest 10-19-2011 04:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408208)
Why is it that 90+ % of Planned Parenthood facilities are located in poverty and low income and black communities?

because that is the population most in need of their services and the rent is low? All social service agencies have a presence in low income communities.

Guest 10-19-2011 04:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408209)
I can understand the trauma from rape, but why from abortion if it isn't a traumatic event? And if it is such a traumatic event, then why is that fact not presented as a possible side effect of abortion? And these post abortion effects are not small things either! I have posted data from gvernmetn studies on a previous thread this summer listing the horrendous side effects. I will try to repost.

Abortion is presented as a traumatic event. I do agree that more appropriate counseling needs to be provided to patients -- but unbiased, psychological advice, not religion based.

Guest 10-19-2011 05:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408247)
Abortion is presented as a traumatic event. I do agree that more appropriate counseling needs to be provided to patients -- but unbiased, psychological advice, not religion based.

You see, Katz -- there are two things we agree on-- lol

Guest 10-19-2011 05:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408246)
because that is the population most in need of their services and the rent is low? All social service agencies have a presence in low income communities.

Seems a coincidence that the same neighborhoods being served the most by PP today are the same neighborhoods where Margaret Sanger aimed to practice her black genocide and eradication of lower intelligence populations...

Guest 10-19-2011 05:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408213)
So becausshe is a Christian, her facts cannot be considered truth?

If she is expressing a religious point of view that is opinion, not fact -- she certainly has the right to express her opinion, but let's not interpret that as fact.

Guest 10-19-2011 05:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408249)
Seems a coincidence that the same neighborhoods being served the most by PP today are the same neighborhoods where Margaret Sanger aimed to practice her black genocide and eradication of lower intelligence populations...

and where is your proof of that -- many of those neighborhoods have disappeared or have been gentrified.

There is more ground for us to agree if we stick to what we know from personal experience and not to make assumptions or repeat hearsay or information from unsubstantiated website links

Guest 10-19-2011 05:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408247)
Abortion is presented as a traumatic event. I do agree that more appropriate counseling needs to be provided to patients -- but unbiased, psychological advice, not religion based.

I am pretty sure that my opinions on abortion have mainly been presented based on scientific facts everywhere on this forum.
I also am concerned about your apparent belief that Christians lie to promote their agenda...

Guest 10-19-2011 05:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408253)
I am pretty sure that my opinions on abortion have mainly been presented based on scientific facts everywhere on this forum.
I also am concerned about your apparent belief that Christians lie to promote their agenda...

now, Katz, I never said that -- you are losing credibility with me now -- we each have our opinions on things no matter what our political or religious beliefs are -- just because they are opinions and not facts does not mean that anyone is lying.

When you begin to twist what someone is saying, that is not a healthy discussion -- I have tried very hard to listen to you -- have even agreed with you on a couple of points -- and yet you remain oppositional and judgmental about my views.

I think the discussion needs to end here because it has ceased to be a discussion and is turning into an attack on my beliefs.

Guest 10-19-2011 05:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408252)
and where is your proof of that -- many of those neighborhoods have disappeared or have been gentrified.

There is more ground for us to agree if we stick to what we know from personal experience and not to make assumptions or repeat hearsay or information from unsubstantiated website links

Let's start with hearsay...When I reported the experience a long loved and trusted friend, you responded that her story is biased since she is a Christian. I am happy to have an open and honest dialogue with you, but the ground rules are that we must both be serious about this and we must both be honest and we must both agree to read the posts and think about what is being said by the other. I am an open and honest person and trust that you are the same. That is why I am on this forum. Not to shove my opinions on anyone, but to learn and share what I know with others. I do not want to be lumped together with anyone nor will I do that to you. What do you say?

Guest 10-19-2011 05:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408254)
now, Katz, I never said that -- you are losing credibility with me now -- we each have our opinions on things no matter what our political or religious beliefs are -- just because they are opinions and not facts does not mean that anyone is lying.

When you begin to twist what someone is saying, that is not a healthy discussion -- I have tried very hard to listen to you -- have even agreed with you on a couple of points -- and yet you remain oppositional and judgmental about my views.

I think the discussion needs to end here because it has ceased to be a discussion and is turning into an attack on my beliefs.

I have not twisted anything. You said that my friend had a religiously biased view, when I only stated the true facts as she has told me. Why would you assume that her view is religiously biased?

Guest 10-19-2011 09:28 PM

Hearsay at the most. Hearsay is never admitted into a courtroom.

You have never been to China and you do not know first hand what is going on there. Just report on what you have personally observed.

You have lost great credibility here. Please go to your facts checker and get them all in a line before posting anymore things that are just hearsay.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

Guest 10-19-2011 09:37 PM

~With some on this forum, I have never had credibility by virtue of being a Christian, a pro-lifer, and a conservative. Therefore, I cannot lose any credibility that I never had.
~With others, I'm pretty sure that my credibility is rock solid, as theirs is with me.
~It is the opinion of the latter that has captured my respect, while the opinions of the former mean nothing to me anymore.

and I quote..."I think the discussion needs to end here because it has ceased to be a discussion and is turning into an attack on my beliefs."

Guest 10-19-2011 09:41 PM

Just say, "Good night, Gracie."

Hope you have a good day tomorrow.

Guest 10-19-2011 09:55 PM

In the battle of wits, some people show up unarmed. Katz, your a wonderful poster and don't let the leftie trolls bother you.

Guest 10-19-2011 10:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 408373)
[B]Hearsay at the most[/

Just report on what you have personally observed. Thank you very much for your cooperation.

Following your criteria, there sure wouldn't be much posting done here on Political!

Katz' credibility is rock solid with me.


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