New Faces for GOP Presidential Hope
 

It appears that Cain, Perry, Romney, et al are not serious contenders, so would it not be a real challenge to the Democrats if either Jeb Bush or Charlie Crist could be persuaded to throw their hat in the ring?

I feel Romney is a contender and a good one. Chris has declared he will not run and Jeb Bush would not have a chance at all. The more I listen to the Right on this forum the more I consider not voting next year. If the right Wing on this forum are any indicator of the common Republican, we are in serious trouble. If Romney does not get the nomination, I will just stay home.

I always vote for the most conservative candidate, and in the primaries that ain't Romney by any stretch of the imagination. The powers that be are trying to shove Romney down the Republican throat because Romney is no threat to the status quo.

I like Jeb Bush, but a "Bush" cannot be elected this cycle. Charlie Crist is a RINO and that's enough said about him at this time. If Paul Ryan would step in, you'd have someone we can talk about.

To turn this country around we need a candidate who is willing to think beyond group consciousness of the incumbent complacent leadership. Still waiting for that person to break through. It can still happen.

in the last election, because people DID stay home, Obama won the election.
He carried FL because people would not get out and vote.

If the people get out and vote....he will not win in 2012.

btk

Yes, yes, please stay home, that will ensure that "O" gets elected again. Just what we need, 4 more of the same old stuff.

With the every day stupidity being shown by both Herman Cain and Rick Perry and the Right opposed to Mitt Romney the 2012 White House will remain with Obama unless Jeb Bush finally decides to run. He should not be judged by things his brother did. "I believe that eventually Jeb Bush will come forward".

Another BUSH? : > 0 REALLY? I mean REALLY?

How about we just make me Queen?

LOL - yeah, Jeb should run. After all, the "Bush" name is magic in american politics.

Romney has the nomination locked up - 100% guaranteed. He has been campaigning for this since 2006, at least. He has collected enough IOU's to put him over on the first ballot.

Meanwhile, it's nice to see that the pizza guy is worried that China is trying to develop a nuclear capability.

Yep, gotta get up pretty early in the morning to get one by old Herb.

Palin must be his foreign policy advisor.

The only conclusion of your's that I agree with is about Jeb Bush. If Jesus Christ appeared himself, to ask that his followers get behind Jeb Bush, I believe that Bush Derangement Syndrome would override even that appeal.

Romney has nothing locked up, and the nomination is still up for grabs. There's a long time left in this campaign.

Well, with Obama in the White House, President Bush is looking better and better.

There's Gotta Be Somebody
 

Boy, I agree.

There's gotta be somebody that's a more serious candidate than the current GOP front-runners. Yesterday's Cain interview on PBS just adds fuel to the fire. Can we really have a commander-in-chief who doesn't know that China has nuclear weapons and has had them for over half a century? If Sarah Palin had said that, she'd have already been skewered and on the way to being well done on the political rotisserie. How does Cain get a pass on this stuff...becky-becky-stan-stan, the sexual abuse allegation, now almost complete ignorance of a fairly important fact regarding the country that's the biggest threat to our continued well- being?

Interestingly, I read an article within the last few days that an Irish bookmaker has taken millions of dollars in bets on the outcome of both the GOP primary and the 2012 Presidential election. The odds set by this bookmaker have had impeccable results over a decade or so of making odds on elections around the world. They've been right on the last four U.S. presidential elections, all fifty U.S. gubernatorial elections, all but a handful of the U.S. House and Senate elections for the last three Congressional cycles, etc.

This bookmaker is now predicting with very high odds that unquestionably Mitt Romney will be the GOP candidate and that at this point he and Obama are neck-and-neck in the general election, with Romney having significant increasing momentum and Obama the opposite. Let's hope the Irish bookies know more about what's going to happen than the respondents to the recent GOP nominee polls.

Bechya Osama Bin Laden would wish Junior was still in the WH.

Eight years and he couldn't find this guy?

UNBELIEVABLE !!!!

I love some of the new words and acronyms turning up here recently.
Bush Derrangement Syndrome....how beautifully accurate and very appropriate sounding...BDS.

When you look up words in the dictionary it will sometimes list other meanings under a, b, c, etc.
I would suggest that one of the letters under BDS be....totally and unequivocally incapable of not making retrospective commentary.

Another could be...totally and unequivocally incapable of commenting on an issue without presenting it in the form of a Bushslap.

btk

Today, intrade says Obama has a 49.8% chance of being reelected.

Romney has a 69.5% chance of being the R nominee.

The chance of Cain being the nominee? 6.9%

I think it will be Romney, possibly Cain, and Newt Gingrich is still there with more brains and knowledge than all the rest combined.

All the denigration of Cain and Romney above is laughable, knowing how Dems literally PANTED and slobbered over Mr. Perfect Hair, John Edwards, a skilled trial lawyer who didn't have enough brains to avoid using campaign funds to pay his kept woman with ZERO credentials or experience in "videography"....Bimbo and the Love Child....nor did he have the sense to avoid the tabloid reporters/photographers when meeting up with her in Las Vegas hotel bright lights.

HE is a Bimbo, among all the other HornDogs Dems have panted over.

And it's a joke to condemn Cain for having little foreign policy knowledge, when Obama was criticized for the same thing during the campaign......and so instead of allowing Hillary to continue on her strong campaign run that kept getting stronger all the way to the end, the wonderful party ditched HER, while having foreign policy knowledge and winning key primary states like California, Florida, New York, and Ohio!

Then after dumping her, they got her to come in and kiss the ring to compensate for Obama's total lack of foreign policy knowledge. Condemning Cain for that factor is laughable.

Cain pulls ahead of Obama
 

Rasmussen Reports

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...election-poll/

43%---41%

If he can't win the R nomination, it's irrelevant how he polls against Obama.

It is indeed sad that the campaign process has detoriated to such an extent that the news media reports campaign as if we were following Dancing with the Stars or America Idol, both of which I refuse to watch. The only thing that truly matters is who has the best and broadest grasp of what it will take to be successful as president. The answer to that question is hands down Newt Gingrich. However the media, pundits etc will tell voters he is not electable. thre pundits and media will push or punish candidates based on their biases. They will defame them, make fun of them make them the objects of scorn.

There wouldn't be enough bedrooms in the White House for all of Newt's mistresses

Newt doesn't exactly exemplify that "family values" stuff the cons keep talking about. You know, the sanctity of marriage and all that.

If there was room for Clinton's, Newt should have room to spare.

Obama started his career in the home of his good friend, mentor and supporter, the unapologetic home grown terrorist Bill Ayers, and the lamestream media in all these years has asked him about it ONCE.

It must be great to be Democrat and have the major lamestream media give you a pass on everything.

But even better to come by your notoriety honesty and be able to really sleep at night!

Obama 48.2, Cain 39.8
Obama 49.8, Perry 39.2
Obama 50.3, Gingrich 36.7
Obama 45.9, Romney 43.7
Obama 47.6, Paul 41.6
Obama 51.8, Bachmann 37.6
Obama 45.7, Huntsman 37.0


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...andidates.html


10/6 thru 10/31

How About These Potential Results?
 

Here are the "betting lines" as of today on several 2012 election races published by InTrade, Inc. and international online bookeeper. These lines are the result of millions of dollars actually bet on these questions by real bettors worldwide with InTrade. InTrade's accuracy over several recent election cycles is amazing. Their bettors have accurately picked the last four Presidential primaries and general elections, the House and Senate races for the last four cycles, all fifty U.S. gubernatorial races, etc.

Arguably, the InTrade odds, which are based on real money being bet by real bettors, is more accurate than any of the polling done so frequently these days.

Here are the current betting odds on elections that we may be interested in. Remember, these are the probabilities of occurrence based on millions of dollars bet worldwide on these questions. There is no political slant to these probabilities. They are the product of real bettors trying to make money by wagering on our democratic electoral process.

• Obama wins the 2012 Presidency (50%)
• Romney wins the 2012 Presidency (33.7%)
• Perry wins the 2012 Presidency (4.7%)
• Cain wins the 2012 Presidency (2.5%)
• Democrats control the Senate after the 2012 elections (25%)
• Republicans control the Senate after the 2012 elections (72.6%)
• Democrats control the House after the 2012 elections (26.1%)
• Republicans control the House after the 2012 elections (71.7%)

So it looks like the bettors, betting real money on the electoral outcomes, believe quite strongly that the 2012 elections will swing the entire Congress to Republican control. The bettors currently believe that Barack Obama will be re-elected, but if his opponent is Mitt Romney, it will be a close race. If his opponent is any of the other GOP primary candidates, Obama will be virtually assured of re-election.

Remember...FOLLOW THE MONEY!

VK; you're putting all your eggs in the next election on a "worldwide" greed poll? Seriously?

Maybe it has some validity of thought, but it sounds creepy to me.

Creepy Maybe, But Accurate
 

Richie, I only posted this because of the proven accuracy of the InTrade betting lines over a number of recent elections. Their accuracy is amazing. Creepy maybe, but accurately predictive.

Remember...FOLLOW THE MONEY!

Well, that's a phrase I've always subscribed to, myself. Even Rush Limbaugh always says to follow the money if you want to know what's the truth of the matter, although I don't know if a betting line is what he's talking about.

I have to say that I know nothing about InTrade's past record of accuracy in predicting election outcomes and so I will have to do some research of my own, as you always suggest.

It just kind of rubs me the wrong way.