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Guest 11-05-2011 10:05 AM

Occupy Wall Street Protester
 


Gimme a break my wife just called to tell me as she drov done buena vista she ran into Occupy Wall Street protesters on Parr Drive. She said they were older and assumed to be residents of The Villages. Perhaps they are left over hippies from the 1960's ....make love not war OWS Start by going to the town square and dancing and leave your signs at home least you accidentally smack your partner and knock him/her to the ground

Geeeeezzz ..... betcha these are the same folks captivated by the Kardashian divorce drama...Get a life

Guest 11-05-2011 10:06 AM

PS Sorry I have to edit my fingers much better saw some keystroke errors

Guest 11-05-2011 10:55 AM

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Gimme a break my wife just called to tell me as she drov done buena vista she ran into Occupy Wall Street protesters on Parr Drive. She said they were older and assumed to be residents of The Villages.

You posted at 11:05 and that's about the time I saw them in full force (about 10 or 15 of them) as I drove west down Parr Drive. I wondered what it was about. Actually, I saw them when they were first forming at 10:00 AM., as I was on my way to government day at Laural Manor. (Gotta love that! :oops:)

Anyway, I did manage to slow down to read one sign that said, "Hands Off
Social Security!" Perhaps I should go back and see some of the other signs. However, assuming they are all on the same page, I wonder what they hope to accomplish.

By coincidence, I came to this board to start a new thread to ask about this subject. (rubicon, you beat me to the punch!)

What's the deal? What do they hope to accomplish by holding up signs to passing cars? Is Social Security in danger of being cut?

If anything, the retirement age might go up, but that would not affect them. The other thing is they might require rich people to pay in more money. Are the protesters against that? Ha! I better go back and get more information. Stay tuned. As the terminator said: "I'll be back!"

:wave:

Guest 11-05-2011 11:07 AM

I hope they are protesting the golf fees on the championship courses at least that would be productive

Guest 11-05-2011 11:42 AM

They're gone!
 
I walked back there (good exercise) but they were gone. While I was there, I noticed that Bank Of America was open for business and there was a law enforcement officer walking around outside. I asked him if he knew what happend to the protesters and he said they left at 11:30 am.. Darn! I guess they wimped out. Or maybe it was lunch time.

I wonder how they got organized in the first place. I would guess they belong to the Democrat's Club or something like that.

:wave:

Guest 11-05-2011 12:01 PM

Leftover Dopers from the Sixties.

Guest 11-05-2011 01:36 PM

Probably just another club, and another excuse to go out to lunch with a large group. That's an all important activity here in TV. I wonder if they have a meetings listing in the Recreation News insert?

I saw these yahoos at the Mitt Romney event at Colony Cottage with their signs saying reading "Hands Off My Social Security" when nobody anywhere is threatening these ancient mariners with anything of the kind.

I wonder who's filling their little heads with all this misinformation. It couldn't be the liberal media and Democrat activists now; could it? Would they be so deceitful?

Did these same people tell them that Obama cut $500 Billion from their Medicare? What do you think?

Guest 11-05-2011 03:41 PM

I wonder if the police asked them to leave?

Guest 11-05-2011 04:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 414678)
Probably just another club, and another excuse to go out to lunch with a large group. That's an all important activity here in TV. I wonder if they have a meetings listing in the Recreation News insert?

I saw these yahoos at the Mitt Romney event at Colony Cottage with their signs saying reading "Hands Off My Social Security" when nobody anywhere is threatening these ancient mariners with anything of the kind.

I wonder who's filling their little heads with all this misinformation. It couldn't be the liberal media and Democrat activists now; could it? Would they be so deceitful?

Did these same people tell them that Obama cut $500 Billion from their Medicare? What do you think?

Polls say that Romney can beat Obama.

'nough said. Unless of course you want 4 more years of hope & change.

Guest 11-05-2011 05:27 PM

Rich,if it was the Tea Party would you feel the same way?

Guest 11-05-2011 05:44 PM

We were not talking about the Tea Party or romney. We were talking about participants in the OWS protest at Parr Drive t hat is the subject matter. Does anyone know how when or wy they left? Does anyone k now why they were protesting and/or if they plan future protests?

Guest 11-05-2011 07:13 PM

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Rich,if it was the Tea Party would you feel the same way?

I don't quite understand your meaning. How does what you say apply to what I meant?

Guest 11-05-2011 07:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 414758)
We were not talking about the Tea Party or romney. We were talking about participants in the OWS protest at Parr Drive t hat is the subject matter. Does anyone know how when or wy they left? Does anyone k now why they were protesting and/or if they plan future protests?

This protest is really catching on in far away places.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/a...00758218_n.jpg

Guest 11-06-2011 09:04 AM

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Rich,if it was the Tea Party would you feel the same way?

Tea Party people do not trash places and go the bathroom anywhere they want like dogs. Tea Party people have coherent thoughts and ideals. There is no comparison. TP people are my neighbors and friends not a bunch of hippie wanna bees who are doing drugs and having sex like animals.

Guest 11-06-2011 10:02 AM

In addition to the aforementioned. The Tea Party had to pay a user fee, to organize, fees for security and supply port-a-potties. They also picked up their trash and left the meeting area spotless.

Guest 11-06-2011 10:35 AM

Enjoy the Humor
 
It is better to see the humor in all of this. I lived a few miles from Woodstock and drove by a few times during the "protests". In the main they were drugged up youths who waddled through the mud and the only impact was their effect on the poor farmers property. If you go to Woodstock today you will see small booths selling what are obvious drug pipes, etc. and a few nutty old painted up hippies playing a guitar in the square.. On Sunday they catch the noon bus back to New York City for the week. A friend manages the Woodstock Golf Course and he designed and sells a golf hat with "Golf in Peace" as the logo. There are a bunch who buy it as a statement they were there. These are wealthy people demonstrating their own humor at the drama going on. It is truly humorus that the senior members are demonstrating against society as they live in paradise. Come on now..This is all funny drama! :jester:

Guest 11-06-2011 12:15 PM

Loveitthere I must disagree with you.

Guest 11-06-2011 02:20 PM

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Tea Party people do not trash places and go the bathroom anywhere they want like dogs. Tea Party people have coherent thoughts and ideals. There is no comparison. TP people are my neighbors and friends not a bunch of hippie wanna bees who are doing drugs and having sex like animals.

Your description of the Tea Party matches what I saw when I visited Occupy Boston.

Guest 11-06-2011 03:15 PM

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You posted at 11:05 and that's about the time I saw them in full force (about 10 or 15 of them) as I drove west down Parr Drive. I wondered what it was about. Actually, I saw them when they were first forming at 10:00 AM., as I was on my way to government day at Laural Manor. (Gotta love that! :oops:)

Anyway, I did manage to slow down to read one sign that said, "Hands Off
Social Security!" Perhaps I should go back and see some of the other signs. However, assuming they are all on the same page, I wonder what they hope to accomplish.

By coincidence, I came to this board to start a new thread to ask about this subject. (rubicon, you beat me to the punch!)

What's the deal? What do they hope to accomplish by holding up signs to passing cars? Is Social Security in danger of being cut?

If anything, the retirement age might go up, but that would not affect them. The other thing is they might require rich people to pay in more money. Are the protesters against that? Ha! I better go back and get more information. Stay tuned. As the terminator said: "I'll be back!"

:wave:

Maybe they're here because many have the notion that if you are a Villager, you are rich. Ha! The ones that think that don't live at my house!

When we first came, we attended a seminar (you know, the ones you always have a flyer for in your mailbox) and one of the businesses involved was Milhorn Law Firm. He told us not to put the license tag, The Villages, on the front of your car. He said that 441/27 is referred to as "have a wreck road" by many of the lawyers because when the scammers see that tag, they associate it with an opportunity for big bucks and easy prey. He was the one that told us too many non-Villagers think everyone in TV has lots of money.

Guest 11-06-2011 03:31 PM

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Maybe they're here because many have the notion that if you are a Villager, you are rich. Ha! The ones that think that don't live at my house!

When we first came, we attended a seminar (you know, the ones you always have a flyer for in your mailbox) and one of the businesses involved was Milhorn Law Firm. He told us not to put the license tag, The Villages, on the front of your car. He said that 441/27 is referred to as "have a wreck road" by many of the lawyers because when the scammers see that tag, they associate it with an opportunity for big bucks and easy prey. He was the one that told us too many non-Villagers think everyone in TV has lots of money.

That may be true but what you are describe are insurance scams and for obvious reasons. The interesting thing about these folks is that they know the insurance companies know they are scamming but they love to play the game. Normally there are a few doctors and lawyers working in concert to make such a scam effective. I think the reason they do it is because they agree and adhere to Obama's philosophy of a redistribution of wealth:crap2:

Guest 11-06-2011 03:33 PM

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Your description of the Tea Party matches what I saw when I visited Occupy Boston.

Well. in Kalifornia they are destroying property and there have been hundreds of police arrests. Are you actually defending these animals?

Guest 11-06-2011 09:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 414961)
Your description of the Tea Party matches what I saw when I visited Occupy Boston.


I don't think there was any reports of crack dealing at Tea Party gatherings.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/11/0...deteriorating/

Guest 11-08-2011 10:09 PM

As reported by CBS Los Angeles-"SoCal Street Cart Vendors Hurting After ‘Occupy’ Group Splatters Blood, Urine"...
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/...s-blood-urine/

Guest 11-08-2011 10:16 PM

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As reported by CBS Los Angeles-"SoCal Street Cart Vendors Hurting After ‘Occupy’ Group Splatters Blood, Urine"...
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/...s-blood-urine/

These vendors had started off by offering free snacks and drinks to the protesters. When they stopped doing that they were violently attacked and had their pushcarts (their businesses) practically destroyed. It doesn't pay to be nice, I guess.

How anybody can see parallels between these miscreants and the supporters of the Tea Party is so absurd.

Guest 11-09-2011 07:06 AM

I can see one parallel - hijacking.

There's some big conservative money now behind the Tea Party (to say nothing of Fox News) on a national scale and it certainly did NOT start out that way.

In that article, I found an interesting comment:
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Over a million protesters were participating in the occupy protest. No violence was to be seen. No press were to be seen. Everyone wanted to ignore the protest all together. They said it was too small and had no real gumption. Escalation of the protest is the only way to be heard. The people that hear are looters and predators. They hijack the protest. Big business jumps in… after all they are looters and predators.

Moral of the story: Pay attention to the peaceful protesters. Help them fix the problem they are upset about. Unfortunately when you ignore them, the protest will become hijacked and out of hand. Hard to control. Because the original cause of the protest will not even be considered. This protest will happen again once the current hijacked protest subsides.
Most everything back east has still been peaceful. Makes me wonder why the problems seem to be eruting in California - but, then, we all know that things are (how can I put this politely) "different" in CA.

Drunks, addicts and homeless tried to crash the group in Boston and they were forcibly removed with the help of the Boston Police Department.

Perhaps Boston's history helps keep things orderly.

Out west it seems to be a different story.

I would imagine that the OWS and Tea Party are still in lock-step agreement about bank bailouts - so there's another parallel.

Guest 11-09-2011 08:33 AM

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These vendors had started off by offering free snacks and drinks to the protesters. When they stopped doing that they were violently attacked and had their pushcarts (their businesses) practically destroyed. It doesn't pay to be nice, I guess.

How anybody can see parallels between these miscreants and the supporters of the Tea Party is so absurd.

There is no comparison despite attempts to lump them together. The Tea Party is comprised of comcerned working citizens who are peaceful and respectful of property. The occupiers are bums, and societies rejects who have nothing better to do then do drugs and destroy property. Who would ever hire one of those hippie Wanabees?

Guest 11-09-2011 10:21 AM

Great column by Mary Beth Hicks on TownHall.com. These kids need to grow up.

http://townhall.com/columnists/maryb...ers/page/full/

Guest 11-09-2011 12:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415875)
There is no comparison despite attempts to lump them together. The Tea Party is comprised of comcerned working citizens who are peaceful and respectful of property. The occupiers are bums, and societies rejects who have nothing better to do then do drugs and destroy property. Who would ever hire one of those hippie Wanabees?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - have you (or anyone) gone down there and actually SEEN any of these demonstrations?

I found a few loonies when I went there - sure enough and I won't deny it. But I also found college students, school teachers, veterans, police officers, firefighters, unemployed financial services personell (people who, like me, used to work at Fidelity and Putnam).

Again, be careful when you paint with a broad brush. After all, some people went to Tea Party rallies and found stuff like this:

http://www.blueridgemuse.com/node/3539

or...

http://likeawhisper.wordpress.com/an...protest-signs/

or..

http://www.philly2philly.com/politic...vement_racism_

or...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...t-is-al-qaeda/

Guest 11-09-2011 01:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415969)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - have you (or anyone) gone down there and actually SEEN any of these demonstrations?

I found a few loonies when I went there - sure enough and I won't deny it. But I also found college students, school teachers, veterans, police officers, firefighters, unemployed financial services personell (people who, like me, used to work at Fidelity and Putnam).

Again, be careful when you paint with a broad brush. After all, some people went to Tea Party rallies and found stuff like this:

http://www.blueridgemuse.com/node/3539

or...

http://likeawhisper.wordpress.com/an...protest-signs/

or..

http://www.philly2philly.com/politic...vement_racism_

or...

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...t-is-al-qaeda/


Didn't dig deep enough DJ. The Hitler signs like other accusations were adequately debunked. Lyndon LaRouche supporters admit the Hitler signs are theirs and that they have no Tea Party Connection.
http://mrctv.org/blog/larouche-suppo...amahitler-sign

Maybe you might was to read noted speaker, author and columnist Walter E. Williams' take on racism before you search for old accusations against the Tea Party to try to use to prop up the naive children being used by leftist socialists to give cover for their anti-capitalist agenda.

http://townhall.com/columnists/walte...ist/page/full/

Guest 11-09-2011 01:15 PM

the only thing that is shown in the media are the loonies, fire bombing, and all the other mob scene stuff.

Are some of you saying that what they show in the national news is not representative of reality? I just don't understand how that could possibly be. Isn't the media the all knowing? All seeing? Unbiased reporting (barf).

Yes the above is sarcasm:D

btk

Guest 11-09-2011 02:56 PM

Bill, that's exactly my point. You hear about 3 OWS locations having problems (Oakland, Seattle, LA). Yet the peaceful demonstrations going on in literally HUNDREDS of cities worldwide goes unreported.

Just like the people who screamed how racist the Tea Party was. I'm sure some members ARE, but the core message is actually quite similar to OWS (at least at the beginning and the Tea Party HAS stayed more 'in focus' by a LONG shot)

Guest 11-09-2011 02:59 PM

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Bill, that's exactly my point. You hear about 3 OWS locations having problems (Oakland, Seattle, LA). Yet the peaceful demonstrations going on in literally HUNDREDS of cities worldwide goes unreported.

Just like the people who screamed how racist the Tea Party was. I'm sure some members ARE, but the core message is actually quite similar to OWS (at least at the beginning and the Tea Party HAS stayed more 'in focus' by a LONG shot)

djp you may be right except they ought to be venting their frustration at Washington

Guest 11-09-2011 08:24 PM

Tea party people=mostly employed normal Americans.

Occupiers= mostly unemployable bums and dropouts who will never be good citizens.

Guest 11-10-2011 06:27 AM

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djp you may be right except they ought to be venting their frustration at Washington

Some of that outrage IS geared towards Washington (for the bank bailouts). But mostly it's geared at:

- The bank that foreclosed on their (or their parent's) mortgage while giving CEOs multimillion dollar bonuses.

- The multinational corporation that reports record profits while simultaneously refusing to create new jobs AND asks for more tax cuts.

- The health insurance companies that drop you as soon as you're no longer a profit center.

Guest 11-10-2011 06:31 AM

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Tea party people=mostly employed normal Americans.

Occupiers= mostly unemployable bums and dropouts who will never be good citizens.

So all those teachers, firefighters, veterans, police officers and other 'regular folk' I saw in Boston in ADDITION to students is something I made up?

I've seen this kind of ploy before. You demonize the opposition - make them look or sound "sub human" and you can rationalize ANYTHING.

They'll "never be good citizens"? You know them all personally and you have psychic powers to read all of their future fates? Have you, oh, I don't know, TALKED to any of them?

Let me tell you something. I made no secret of the fact that I voted for Reagan "as many times as I was legally allowed" when talking to the folks down there. Sometimes I got a bit of a guarded reactions, sometimes surprise at the fact that I was talking *with* them and finding common ground.

Guest 11-10-2011 07:41 AM

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So all those teachers, firefighters, veterans, police officers and other 'regular folk' I saw in Boston in ADDITION to students is something I made up?

I've seen this kind of ploy before. You demonize the opposition - make them look or sound "sub human" and you can rationalize ANYTHING.

They'll "never be good citizens"? You know them all personally and you have psychic powers to read all of their future fates? Have you, oh, I don't know, TALKED to any of them?

Let me tell you something. I made no secret of the fact that I voted for Reagan "as many times as I was legally allowed" when talking to the folks down there. Sometimes I got a bit of a guarded reactions, sometimes surprise at the fact that I was talking *with* them and finding common ground.

Excreting on police cars and selling dope from tents?

Guest 11-10-2011 09:34 PM

You just go on believing that picture of the guy crappingo n the police car was an OWS protestor. He was a homeless (and most likely mentally ill) man.

The homeless caused the only problems the Boston protests have seen when they tried to crash the site for free food. Occupy Boston has a pretty damn strict no alcohol and no drugs policy - in line with the policies in other cities (of course, I can't vouch for how strict it is elsewhere but Boston seems to have been going along fine).

Guest 11-10-2011 09:54 PM

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You just go on believing that picture of the guy crappingo n the police car was an OWS protestor. He was a homeless (and most likely mentally ill) man.

The homeless caused the only problems the Boston protests have seen when they tried to crash the site for free food. Occupy Boston has a pretty damn strict no alcohol and no drugs policy - in line with the policies in other cities (of course, I can't vouch for how strict it is elsewhere but Boston seems to have been going along fine).

Defend them if you please, but do not compare them to the Tea Party. It is absurd.

Guest 11-11-2011 08:06 AM

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Defend them if you please, but do not compare them to the Tea Party. It is absurd.

VG: When you changed your screen name, why didn't you use your real name?

Guest 11-11-2011 09:54 AM

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Defend them if you please, but do not compare them to the Tea Party. It is absurd.

What is absurd is that you highlighted the part of my post where I said I was finding common ground and then put in YOUR two cents of suggesting that it was selling dope and excreting on police cars.

There are a lot of posters here that I disagree with but still respect.

Think about what you said. You basically accused me of being a dope-selling, mentally handicapped indigent.

Yeah. I take offense at that.


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