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Guest 11-09-2011 06:54 AM

A good day!
 
From Mississippi to Maine to Ohio it turned out to be a pretty good day for Dems. Here's hoping it is a portent for 2012! :wave:

Guest 11-09-2011 07:54 AM

My uncle Charles Colgan got re-elected to the VA state senate. He will be the longest serving state senator in VA history. He is a Democrat.....abit conservative.

Guest 11-09-2011 08:05 AM

A good day, indeed !!

Along with the Ohio workers victory, the ousting of Pearce in Arizona, Maine reinstatin*g same-day registrati*on, and the recall of Rep Paul Scott of Michigan.

Mississipi REJECTING the "personhood" initiative, an attempt by the crazies to declare that life begins at fertilization.

Suffolk County, NY electing a Democrat as County Executive.

Guest 11-09-2011 08:11 AM

God bless him, cologal. He's much appreciated in Northern Virginia and an absolute testament to the American dream. What a story this orphaned child has to tell. I know you are proud.

Guest 11-09-2011 08:25 AM

Yea, but is it a good day for America?

Guest 11-09-2011 09:12 AM

cannot make a simple statement without the partisan venom:

"...an attempt by the crazies..."

Fits the pattern. No matter the subject, if it is in opposition, the poisonous catharsis always follows.

btk

Guest 11-09-2011 09:20 AM

Another step into that dark abyss called socialism.I am just happy that I lived my life and seen America at it's greatest before the big tumble in the near future. Our poor grandchildren.

Guest 11-09-2011 09:42 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415847)
From Mississippi to Maine to Ohio it turned out to be a pretty good day for Dems. Here's hoping it is a portent for 2012! :wave:

A celebration of PARTY with no mention of COUNTRY !

SAD !!!

Guest 11-09-2011 10:33 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415900)
A celebration of PARTY with no mention of COUNTRY !

SAD !!!

This is the crux of it ALL.

Union thuggery and party grip on power trumps the solvency, stability and integrity of the USA we knew.

Our nation's founding fathers, immigrant farmers, ranchers and non-union factory workers, and all of our military veterans who fought and died are now "honored" by entitled thugs and parasites making our nation into a laughingstock in the world community.

Guest 11-09-2011 10:41 AM

And here we see the AFL-CIO thug with Columbia U. students shipped in to go house to house in Cleveland.......

http://www.wral.com/news/national_wo...mage/10351428/

Guest 11-09-2011 12:25 PM

Going door-to-door to campaign for issues you strongly believe in - well, some call that democracy.

Guest 11-09-2011 12:57 PM

For the most part all of the wins for the dems had to do with local politics.
It looks like we need to do something but take it from someone else not ME!.
It will all come home to roost when their states have to pay for all of this wonderful stuff they voted for.
It does not suprise me at all in this part of the nation. They bleed union.
Unions once had a place but now really are nothing but political arms for the dems, to hell with the country going broke as long as they get theirs. I guess their grandchildren can figure it out later when they are standing in front of the European Union explaining why the need more money to help the New european nation of Obamaland!

After reading my post I felt I needed to edit it.
I was wrong! These things will not affect our grandchildren, they will affect our CHILDREN. These problems are not 20-30 years out, they are here right now!

Guest 11-09-2011 04:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415900)
A celebration of PARTY with no mention of COUNTRY !

SAD !!!

I had vowed to not post here any more but the elections yesterday prompted me to come back once more. I was remiss in saying that the election results were good news for Dems, therefore implying bad news for Repubs, and not great news for the entire country which I firmly believe is the case. I'm sure you disagree. 'nuff said.

Guest 11-09-2011 04:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415865)
A good day, indeed !!

Along with the Ohio workers victory, the ousting of Pearce in Arizona, Maine reinstatin*g same-day registrati*on, and the recall of Rep Paul Scott of Michigan.

Mississipi REJECTING the "personhood" initiative, an attempt by the crazies to declare that life begins at fertilization.

Suffolk County, NY electing a Democrat as County Executive.

Amen

Guest 11-09-2011 07:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415923)
This is the crux of it ALL.

Union thuggery and party grip on power trumps the solvency, stability and integrity of the USA we knew.

Our nation's founding fathers, immigrant farmers, ranchers and non-union factory workers, and all of our military veterans who fought and died are now "honored" by entitled thugs and parasites making our nation into a laughingstock in the world community.

Amen. These selfish union thugs do not care about anything but themselves. Take, take and take some more and the heck with the private sector who built this country.

Guest 11-09-2011 09:57 PM

some might argue that the unions built this country.

Guest 11-09-2011 10:32 PM

I think it's basic human nature to strive to get a little more, climb the ladder, be a little safer from poverty and want. And it is soooo American.

I am stunned that a group of folks here continue to ridicule and revile people who work, or wish they could, including union members, and even, (perish the thought!), those grungy occupiers...

while at the very same time, go to any lengths to worship and protect every single dollar amassed by millions of people who never worked, and who consume and spend obscenely.

Guest 11-09-2011 10:45 PM

two points
 
first, about the crazies who say life begins at conception, do you know that a death certificate has to be filed (at least in montana) when an abortion is performed? and secondly, it is not the Unions that built this country, but rather the WORKERS, who are in danger of losing their right to a secret ballot and whose union dues go directly to the democratic party whether they want them to or not...and thirdly, will some of you please read my post on agenda 21 which has gotten lost in the shuffle of our lively debates! :)

Guest 11-09-2011 11:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415865)
A good day, indeed !!

Along with the Ohio workers victory, the ousting of Pearce in Arizona, Maine reinstatin*g same-day registrati*on, and the recall of Rep Paul Scott of Michigan.

Mississipi REJECTING the "personhood" initiative, an attempt by the crazies to declare that life begins at fertilization.

Suffolk County, NY electing a Democrat as County Executive.

coralway, when does life begin?

Guest 11-09-2011 11:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416202)
first, about the crazies who say life begins at conception, do you know that a death certificate has to be filed (at least in montana) when an abortion is performed? and secondly, it is not the Unions that built this country, but rather the WORKERS, who are in danger of losing their right to a secret ballot and whose union dues go directly to the democratic party whether they want them to or not...and thirdly, will some of you please read my post on agenda 21 which has gotten lost in the shuffle of our lively debates! :)

AMEN!!!!!!:beer3:

Guest 11-09-2011 11:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416202)
first, about the crazies who say life begins at conception, do you know that a death certificate has to be filed (at least in montana) when an abortion is performed? and secondly, it is not the Unions that built this country, but rather the WORKERS, who are in danger of losing their right to a secret ballot and whose union dues go directly to the democratic party whether they want them to or not...and thirdly, will some of you please read my post on agenda 21 which has gotten lost in the shuffle of our lively debates! :)

Dear lady,
Good luck to you proving when life begins, on this forum. Certain folk are convinced that they are the keepers of the facts and won't accept a thousand well supported facts that prove them wrong! I think the reason is possibly to be found in this quote:

"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." ~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

Guest 11-10-2011 12:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 415867)
God bless him, cologal. He's much appreciated in Northern Virginia and an absolute testament to the American dream. What a story this orphaned child has to tell. I know you are proud.

Thanks..... the whole family is proud of him.

Guest 11-10-2011 06:40 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416234)
Dear lady,
Good luck to you proving when life begins, on this forum. Certain folk are convinced that they are the keepers of the facts and won't accept a thousand well supported facts that prove them wrong! I think the reason is possibly to be found in this quote:

"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." ~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

I really wouldn't take much from Mother Theresa. I know I'll catch flak for this but that woman was sufferring from SOMETHING. All those hospitals she set up? Why are patients denied pain medication? Why are they denied visitation? Because Mother Theresa thought it put them closer to godliness to suffer 'like Christ did on the cross'.

And her charities? When her charity was forced by a new law in France to publicly disclose their books, they packed up and left.

Not too many people looked beyond the image that was being carefully cultivated - but sometimes, the truth leaks out:

http://www.newstatesman.com/200508220019

Guest 11-10-2011 04:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416234)
Dear lady,
Good luck to you proving when life begins, on this forum. Certain folk are convinced that they are the keepers of the facts and won't accept a thousand well supported facts that prove them wrong! I think the reason is possibly to be found in this quote:

"Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." ~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

And it is posts like this that perpetuation the delusion that women who make the choice to abort are somehow inferior to those who do not. Telling a women that she kills her conscience? Maybe she is concerned about providing for the children she already has and that is on her conscience....If abortions do become illegal, it will not stop them...it will stop them from being safe. And I am talking about the old back door abortions, not the ones performed in clinics by a medically trained person..

And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

Guest 11-10-2011 04:52 PM

The Republicans took over the Virginia Senate and the Mississippi House and won the ballot in Ohio with the overwhelming rejection of ObamaCare mandates by the voters.

Not a bad day on the important issues if you're Republican.

I feel sorry for people who think that the dehumanization of a baby in the womb is a political victory, but that's just me.

Guest 11-10-2011 05:56 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416481)
And it is posts like this that perpetuation the delusion that women who make the choice to abort are somehow inferior to those who do not. Telling a women that she kills her conscience? Maybe she is concerned about providing for the children she already has and that is on her conscience....If abortions do become illegal, it will not stop them...it will stop them from being safe. And I am talking about the old back door abortions, not the ones performed in clinics by a medically trained person..

And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

It is not just the woman involved, it is the father, the baby and God. You make it sound like the "woman" only has the right to determine life and death. What a selfish opinion!!!

Guest 11-10-2011 07:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416481)
And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

and once again...I have DO have the right-Freedom of Speech- to speak in defense of the INNOCENTS who are MURDERED daily in our country under the guise of women's rights.
I find it interesting that certain posters on this forum always show up when the subject of abortion comes up. Like I said, Mother Theresa's quote may just hold the answer...

Guest 11-10-2011 07:55 PM

Tell this delightful young lady that her mom had the right to choose to end her right to live a wonderful life...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ[/ame]

Guest 11-10-2011 09:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416181)
some might argue that the unions built this country.

The ones who say that, and I would be one of them, are never talking about the unions of public sector employees.

Guest 11-10-2011 09:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416197)
I think it's basic human nature to strive to get a little more, climb the ladder, be a little safer from poverty and want. And it is soooo American.

I am stunned that a group of folks here continue to ridicule and revile people who work, or wish they could, including union members, and even, (perish the thought!), those grungy occupiers...

while at the very same time, go to any lengths to worship and protect every single dollar amassed by millions of people who never worked, and who consume and spend obscenely.

Have no idea what you talking about.

Guest 11-10-2011 09:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416481)
And it is posts like this that perpetuation the delusion that women who make the choice to abort are somehow inferior to those who do not. Telling a women that she kills her conscience? Maybe she is concerned about providing for the children she already has and that is on her conscience....If abortions do become illegal, it will not stop them...it will stop them from being safe. And I am talking about the old back door abortions, not the ones performed in clinics by a medically trained person..

And once again...you have NO right to make this decision for any woman. It is not your decision to make. You don't like government meddling in people's lives except for this most personal and private of decisons.....

Ignoring the life within the mother again. You were once that life. I don't have to say anything else.

Guest 11-10-2011 11:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416494)
It is not just the woman involved, it is the father, the baby and God. You make it sound like the "woman" only has the right to determine life and death. What a selfish opinion!!!

Her body...her decision.

Guest 11-10-2011 11:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416272)
I really wouldn't take much from Mother Theresa. I know I'll catch flak for this but that woman was sufferring from SOMETHING. All those hospitals she set up? Why are patients denied pain medication? Why are they denied visitation? Because Mother Theresa thought it put them closer to godliness to suffer 'like Christ did on the cross'.

And her charities? When her charity was forced by a new law in France to publicly disclose their books, they packed up and left.

Not too many people looked beyond the image that was being carefully cultivated - but sometimes, the truth leaks out:

http://www.newstatesman.com/200508220019

I did not know any of that. Very interesting. Thank you for sharing this information.

Guest 11-10-2011 11:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416610)
Her body...her decision.

Again, a selfish attitude. It is the decision of the father, mother and God. The female carrier of the child is not the only soul involved.

Guest 11-11-2011 08:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416610)
Her body...her decision.

Surprised that such an accomplished doctor of research can continue to blatantly ignore the fact that the unborn child, complete with it's own distinctly different and seperate set of DNA, is not "her body"...
Lame arguements like this are designed to gain the emotional and sympathetic support of the masses who have not been taught the facts yet. Hmmm....another undesireable intent from reputable honest researcher.:oops:

Guest 11-11-2011 08:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416669)
Surprised that such an accomplished doctor of research can continue to blatantly ignore the fact that the unborn child, complete with it's own distinctly different and seperate set of DNA, is not "her body"...
Lame arguements like this are designed to gain the emotional and sympathetic support of the masses who have not been taught the facts yet. Hmmm....another undesireable intent from reputable honest researcher.:oops:

Of course you are correct. The unborn baby genetic code differs entirely from the mother's. It's not part of the woman's body. The baby merely resides in the mother's womb. It is not a physical part or organ belonging to the mother. So, I would say, the mother's "right" to "control her own body" ends at the edge of the womb.

I know I'm not speaking from what has become legal in this country, but just what is pure fact and what is moral.

Guest 11-11-2011 08:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416677)
Of course you are correct. The unborn baby genetic code differs entirely from the mother's. It's not part of the woman's body. The baby merely resides in the mother's womb. It is not a physical part or organ belonging to the mother. So, I would say, the mother's "right" to "control her own body" ends at the edge of the womb.

I know I'm not speaking from what has become legal in this country, but just what is pure fact and what is moral.

:eclipsee_gold_cup: :eclipsee_gold_cup: :eclipsee_gold_cup: :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Guest 11-11-2011 09:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416669)
Surprised that such an accomplished doctor of research can continue to blatantly ignore the fact that the unborn child, complete with it's own distinctly different and seperate set of DNA, is not "her body"...
Lame arguements like this are designed to gain the emotional and sympathetic support of the masses who have not been taught the facts yet. Hmmm....another undesireable intent from reputable honest researcher.:oops:

You cannot legislate morality. I guess I was too concrete in my original statement, so let me expand so you might understand. When I said her body, her decision, I assumed you understood that implied that she took into consideration the input of the father and her doctor. It is still her body and her decision. Your statement puts women on the level of being incubators.
We will never come to a common ground on this issue and I think this constant repartee is useless.....

Guest 11-11-2011 09:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416689)
You cannot legislate morality. I guess I was too concrete in my original statement, so let me expand so you might understand. When I said her body, her decision, I assumed you understood that implied that she took into consideration the input of the father and her doctor. It is still her body and her decision. Your statement puts women on the level of being incubators.
We will never come to a common ground on this issue and I think this constant repartee is useless.....

Of course it's useless to continue this "repartee", as you say, as long as you continue to ignore the biological facts of a pregnancy.

Guest 11-11-2011 09:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 416689)
You cannot legislate morality. I guess I was too concrete in my original statement, so let me expand so you might understand. When I said her body, her decision, I assumed you understood that implied that she took into consideration the input of the father and her doctor. It is still her body and her decision. Your statement puts women on the level of being incubators.
We will never come to a common ground on this issue and I think this constant repartee is useless.....

More lame statements meant to appeal to the emotional responses and place the mother to be in the "poor me, victim, help me out of this mess category"...
If the constant repartee is useless, why do you continue to initiate &/or engage?


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