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LittleDog 12-04-2011 11:34 AM

Another Villager Biker scofflaw
 
My wife and I were stopped at the red light on 466 between Citizens Bank and the Shell Station. In front of us was a woman on a bike. I really didn't get a close look at her but she was not a "spring chicken", probably in her 70's or so. In any case she was stopped in front of us. She then waited for cars to pass and started crossing 466 with the red light. She stopped in the middle until cars cleared and then proceeded the rest of the way across 466. Maybe she felt like she was just a pedestrian instead of someone riding a bike. :shrug:

John

Bill-n-Brillo 12-04-2011 11:37 AM

YIKES!!!

Bill :)

SgtJohn 12-04-2011 11:43 AM

Get use to it. She is not the first and will not be the last.

zcaveman 12-04-2011 01:55 PM

I was under the impression that even pedestrians had to obey traffic lights.

renrod 12-04-2011 02:01 PM

here comes the.....
 
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Originally Posted by jrheydt (Post 425277)
My wife and I were stopped at the red light on 466 between Citizens Bank and the Shell Station. In front of us was a woman on a bike. I really didn't get a close look at her but she was not a "spring chicken", probably in her 70's or so. In any case she was stopped in front of us. She then waited for cars to pass and started crossing 466 with the red light. She stopped in the middle until cars cleared and then proceeded the rest of the way across 466. Maybe she felt like she was just a pedestrian instead of someone riding a bike. :shrug:

John

"If you can cross a street on/with a bicycle, why not a golf cart?"

buggyone 12-04-2011 02:23 PM

It does not sound as if she took any unnecessary chances with cars if she waited until all oncoming cars on 466 were gone before she started across.

Yes, I know that a person on a bicycle is supposed to obey all the traffic rules as cars - but was it something you deemed worthy to post on TOTV? It must have really gotten to you even though it did not harm you in anyway.

Posh 08 12-04-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 425359)
It does not sound as if she took any unnecessary chances with cars if she waited until all oncoming cars on 466 were gone before she started across.

Yes, I know that a person on a bicycle is supposed to obey all the traffic rules as cars - but was it something you deemed worthy to post on TOTV? It must have really gotten to you even though it did not harm you in anyway.

Must have been worthy. You read it and responded.

gatherer47 12-04-2011 07:21 PM

So John reports a situation with a bike rider that's obviously a safety concern and another poster says what's the big deal? Like "no harm no foul". All too often here we get this kind of response where the original poster is criticized for even posting what he saw.We had this same kind of response when grandpa let his grandson wreck the golf cart and destroy a gate.Some posters said what's the big deal.Good grief some people sure are [you fill in the word]

buggyone 12-04-2011 07:42 PM

Gatherer47, well, let's see what kind of response this brings -

"Good grief, some people sure are wondering why a person who crosses the road against the light is Villages-worthy news."

I could definitely see posting about what my wife saw yesterday - a car on the Multi-Modal trail. The poor guy knew he had done something wrong but had to continue until he got to the next neighborhood entrance. She said carts were shouting at the driver and he was just trying to get off the trail as soon as possible.

Or someone posting about seeing Gramps driving his golf cart with 2 grandkids standing in the back strapped in like golf bags.

To me, those are more post-worthy than a person crossing the road against the light. Hey, maybe it is just me. No harm, no foul for posting what you want.

LittleDog 12-04-2011 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatherer47 (Post 425480)
So John reports a situation with a bike rider that's obviously a safety concern and another poster says what's the big deal? Like "no harm no foul". All too often here we get this kind of response where the original poster is criticized for even posting what he saw.We had this same kind of response when grandpa let his grandson wreck the golf cart and destroy a gate.Some posters said what's the big deal.Good grief some people sure are [you fill in the word]

Gatherer - You hit the nail on the head. This board is basically for all of us to post what we want without being criticized. It's just a message board. If people are not interested in a subject don't read it. If others want to post things that they are interested in far be it from me to criticize them for posting it. Apparently they took the time and effort to post it.

John

duffysmom 12-04-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrheydt (Post 425493)
Gatherer - You hit the nail on the head. This board is basically for all of us to post what we want without being criticized. It's just a message board. If people are not interested in a subject don't read it. If others want to post things that they are interested in far be it from me to criticize them for posting it. Apparently they took the time and effort to post it.

John

:agree:

Posh 08 12-04-2011 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 425491)
Gatherer47, well, let's see what kind of response this brings -

"Good grief, some people sure are wondering why a person who crosses the road against the light is Villages-worthy news."

I could definitely see posting about what my wife saw yesterday - a car on the Multi-Modal trail. The poor guy knew he had done something wrong but had to continue until he got to the next neighborhood entrance. She said carts were shouting at the driver and he was just trying to get off the trail as soon as possible.

Or someone posting about seeing Gramps driving his golf cart with 2 grandkids standing in the back strapped in like golf bags.

To me, those are more post-worthy than a person crossing the road against the light. Hey, maybe it is just me. No harm, no foul for posting what you want.

Come on, the man posted something that ya'll should look for (does safety come to mind). You critique it and beat him like a drum. If we all sat mum, would there be a forum?

buggyone 12-04-2011 08:31 PM

If my posting was out of line and seemed petty, I do apologize. From the title of the original posting "Another Villager Biker Scofflaw", I was anticipating a Harley-Davidson speeding at 65 mph on a Multi-Modal Trail. Instead, I got a 70 year old lady crossing the street against the light.

Anyhow, no harm was done and I hope I did not ruffle too many feathers. It was not my intent.

duffysmom 12-04-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 425503)
If my posting was out of line and seemed petty, I do apologize. From the title of the original posting "Another Villager Biker Scofflaw", I was anticipating a Harley-Davidson speeding at 65 mph on a Multi-Modal Trail. Instead, I got a 70 year old lady crossing the street against the light.

Anyhow, no harm was done and I hope I did not ruffle too many feathers. It was not my intent.

:coolsmiley:

BigLew 12-05-2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatherer47 (Post 425480)
So John reports a situation with a bike rider that's obviously a safety concern and another poster says what's the big deal? Like "no harm no foul". All too often here we get this kind of response where the original poster is criticized for even posting what he saw.We had this same kind of response when grandpa let his grandson wreck the golf cart and destroy a gate.Some posters said what's the big deal.Good grief some people sure are [you fill in the word]

jeez....some people have to complain about everything, even complainers!
:a20::pepper2:

BigLew 12-05-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 425503)
If my posting was out of line and seemed petty, I do apologize. From the title of the original posting "Another Villager Biker Scofflaw", I was anticipating a Harley-Davidson speeding at 65 mph on a Multi-Modal Trail. Instead, I got a 70 year old lady crossing the street against the light.

Anyhow, no harm was done and I hope I did not ruffle too many feathers. It was not my intent.

she might have been wearing a leather jacket....maybe even a bandana <shiver>

:)

Indydealmaker 12-05-2011 12:30 PM

Contrarians
 
If you will notice, there are some posters who rarely post with any positive comments. They are invariably negative and unnecessarily contrarian. Just click on their names and go to their statistics and read their past posts. Maybe there is an award for the most negativity.

SgtJohn 12-05-2011 12:34 PM

Hmm, If someone complains about complainers, does that make them a complainer as well ? Just a thought.

BOMBERO 12-05-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtJohn (Post 425723)
Hmm, If someone complains about complainers, does that make them a complainer as well ? Just a thought.

What do you call someone who complains about people who complain about people who complain? Where's this going? Just asking.

CaptJohn 12-05-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BOMBERO (Post 425733)
What do you call someone who complains about people who complain about people who complain? Where's this going? Just asking.

Reminds me of the statement Bill Clinton made: Depends on what the definition of "is" is.

SgtJohn 12-05-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOMBERO (Post 425733)
What do you call someone who complains about people who complain about people who complain? Where's this going? Just asking.

My Point Exactly

John_W 12-05-2011 04:57 PM

...But nobody answered the question, why did the woman cross the road?

Bill-n-Brillo 12-05-2011 05:04 PM

To get to the other side?

Bill :)

SgtJohn 12-05-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 425803)
...But nobody answered the question, why did the woman cross the road?

Come on..... She's a women, does she really need a reason.


Sorry about that. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Villages PL 12-08-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrheydt (Post 425493)
Gatherer - You hit the nail on the head. This board is basically for all of us to post what we want without being criticized. It's just a message board. If people are not interested in a subject don't read it. If others want to post things that they are interested in far be it from me to criticize them for posting it. Apparently they took the time and effort to post it.

Absolutely, that's a good policy, John. In that spirit, I would like to offer the following poem to lighten things up a bit. It was inspired by your words: "She was no spring chicken."


......No Spring Chicken......

Why did the chicken cross the street?
To get to the other side!
Sitting atop her bicycle seat,
away, away she did ride.

Breaking laws crossing 466,
she's been known to ruffle a feather;
but she does it for her two little chicks
who are known as Alice and Heather.


You know, John, I suspect I have seen this woman twice. The first time was several months ago. As I was leaving Publix she was coming in and she stepped up on the scale. She is so thin, I was curious to see how much she would weigh, so I slowed down and looked. She weighed about 102 pounds. Does that fit the discription of the woman you saw? Her bicycle was parked just outside the door.

Then about a week ago, I saw the same woman walking her bicycle after having crossed 466 near CVS. She was headed towards Publix. One thing I noticed is that she wasn't wearing a helmet. I remember wondering if she knew that she could be fined $77 dollars for not wearing a helmet. But now I'm wondering if she might have taken it off to cross 466. When you saw her, was she wearing a helmet?

In any case, if it's the same woman, I think she does attract attention (even when not breaking the law) because she doesn't fit the profile for the average bike rider in TV.

:)

jebartle 12-08-2011 02:06 PM

Hmmm!....good point
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by renrod (Post 425351)
"If you can cross a street on/with a bicycle, why not a golf cart?"


I always wondered about Rolling Acres Rd....I wondered if the difference would be that they would be walking with a cross-walk signal...Although I must admit, I've noticed many walkers and bicycles crossing between Petco and "5 guy's" but CARTS are forbidden....Hmmm!

duffysmom 12-08-2011 02:10 PM

Is it mandatory to wear a helmet when riding a bike but not a motorcycle?:undecided:

Blackie 12-08-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 426911)
Is it mandatory to wear a helmet when riding a bike but not a motorcycle?:undecided:

Bike helmets are needed only for riders (or passengers) under 16 years of age

http://archive.flsenate.gov/statutes...0316.2065.html

MTHeineken 12-10-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackie (Post 426950)
Bike helmets are needed only for riders (or passengers) under 16 years of age

http://archive.flsenate.gov/statutes...0316.2065.html

Thanks for setting the record straight.

We are coming down for a Lifestyle visit on the 20th of this month and wondered if we had to buy helmets to ride the free bikes. Will be careful to abide by the rules of the road lest we get fined. By the way ... exactly what are some :ohdear: offenses that you can be fined for on a bike?

Any good places to ride the bikes?

BostonCelt 12-10-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTHeineken (Post 427693)
Thanks for setting the record straight.

We are coming down for a Lifestyle visit on the 20th of this month and wondered if we had to buy helmets to ride the free bikes. Will be careful to abide by the rules of the road lest we get fined. By the way ... exactly what are some :ohdear: offenses that you can be fined for on a bike?

Any good places to ride the bikes?

Being fresh off a Lifestyle visit I can tell you the free bikes come with free helmets, so don't bother buying or bringing additional ones.

I'll let the long time veterans respond about offenses and good places to ride. I, too, will be interested in that info, as I'll be closing in January....which reminds me....bring your checkbook!

Have a great visit!!

MTHeineken 12-10-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonCelt (Post 427716)
Being fresh off a Lifestyle visit I can tell you the free bikes come with free helmets, so don't bother buying or bringing additional ones.

I'll let the long time veterans respond about offenses and good places to ride. I, too, will be interested in that info, as I'll be closing in January....which reminds me....bring your checkbook!

Have a great visit!!

Thanks, what type of home are you closing on if I may ask? Always interested as to what people are choosing and their reasons. Makes me think a little harder as to what I would want. From the sounds of things on this board a lot of people start looking again after they move in.

BostonCelt 12-10-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTHeineken (Post 427742)
Thanks, what type of home are you closing on if I may ask? Always interested as to what people are choosing and their reasons. Makes me think a little harder as to what I would want. From the sounds of things on this board a lot of people start looking again after they move in.

A new Designer (Iris) in Sanibel....I like the garage size w/ sep cart door, tho at first I didn't. Sales Reps are super, super helpful with absolutely NO pressure...

A bit off the thread topic here...suggest viewing some of the others re models, Sanibel, etc. And don't hesitate to ask just about anybody just about anything! At this stage of TV, I'll bet almost everything has been experienced by someone. There'll always be Buyer's Remorse to some degree, I s'pose, but I think most are genuinely satisfied.

MTHeineken 12-10-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonCelt (Post 427756)
A new Designer (Iris) in Sanibel....I like the garage size w/ sep cart door, tho at first I didn't. Sales Reps are super, super helpful with absolutely NO pressure...

A bit off the thread topic here...suggest viewing some of the others re models, Sanibel, etc. And don't hesitate to ask just about anybody just about anything! At this stage of TV, I'll bet almost everything has been experienced by someone. There'll always be Buyer's Remorse to some degree, I s'pose, but I think most are genuinely satisfied.

Sorry to get of the bike subject but greatly appreciate the reply.

Seems like bike rider infractions are taken very seriously and I surely would not want to endanger either myself or someone else out of ingnorance of the laws.

Maybe I ought to just leave the bikes in the garage (for fear of getting a ticket) and just drive the Golf Car.


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