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Villages PL 12-21-2011 05:46 PM

News story not reported by Daily Sun Why?
 
I wonder if anyone here heard of this: It was perhaps over a year ago that a golf cart burst into flames at the shopping center, between Publix and Winn Dixie. By the time I arrived, the fire was put out by the fire department and the air was full of smoke that had the strong smell of plastic. I didn't hang around because I didn't want to breathe it in. So I went to Publix to do some shopping.

While in Publix, a young woman (an employee of Publix) came in and was showing everyone the picture she took of the fire. I was amazed. It was a fantastic picture showing the cart enveloped in a big ball of flames. It was a much bigger fire than I had imagined. She said the cart was driven by a man and he jumped to safety and had no injuries.

I told the woman that she should give the picture to the Daily Sun. I thought they might even be willing to pay her something for her trouble. I wondered what had happened to cause the cart to burst into flames and was hoping to read about it to find out. So I waited and waited but the story was never reported. Eventually, I called the newspaper and was told that because the fire happened after 5:00 pm, the newspaper was closed.

Is that the way things work? If there's a bad accident or mishap after 5:00 pm, it doesn't get reported? I find this hard to believe. How bad does it have to be? Would they report a house burning down after 5:00 pm?

:sad:

graciegirl 12-21-2011 05:57 PM

It is VillagesFlorida and Villages Pl that I recently had confused. VillagesFlorida is a girl..and she took her picture off of her avatar recently and Villages Pl, a guy, never had any picture.

There posts are very different too.

Sorry Villages Pl...you were saying about the Sun?

eweissenbach 12-21-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 431503)
I wonder if anyone here heard of this: It was perhaps over a year ago that a golf cart burst into flames at the shopping center, between Publix and Winn Dixie. By the time I arrived, the fire was put out by the fire department and the air was full of smoke that had the strong smell of plastic. I didn't hang around because I didn't want to breathe it in. So I went to Publix to do some shopping.

While in Publix, a young woman (an employee of Publix) came in and was showing everyone the picture she took of the fire. I was amazed. It was a fantastic picture showing the cart enveloped in a big ball of flames. It was a much bigger fire than I had imagined. She said the cart was driven by a man and he jumped to safety and had no injuries.

I told the woman that she should give the picture to the Daily Sun. I thought they might even be willing to pay her something for her trouble. I wondered what had happened to cause the cart to burst into flames and was hoping to read about it to find out. So I waited and waited but the story was never reported. Eventually, I called the newspaper and was told that because the fire happened after 5:00 pm, the newspaper was closed.

Is that the way things work? If there's a bad accident or mishap after 5:00 pm, it doesn't get reported? I find this hard to believe. How bad does it have to be? Would they report a house burning down after 5:00 pm?

:sad:

I know nothing about the 5 pm deadline, but the daily sun is little more than a marketing tool of TV. They are not likely to, nor are they expected to, report news that may not promote the villages in a positive way. I say that not as a criticism, but as an observation. The developer owns and controls the content and they can report what they choose. It is a nice tool for what it is, and for what it isn't, there are many other news sources to choose from.

janmcn 12-21-2011 06:23 PM

Another story the newspaper got wrong
 
On Christmas Eve 2005, I was living in a CYV in Poinciana when a designer home a few blocks away burned to the ground. The owners and their grand daughter escaped with only the clothes on their backs. The house and their cars were a total loss. I watched the house burn from my bedroom window.

Sometime later, The Villages Daily Sun reported that the house had been struck by lightning. This was on a clear, cool December night about 11:00pm.

When I called the reporter about the error, she said it was the headline writer that made the error, and she knew it wasn't caused by lightning. No correction was ever printed.

Cause of the fire according to neighbors: the golf cart caught fire while being charged. I'm just guessing that the golf cart was bought at The Villages Golf Carts.

Challenger 12-21-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 431515)
On Christmas Eve 2005, I was living in a CYV in Poinciana when a designer home a few blocks away burned to the ground. The owners and their grand daughter escaped with only the clothes on their backs. The house and their cars were a total loss. I watched the house burn from my bedroom window.

Sometime later, The Villages Daily Sun reported that the house had been struck by lightning. This was on a clear, cool December night about 11:00pm.

When I called the reporter about the error, she said it was the headline writer that made the error, and she knew it wasn't caused by lightning. No correction was ever printed.

Cause of the fire according to neighbors: the golf cart caught fire while being charged. I'm just guessing that the golf cart was bought at The Villages Golf Carts.

and your point is?

CarGuys 12-21-2011 10:25 PM

and your point is?
 
Ahhhhhhhh lighting has many electrons!

And a dead short in a series of Batteries with positive hot cables hooked to a charger. Maybe not fused that would result in glowing wires and melted plastic followed by sparks and a fire.

Heck Ford has been burning down Garages and catching vehicles on fire for years. Low bidder on them electrical switches.

I think that is what was meant?

Never thought about a electrical fire from a Charging Cart- NOT GOOD!:ohdear:

Bogie Shooter 12-21-2011 10:34 PM

Five years ago, over a year ago........can't you find something more current to complain about???

graciegirl 12-22-2011 04:26 AM

You all are making Car Guy go crazy. It isn't pretty to watch.:cus:

Jim Straz 12-22-2011 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 431666)
You all are making Car Guy go crazy. It isn't pretty to watch.:cus:

I agree!

Figmo Bohica 12-22-2011 06:50 AM

This is as bad as someone I know who keeps bring up the shooting that happened several years ago. Could we keep it to current happenings, maybe. Just wondering.

duffysmom 12-22-2011 07:53 PM

I believe the POA will be reporting all cart accidents in their newspaper. It's a serious problem and is underreported by the Sun. In the last 5 years there were 10 deaths by cart.

Bogie Shooter 12-22-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duffysmom (Post 431902)
I believe the POA will be reporting all cart accidents in their newspaper. It's a serious problem and is underreported by the Sun. In the last 5 years there were 10 deaths by cart.

Where does that number come from?

CarGuys 12-22-2011 10:41 PM

???
 
It's all just Ohms law. Resistance goes down Current goes up

I hear your new EZ Go has the Electric Seat Warmers and Heated Steering Wheel.

Snowbirdtobe 12-23-2011 06:51 AM

In the Daily Sunny bad things about TV are never reported.
In TOTV bad things are reported and then bumped again and again.

Jim Straz 12-23-2011 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 431942)
It's all just Ohms law. Resistance goes down Current goes up

I hear your new EZ Go has the Electric Seat Warmers and Heated Steering Wheel.

If something significant hits my Golf Cart, I'd rather be sitting over my battery's than five gallons of gas. Just a scorching thought!

getdul981 12-23-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 431626)
Ahhhhhhhh lighting has many electrons!

And a dead short in a series of Batteries with positive hot cables hooked to a charger. Maybe not fused that would result in glowing wires and melted plastic followed by sparks and a fire.

Heck Ford has been burning down Garages and catching vehicles on fire for years. Low bidder on them electrical switches.

I think that is what was meant?

Never thought about a electrical fire from a Charging Cart- NOT GOOD!:ohdear:

Also, when batteries are being charged, they emit hydrogen gas which is extremely flammable. (Ever heard of the Hindenberg?)

jblum315 12-23-2011 03:31 PM

Get used to it. The Daily Sun is an advertising vehicle for the developer,not a newspaper.

janmcn 12-23-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 432160)
Get used to it. The Daily Sun is an advertising vehicle for the developer,not a newspaper.

You are absolutely correct. It's unbelievable that a city the size of The Villages does not have an unbiased reputable newspaper. Everything you hear is based on gossip and innuendo.

Bogie Shooter 12-23-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 432166)
You are absolutely correct. It's unbelievable that a city the size of The Villages does not have an unbiased reputable newspaper. Everything you hear is based on gossip and innuendo.

???

Barefoot 12-23-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowbirdtobe (Post 431995)

In TOTV bad things are reported and then bumped again and again.

And this can occur as a result of a rumour, not necessarily first-hand knowledge. However most info posted does have some basis in fact. I hope.

buggyone 12-23-2011 03:59 PM

The only reason I have mentioned the murder that happened about 5 years ago in The Villages is to remind people that The Villages is a very, very safe place to live - and that. personally, I feel it is foolish to go around The Villages carrying a loaded pistol. No one is going to attack you at the town squares or on the streets of The Villages.

Bogie Shooter 12-23-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 432172)
The only reason I have mentioned the murder that happened about 5 years ago in The Villages is to remind people that The Villages is a very, very safe place to live - and that. personally, I feel it is foolish to go around The Villages carrying a loaded pistol. No one is going to attack you at the town squares or on the streets of The Villages.

Be ready to duck.........the responses will be heading your way.:duck:

BigLew 12-23-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 432172)
The only reason I have mentioned the murder that happened about 5 years ago in The Villages is to remind people that The Villages is a very, very safe place to live - and that. personally, I feel it is foolish to go around The Villages carrying a loaded pistol. No one is going to attack you at the town squares or on the streets of The Villages.

it's actually like lightening...it never hits you until the bolt that fries you. You haven't been attacked until you are and that could be anywhere!

Villages PL 12-24-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 431678)
This is as bad as someone I know who keeps bring up the shooting that happened several years ago. Could we keep it to current happenings, maybe. Just wondering.

Sorry, I had nothing to do with the shooting being brought up over and over. I wouldn't bring it up (again) because it was reported in the newspaper. Case closed!

As far as this golf cart fire, I wasn't aware that we had TOTV back then. Otherwise, I would have brought it up sooner. Other than being somewhat curious, my main interest is public safety. We have a public safety department(PSD) here in The Villages, don't we? If a police report was filled out when the fire occured, the PSD should have known about it. Wouldn't the fire department or police department have reported it to the PSD? Or wouldn't the PSD have checked to see what reports had been filed during the previous day?

If something is a danger, like golf carts bursting into flames while being driven in TV, shouldn't it be something the PSD brings to the attention of Villagers? And, is it ever too late to warn Villagers of this danger? Suppose, without warning, it happens again to older (disabled?) people with grandchildren (on board) who are not so quick (or unable) to jump to safety? What will you say then? Will you say you're glad that no one bothered you by bringing it up as a warning?

Note: This post is for everyone who was bothered by the fact that I reported this event.

Bogie Shooter 12-24-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 432405)
Sorry, I have nothing to do with the shooting being brought up over and over. I wouldn't bring it up (again) because it was reported in the newspaper. Case closed!

As far as this golf cart fire, I wasn't aware that we had TOTV back then. Otherwise, I would have brought it up sooner. Other than being somewhat curious, my main interest is public safety. We have a public safety department(PSD) here in The Villages, don't we? If a police report was filled out when the fire occured, the PSD should have known about it. Wouldn't the fire department or police department have reported it to the PSD? Or wouldn't the PSD have checked to see what reports had been filed during the previous day?

If something is a danger, like golf carts bursting into flames while being driven in TV, shouldn't it be something the PSD brings to the attention of Villagers? And, is it ever too late to warn Villagers of this danger? Suppose, without warning, it happens again to older (disabled?) people with grandchildren (on board) who are not so quick (or unable) to jump to safety? What will you say then? Will you say you're glad that no one bothered you by bringing it up as a warning?Note: This post is for everyone who was bothered by the fact that I reported this event, like boggie shooter and others.

Now they been warned, what behavior do you recommend they change?

Villages PL 12-24-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 432409)
Now they been warned, what behavior do you recommend they change?

Didn't the police or fire department do an investigation into the cause of the fire? Why put the burden on me to figure out what behavior should be changed? If I venture a guess, you will then proceed to argue with me about it and it's all hypothetical. No thanks. If you want to argue with someone, call the PSD.

janmcn 12-24-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 432409)
Now they been warned, what behavior do you recommend they change?

The behavior that should be changed is these incidents should be reported to the public when they happen by an unbiased reputable newspaper. Is it more important to save lives or make The Villages look good?

Bogie Shooter 12-24-2011 02:50 PM

I seem to recall there was an article covering this issue.

graciegirl 12-24-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 432425)
The behavior that should be changed is these incidents should be reported to the public when they happen by an unbiased reputable newspaper. Is it more important to save lives or make The Villages look good?

Say what?

Lordie...we can get from 0 to sixty here faster than any other bunch I know.

Villages PL 12-24-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 432428)
Say what?

Lordie...we can get from 0 to sixty here faster than any other bunch I know.

And the speed limit is 20 mph unless otherwise posted. :)

janmcn 12-24-2011 04:53 PM

News story not reported by Daily Sun Why?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 432427)
I seem to recall there was an article covering this issue.

That's very strange that you recall the article, but the thread starter said it was never reported by The Daily Sun. That was the purpose of this thread. Go back and read post #1.

Bogie Shooter 12-24-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 432425)
The behavior that should be changed is these incidents should be reported to the public when they happen by an unbiased reputable newspaper. Is it more important to save lives or make The Villages look good?

I'm done.
Merry Christmas!

eweissenbach 12-24-2011 05:02 PM

I repeat, the Daily Sun is EXCELLENT at what it aims to be. It is a marketing tool for TV with some interesting local human interest stories and some news taken off the wire services. It will never win a Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting, and no one should expect such. If TV marketing deems a story to be not in the best interest of marketing homes, it will not be likely to show up in the DS. And don't take this as a dig at the developer, it is not, I worked for years in marketing and know of whence I speak.

Schaumburger 12-24-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 432467)
I repeat, the Daily Sun is EXCELLENT at what it aims to be. It is a marketing tool for TV with some interesting local human interest stories and some news taken off the wire services. It will never win a Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting, and no one should expect such. If TV marketing deems a story to be not in the best interest of marketing homes, it will not be likely to show up in the DS. And don't take this as a dig at the developer, it is not, I worked for years in marketing and know of whence I speak.

Oldcoach Ed -- excellent post. Merry Christmas to you!

graciegirl 12-24-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 432464)
That's very strange that you recall the article, but the thread starter said it was never reported by The Daily Sun. That was the purpose of this thread. Go back and read post #1.

I find the Daily Sun reports pretty well for a small town newspaper and a sales tool. Perhaps it is the editorial page that kinda gets to you?

It is all what you are used to. The papers back in Ohio all had Conservative slants.

CarGuys 12-25-2011 10:23 PM

The Sun
 
When we were here for our life style visit one of the things we enjoyed was that Sun paper delieverd to the CYV every morning.

Full of Adds and Homes and information for TV

I take it for what it is, Someting to read. I can get all the dirt I need else where on TV or the Net. Sometimes we need a little more Mayberry RFD Sunshine!

IMHO

gatherer47 12-26-2011 11:42 AM

I enjoy reading the Daily Sun everyday.It serves its purpose of keeping Villagers informed of Village happenings and services.I used to have a problem with all the local sports coverage[not of the local high schools]but of all the softball,golf,pickleball results,etc,but I'm even over that.In fact when I'm back in Pa,I keep caught up by reading it online.As far as local "bad" news not mentioned,well if it's not,I know it will be mentioned here.


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