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njbchbum 12-27-2011 08:36 PM

new quirk on totv today
 
used to be i could just click once on my back arrow to return to any main discussion page BUT today i have to click twice...one click takes me nowhere [physically] except that the back arrow reads http://googleleads.g.doubleclick.net.page

does anyone have any idea what the heck this is - besides just annoying?

JimPete 12-27-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum;***181
used to be i could just click once on my back arrow to return to any main discussion page BUT today i have to click twice...one click takes me nowhere [physically] except that the back arrow reads http://googleleads.g.doubleclick.net.page

does anyone have any idea what the heck this is - besides just annoying?

Don't know, but it's happening to me too. Odd.

Golf-Tinker 12-27-2011 09:50 PM

An Answer??
 
http://forums.seochat.com/google-opt...et-250816.html

This link may explain the source of the problem. I have not noticed the problem on my IPad.

njbchbum 12-27-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golf-Tinker;***212
http://forums.seochat.com/google-opt...et-250816.html

This link may explain the source of the problem. I have not noticed the problem on my IPad.

thanx for the referral - but it did not help me understand this situation...is this something that the admin is responsible for? the referred site did not recommend how to get rid of the annoyance - or did i miss that?

njbchbum 12-27-2011 10:27 PM

more info about doubleclick is available here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleClick

and i don't think i like anything that i read there! unless i misread something - we are being tracked? hmmmmm.......

TOTV Team 12-27-2011 10:44 PM

3 Attachment(s)
There were no Google ads displayed on TOTV today, so this is likely a result that as you are surfing the internet Google is trying to get you involved in a survey and that (DoubleClick) is the company that conducts the surveys. I've had it happen to me as I'm on the internet and the attached images are examples of what I've seen.

If anyone has any site related issues please feel free to email us at talkofthevillages@gmail.com.

Thanks

CarGuys 12-27-2011 11:41 PM

Yea
 
For the first time in Months

I have had no IE security or NAV warnings while surfing all over TOTV

Wonderful!

Herv

collie1228 12-28-2011 08:13 AM

I'm thinking it's more than a mere annoyance - and that tracking is probably the answer. If I'm being tracked, I would expect the owners of this site to let me know so I can opt out if I prefer. But I guess in this "digital age" that's probably too much to ask.

njbchbum 12-28-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin;***229
There were no Google ads displayed on TOTV today, so this is likely a result that as you are surfing the internet Google is trying to get you involved in a survey and that (DoubleClick) is the company that conducts the surveys. I've had it happen to me as I'm on the internet and the attached images are examples of what I've seen.

If anyone has any site related issues please feel free to email us at talkofthevillages@gmail.com.

Thanks

i get no such images nor requests for surveys anywhere - just the annoying need to 'double click' to return to the discussion page. it has never happened in my more than ten years of web surfing that i can recall!

how do we get rid of this annoyance?

thanx

TOTV Team 12-28-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collie1228;***274
I'm thinking it's more than a mere annoyance - and that tracking is probably the answer. If I'm being tracked, I would expect the owners of this site to let me know so I can opt out if I prefer. But I guess in this "digital age" that's probably too much to ask.


NO, we do not track at TOTV. Please see our post above, this is done when you are surfing the web through your browser ie: Internet Explorer. We do not track any device at TOTV. You should make sure you clear your cookies and cache after each internet session to better protect your privacy.

TOTV Team 12-28-2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum;***351
i get no such images nor requests for surveys anywhere - just the annoying need to 'double click' to return to the discussion page. it has never happened in my more than ten years of web surfing that i can recall!

how do we get rid of this annoyance?

thanx

I bet you don't have this problem with another browser. I would suspect you are using IE and if you went to say FireFox you wouldn't experience this. This is not a TOTV site issue but your browser. We'd recommend running your anti virus and then clearing all your cookies and cache.

njbchbum 12-28-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin;***397
I bet you don't have this problem with another browser. I would suspect you are using IE and if you went to say FireFox you wouldn't experience this. This is not a TOTV site issue but your browser. We'd recommend running your anti virus and then clearing all your cookies and cache.

thank you - am using ie9 for my browser - can you tell me why this is the first time ever that the browser has done this? - and why it would not be doing it on other websites? thanx

mokey 12-28-2011 05:07 PM

I have not had the problem until late also. Same browser, but now need to double click to return.

TOTV Team 12-28-2011 05:15 PM

Run your anti virus, clear your cookies and cache, and try another browser besides IE. If you have or had a virus you may also need to reset your router.

njbchbum 12-28-2011 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum;***435
thank you - am using ie9 for my browser - can you tell me why this is the first time ever that the browser has done this? - and why it would not be doing it on other websites? thanx

admin - what are the ***and numbers that follow our names in a quote?

Schaumburger 12-29-2011 12:36 PM

TOTV rules for posting
 
Interesting that before I could post today, I had to click to accept TOTV terms for posting. Not a problem, but just wondering if this is something new from the Admins, or something that is now required annually to be done by TOTV posters.

skyguy79 12-29-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schaumburger;***695
Interesting that before I could post today, I had to click to accept TOTV terms for posting. Not a problem, but just wondering if this is something new from the Admins, or something that is now required annually to be done by TOTV posters.

I got it too. I think it was set for everybody to read and accept. I'm on another forum that does the same every so often because some people need a reminder while some may have not yet read them! Possibly the same reason for it here!

NotGolfer 12-29-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schaumburger;***695
Interesting that before I could post today, I had to click to accept TOTV terms for posting. Not a problem, but just wondering if this is something new from the Admins, or something that is now required annually to be done by TOTV posters.


I too had to click on agreeing to TOTV terms before coming in to comment! Just wondering if this is a reminder...or what??!!

Schaumburger 12-29-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79;***696
I got it too. I think it was set for everybody to read and accept. I'm on another forum that does the same every so often because some people need a reminder while some may have not yet read them! Possibly the same reason for it here!

skyguy, now that I'm not the only one to have to do this, it must be an annual reminder about the posting rules for TOTV that everyone will need to read and accept before they can post again.

TOTV Team 12-29-2011 01:26 PM

We did an update on the forum usage guidelines and this was just to update all users. Let us know if we can assist.

Thanks

CarGuys 12-29-2011 09:43 PM

Double Click etc!
 
I also recieved the form update. at first felt like getting a reminder ticket? Glad all recieved this.

On the IE9 double click. This may sound stupid but is there not a malware out there called doubleclick? I am not an expert on this.

I am using IE8 and no problems. And thanks to Admin(s) No nasty popup IE warnings the last several days anyware on site! VERY HAPPY HERV!

njbchbum 12-29-2011 11:02 PM

car guys - never heard of it - but i'll look it up - later.

but if it were that, can you figure out why it would NOLY happen on the totv site and not others i am surfing?

confused also because it started to happen with a couple of other posters the same day?

it is a puzzlement!

CarGuys 12-29-2011 11:11 PM

??? Click
 
If it only happens on a certain site then you have to suspect a Key Logger Device or a Spyware / Malware /program that is recording your clicks? IMHO

But as I say I am Nooooooo expert on computer items. Just sort of always curious about " Cause and Effect"

Doctor- Computer Experts- CarGuys - Science Guys we are always looking at the Cause and effect of a diagnoistic procedure.

But it's late I better quit before I get in trouble-

I would revert your IE back to IE8 and see if this still happens. I belive if you do a uninstall it will put you back to the previous version.

If it is gone there is your problem. Stay with IE 8 until they debug it.

skyguy79 12-29-2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarGuys;***897
I also recieved the form update. at first felt like getting a reminder ticket? Glad all recieved this.

On the IE9 double click. This may sound stupid but is there not a malware out there called doubleclick? I am not an expert on this.

I am using IE8 and no problems. And thanks to Admin(s) No nasty popup IE warnings the last several days anyware on site! VERY HAPPY HERV!

Doubleclick is considered malware by some and not by others. It's been around since 1995 and was acquired by Google back in 2007. You can learn more about it at the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleClick

TOTV Team 12-29-2011 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum;***947
car guys - never heard of it - but i'll look it up - later.

but if it were that, can you figure out why it would NOLY happen on the totv site and not others i am surfing?

confused also because it started to happen with a couple of other posters the same day?

it is a puzzlement!

Have you ran your antivirus software and cleared your cookies and cache?

Bill-n-Brillo 12-30-2011 08:01 AM

I ate something for dinner the other day that just about "cleared my cookies"...... :shocked:

Sorry - just couldn't resist. :D

And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread!

Bill :)

njbchbum 12-30-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin;***966
Have you ran your antivirus software and cleared your cookies and cache?

YES! multiple times! thank you.

Jazzper 12-30-2011 10:35 AM

hmmmm....looks like it might be an IE9 - Google issue
 
Just started happening to me too. I'm running IE9, Vista, MS Security Essentials and MalwareBytes Pro on this PC. Ran Glary Utilities, cleared out all my cookies, and even removed all IE Add-ons but still had same problem - but only on this site.

Rooted around and saw numerous mentions of it elsewhere (including this one the Fusion site) and this little tidbit on:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...d-fbe15ae1bed0

I may try the bit about blocking googleads.g.doubleclick.net just for S&G's later today but I've got to get back to real-life retirement -e.g. golf and billiards!

This sounds like it's gonna be a tricky one-:)

skyguy79 12-30-2011 11:42 AM

What I find baffling is why some of us are having these problems whereas some of us are not. I for one am not having the same problems being discussed and can't figure out why that is if a connection to TOTV is really involved. Because of this I find it hard to believe that TOTV has any direct connection to the problem.

As for the cookies like doubleclick, I checked my computer yesterday and had several being doubleclick and a lot more from elsewhere. I used to be concerned and tried deleting as many as I could find to delete while keeping those I didn't want to. What I found was that I was experiencing an exercise in futility because within a day or two most were back again. It was a never ending battle and I gave up trying long ago except when I do an occasional clearing of my cashe.

In the past I have had personal experience in this area as well as being a 10 year administrator for a moderately large award winning non-profit website. I don't however consider myself an expert by any means, but I do wish that I did have the expertise to be able to identify why others are having a problem and possibly be able to identify the problem and offer a solution, but sadly I can't. I would love to be able to do that!

TOTV Team 12-30-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79
What I find baffling is why some of us are having these problems whereas some of us are not. I for one am not having the same problems being discussed and can't figure out why that is if a connection to TOTV is really involved. Because of this I find it hard to believe that TOTV has any direct connection to the problem.

As for the cookies like doubleclick, I checked my computer yesterday and had several being doubleclick and a lot more from elsewhere. I used to be concerned and tried deleting as many as I could find to delete while keeping those I didn't want to. What I found was that I was experiencing an exercise in futility because within a day or two most were back again. It was a never ending battle and I gave up trying long ago except when I do an occasional clearing of my cashe.

In the past I have had personal experience in this area as well as being a 10 year administrator for a moderately large award winning non-profit website. I don't however consider myself an expert by any means, but I do wish that I did have the expertise to be able to identify why others are having a problem and possibly be able to identify the problem and offer a solution, but sadly I can't. I would love to be able to do that!

Google blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames Google. Hence why I've gone on to use Firefox. Since becoming accustom to using something different, I now prefer it. To your point if you surf the internet you will get tagged with cookies that try to track what your interest are so ultimately they can target you with relevant advertising.

skyguy79 12-30-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin (Post 434157)
Google blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames Google. Hence why I've gone on to use Firefox. Since becoming accustom to using something different, I now prefer it. To your point if you surf the internet you will get tagged with cookies that try to track what your interest are so ultimately they can target you with relevant advertising.

I am quite aware of that, but it didn't hurt to explain it for others edification. Aside from that I had a problem that others didn't mention with previewing posts and sometimes when posting. The page would render in mostly text sometimes rather than the the full HTML. I think I've found a solution to that problem by disabeling add-ons in IE. Haven't had the problem with testing it several times, but won't trust it's solved until more posting are done. So far I haven't noticed any problems in doing so! Fingers are crossed and tme will tell.

Jazzper 12-30-2011 07:47 PM

SOLVED -- at least for me!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin (Post 434157)
Google blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames Google. Hence why I've gone on to use Firefox. Since becoming accustom to using something different, I now prefer it. To your point if you surf the internet you will get tagged with cookies that try to track what your interest are so ultimately they can target you with relevant advertising.

That's certainly seems to be the concensus out there. As promised, I tried the suggestion on: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...d-fbe15ae1bed0

in which the poster suggested adding an exclusion to IE under the Security tab.

After going thru numerous permutations of googleads.doubleclick.net (using * to expand the range of exclusions) and not having any success (perhaps because that poster was on IE8 and I'm on IE9), I had a "DUH moment" before adding "*.doubleclick.net" to my firewall's Blocked Sites list.

Worked like a charm.
Took it out and the problem returned.
Since I see no particular reason for permitting **** -- (my stars;) ) --from doubleclick.net coming into my purview, it's gonna stay there -- even if MS and Google work out their pi**ing contest!!

Have a nice night and a great New Years!!

zcaveman 12-30-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin (Post 434157)
Google blames Microsoft and Microsoft blames Google. Hence why I've gone on to use Firefox. Since becoming accustom to using something different, I now prefer it. To your point if you surf the internet you will get tagged with cookies that try to track what your interest are so ultimately they can target you with relevant advertising.

You might be happy with another browser but I am not. I have tried the other browsers and I like the functions that IE9 offers.

This doubleclick thing is not a virus as all of us that have scanned our systems with our anti-virus and our Malware products have found out. Our systems are clean.

In doing some research, I found this site that discusses the same problem:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/...99d95f6f&hl=en

This link discusses other sites that use googleads as a base.

I did find out that if you right click on the return arrow (left arrow), you can click on the entry under the googlead entry and get back to where you really want to go. Not sure it is any faster but it bypasses any googlead link and hopefully screws up their counts.

So until it gets fixed I guess us IE9 users have to live with it.

Z

CarGuys 12-30-2011 09:51 PM

Cheeze It Commercial
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79;***964
Doubleclick is considered malware by some and not by others. It's been around since 1995 and was acquired by Google back in 2007. You can learn more about it at the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleClick

Love those commercials! I Google em for laughs

Click Snap!

Was that a good check or a bad check!

CarGuys 12-30-2011 10:00 PM

Tracking
 
That is so true.

GM and OnStar just got pounded by the media for using your locations while driving your vehicle to sell your information and habits.

Verison and I Phone have been doing this for years! Only way to stop it is take you battery out. With OnStar you have to go into the dealership and have it modified!

So now the Wife wonders why we are getting Junk mail and Coupouns for Biker Bars, Chicken Wing Joints and Houses of I'll Repute!

Sorry Admin Me bad now I gotta sign another form LOL!

Jazzper 12-30-2011 10:25 PM

PS...forgot to add this bit to my "Solved it" post above for those who are adamant IE users.

After adding "doubleclick.net" to the Block Sites section in my Netgear router/firewall, when I mouseover the IE left arrow I no longer see that long googleads.doubleclick link but rather the usual context of wherever you were previously on TOTV.

That being said, I do have to agree with Admin's preference for Mozilla as I find it a lot faster, more stable, better add-ons and less overhead but I will say no more lest we start that debate! I do still use IE for testing purposes and just could not pass up this challenge -- now if MS and Google would just kiss and makeup...:laugh:

Xavier 12-30-2011 10:26 PM

Okay, here's the fix: In IE7, IE8, or IE9 click on Tools, then click on Internet Options, then click on the Security Tab. Click on the Restricted Sites Icon all the way to the right. Click on Sites (just below the Restricted Sites Icon). In the Add this Website to the Zone box, clear whatever is in there. Type *.doubleclick.com and click on Add. Go back to the Add this Wesite to the Zone box and clear anything that is in there. Type *.doubleclick.net and click on Add. Click on Close. Click on OK and you are done.

Added: Then go two posts down (#39) and make those changes.

Go back to Talk of the Villages and go to a thread. Click on the back button and wah-lah, all fixed.

Xavier

zcaveman 12-30-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 434362)
Okay, here's the fix: In IE7, IE8, or IE9 click on Tools, then click on Internet Options, then click on the Security Tab. Click on the Restricted Sites Icon all the way to the right. Click on Sites (just below the Restricted Sites Icon). In the Add this Website to the Zone box, clear whatever is in there. Type *.doubleclick.com and click on Add. Go back to the Add this Wesite to the Zone box and clear anything that is in there. Type *.doubleclick.net and click on Add. Click on Close. Click on OK and you are done.

Go back to Talk of the Villages and go to a thread. Click on the back button and wah-lah, all fixed.

Xavier

Did not work for me. I checked and both sites are in the list. I even shut down IE9 and restarted it. Darn!!

I guess I will have to try to put in the firewall in my router also.

Seems to be a hassle when it is not our problem.

Xavier 12-30-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 434370)
Did not work for me. I checked and both sites are in the list. I even shut down IE9 and restarted it. Darn!!

I guess I will have to try to put in the firewall in my router also.

Seems to be a hassle when it is not our problem.

It works fine for me. The only other thing that I did was: Click on Tools, Click on Security, Click on Custom level, Find "Launching programs and files in a IFRAME" and click on Disable. Find "Websites in less privileged web content can navigate into this zone" and click on Disable. Click on OK and Click on OK. Let me know how you make out.

Jazzper 12-30-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 434362)
Okay, here's the fix: In IE7, IE8, or IE9 click on Tools, then click on Internet Options, then click on the Security Tab. Click on the Restricted Sites Icon all the way to the right. Click on Sites (just below the Restricted Sites Icon). In the Add this Website to the Zone box, clear whatever is in there. Type *.doubleclick.com and click on Add. Go back to the Add this Wesite to the Zone box and clear anything that is in there. Type *.doubleclick.net and click on Add. Click on Close. Click on OK and you are done.

Go back to Talk of the Villages and go to a thread. Click on the back button and wah-lah, all fixed.

Xavier

Pretty sure this does not work for IE 9 -- does for IE 8, don't have IE 7 loaded anywhere. Just tried it on my Vista/IE v9.0.8112.16421 browser and it did not work.

Your mileage may vary....


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