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par 12-30-2011 12:17 PM

Seeing Green Fees
 
$32.00 Plus your $82.00 6 month "priority fee" using your own cart. $47.00 for a resident. If you add a portion of "priority fee" of $15.00 it comes to $47.00. Also if suddenly you had a health issue and couldn't play You won't get reimbursed. It happened to a few people in our golf group who had a yearly membership.:yuck:

graciegirl 12-30-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by par (Post 434120)
$32.00 Plus your $82.00 6 month "priority fee" using your own cart. $47.00 for a resident. If you add a portion of "priority fee" of $15.00 it comes to $47.00. Also if suddenly you had a health issue and couldn't play You won't get reimbursed. It happened to a few people in our golf group who had a yearly membership.:yuck:

It is typically $25,000 for initiation fees for a moderate Country Club with monthly dues being $400-500. And that means you play one course every time you play.

dillywho 12-30-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 434122)
It is typically $25,000 for initiation fees for a moderate Country Club with monthly dues being $400-500. And that means you play one course every time you play.

Well said, Gracie. As far as I know, those country clubs don't reimburse, either. They didn't where we come from and the courses are not what they are here. You're also right in that you are limited to usually only having one course for those.

The country clubs here are open for anyone to play without any kind of membership. The green fees are just higher than those with memberships or Villages residency, plus you have to add the cart/trail fee cost which is minimal. Also, anyone can eat at any of the country clubs anytime, whether they play golf or not, for the same price as residents or priority members and no monthly assessment. Overall, it seems to be a great deal.

Russ_Boston 12-30-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by par (Post 434120)
$32.00 Plus your $82.00 6 month "priority fee" using your own cart. $47.00 for a resident. If you add a portion of "priority fee" of $15.00 it comes to $47.00. Also if suddenly you had a health issue and couldn't play You won't get reimbursed. It happened to a few people in our golf group who had a yearly membership.:yuck:

There have been some discussions with appropriate math to determine 'priority' breakeven etc.

Basically it comes down to about 1 per week breakeven. Play less than that and you lose money. Play more than that and you are in the black.

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rubicon 12-30-2011 02:25 PM

If you buy a priority which i have done since moving here in 2006 then you need to play 66 timesin that year to break even.

There is only one issue with priority that leaves me a little flat.

The tier system states that is is priority/priority first, then priority/guest and then priority/resident then resident/resident.

I have the answer but question why priority/guests are above priority/residents/ I otherwords why should a guest be given better treatment then a resident who bought a home here? i mean the gust has no skin in the game.

Of course the answer is twofild. First it is to influence guest to buy here. Secondly it is a silent message to residents that they ought to buy priority

I'd complain but to whom and/or who would listen???????

Pturner 12-30-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 434172)
If you buy a priority which i have done since moving here in 2006 then you need to play 66 timesin that year to break even.

There is only one issue with priority that leaves me a little flat.

The tier system states that is is priority/priority first, then priority/guest and then priority/resident then resident/resident.

I have the answer but question why priority/guests are above priority/residents/ I otherwords why should a guest be given better treatment then a resident who bought a home here? i mean the gust has no skin in the game.

Of course the answer is twofild. First it is to influence guest to buy here. Secondly it is a silent message to residents that they ought to buy priority

I'd complain but to whom and/or who would listen???????

Why not ask Janet Tutt? She always seems to provide straight-forward answers. BTW, I think you raise a good point about priority/ guest having priority over priority/resident. I didn't know that.

steamdogman 12-30-2011 06:20 PM

Then go somewhere else to play. That will be less people on the great golf courses we have here................My goodness

Russ_Boston 12-30-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bobkendrigan (Post 434248)
Then go somewhere else to play. That will be less people on the great golf courses we have here................My goodness

Who, in particular, is this addressed to?

John_W 12-30-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 434172)
If you buy a priority which i have done since moving here in 2006 then you need to play 66 timesin that year to break even...

I've seen that 66 times mentioned before but that doesn't take into account the seasonal rate differences and times of day rates. For example if you were to play 66 times between May 1st and Oct 14th after 11am on most courses you would only save $198, that's far less than the cost of a membership. Non-members green fees is $19 and Priority Members is $16, only a $3 savings.

Mark1130 12-30-2011 08:24 PM

Is your 6 month membership apply to any particular starting month?

In other words, can I have just a 6 month membership starting in the month of my choice?

Mikeod 12-30-2011 09:40 PM

I think it starts on the date you purchase it. So, if you get it 1/1/12, it should end at the end of June.

ilovetv 12-30-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 434122)
It is typically $25,000 for initiation fees for a moderate Country Club with monthly dues being $400-500. And that means you play one course every time you play.

So true.....and here we don't have minimum spending requirements, assessments for capital improvements, 20% service charge, nor required letters of recommendation from club members (when you probably don't know enough members yet)...nor review by the board of trustees and membership to see if anyone wants you excluded.

I think sometimes people don't know how good we have it here!

stevep 12-30-2011 10:45 PM

PRIVATE COUNTRY CLUBS ARE HURTING, MOST NO LONGER HAVE INITIATION FEES, SPENDING REQUIREMENTS, OR WAITING LISTS...MANY HAVE SPECIAL LOW RATES TO SEDUCE NEW MEMBERS... THE GOLFING WORLD HAS TAKEN A BIG HIT IN THE LAST 5 YEARS...I AGREE TV GOLF RATES ARE HIGHER THEN THEY SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!:agree:

Russ_Boston 12-30-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevep (Post 434376)
PRIVATE COUNTRY CLUBS ARE HURTING, MOST NO LONGER HAVE INITIATION FEES, SPENDING REQUIREMENTS, OR WAITING LISTS...MANY HAVE SPECIAL LOW RATES TO SEDUCE NEW MEMBERS... THE GOLFING WORLD HAS TAKEN A BIG HIT IN THE LAST 5 YEARS...I AGREE TV GOLF RATES ARE HIGHER THEN THEY SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!:agree:

Hey, your caps lock button is on:cus:

hedoman 12-31-2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 434251)
Who, in particular, is this addressed to?

everybody it seems....

It is what it is folks. Waste of time complaining about it....call your congressman

Jhooman 12-31-2011 06:39 AM

Good morning! We just purchased the priority membership annually. I'm an avid golfer and the only way I could belong to a Women's golf club-Championship is to be a priority member.

I played with the Women's club at Glenview last week. I was greeted and introduced to other members of the club by a staff employee. The staff employee had our score cards ready and the option to play skins and closet to the pin. At the conclusion of the game, the staff employee posted our scores.

In California I belonged to three golf clubs and the annual cost was about $200.00. The cost to play a course with a cart was about $50 to $60 per round. The club was run by volunteers in the club.

So what's my point! The priority system ROCKS!!! The Villages ROCK! I belong to a huge country club. Dang life is so darn GOOD!:spoken::coolsmiley:

Yesterday we went to the movies in Spanish Springs. We saw Mission Impossible, had popcorn and soda. The total bill was less than $20.00. Back home it was double. Come on folks, this place is amazing. I have not seen those prices since 1974.:bigbow:

Please forgive me for my excitement, but I'm in awe of this place and I hope I never forget where I came from.

Enjoy your day folks, I'm playing golf at Lopez. Yeah:laugh:!

l2ridehd 12-31-2011 08:10 AM

By most measures golf in TV is cheap. Priority membership is great deal if you play in the winter months. If you play from April to December in TV and January to March outside TV, not such a good deal. The main benefit of the membership is available tee times during the busy season. The discount helps pay for that for avid golfers.

I realize I live in a fairly expensive area in Northern Virginia. So not a country wide comparison by any means. I belong to a private club with an excellent golf course. Initiation fee is normally 20K and yes they do run deals that drop that to around 10K every once in a while. Dues and food minimum and cart fees and mandatory guest fees run me an average of $1200 a month to play about 80-90 times a year. And then there is this thing called special assessments. When ever they want to or have to do something not in the budget, the membership gets assessed. I have been a member here for 15 years and have seen assessments from $500 to $5000. Total over 15 years has been about $10000. I do get to play any private club in the area as an exchange member in the PCN (private club network). Also when traveling you can play private clubs through PCN.

So my point with all this is when I move to TV next year my annual golf bill will drop significantly. The above cost is fairly typical of private clubs in this area as I researched many before joining this one. And someone will challenge these costs and say "but I play for $XX by" and they play public courses and specials and other ways. And I agree I pay a premium for my golf, but I can get a tee time anytime, I play a great course, have access to most private clubs, and a practice facility second to none. But any way I try to compare it to TV, golf in TV is cheap.

waynet 12-31-2011 09:46 AM

to me the priority membership is just like joining a mens club. You get better tee times,and are allowed to play in club events,mens day and other tournaments. In CT. where I play most mens clubs are between $900.00 and $1600.Also if you are lucky enough to meet a great group of guys to play with a priority membership is a must to get tee times. If you play golf more than once a week it's a no brainer. I don't think most people get a priority membership to save money they get it for convenience,tee times and events.

mrdills 12-31-2011 09:57 AM

I guess I missing something again, you don't save anything unless you play a lot of golf and play in the afternoons. The bottom line here is you still have to pay for the round of golf, and you are obligated to play or you will be losing money. I guess it comes down to how much golf you like to play and how much you want to spend.


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