2 car accident - roundabout by Havana
 

Two cars did a little fender kissing routine, luckily it looks like no one was hurt.

Maybe those new directional signs for the roundabouts will help.

Reducing each circle to one lane would help, doesn't seem that we get that much traffic that we couldn't manage.

Better yet, no more circles, make everyone of them a square like driving around the town squares. On second thought, we'd probably still need to make it one lane.

How about taking all of them out and hiring good old fashion traffic cops to direct the traffic flow. (They would need very good insurance.)

[QUOTE=BogeyBoy;435559]Two cars did a little fender kissing routine, luckily it looks like no one was hurt.

Reducing each circle to one lane would help, doesn't seem that we get that much traffic that we couldn't manage.

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My sentiments, exactly. I have said it before and I'll say it again, The Villages is no place for 2-lane roundabouts......too many old people with tunnel vision, not to mention poor vision, necks that don't turn so they can see who is beside them, a likely large percentage of them in the early stages of dementia. As many as 11% of people at age 65 have dementia and that number climbs to 25%-45% heading toward age 85......pretty scary to know that one in five people (or more) in a roundabout at any given time may not even know where they are. A retirement community is no place for roundabouts unless they are one lane.

Roundabouts are FAR SAFER than any other intersection that could be used to replace them. They certainly increase the traffic flow.

If someone is going to hit me, I'd prefer the glancing blow I'll get in a roundabout .vs. the t-bone of an intersection...

Two lanes in the traffic circles had to be (county ruling) in order to build to the particular density of homes here, at least in Sumter county.

[quote=VillagesFlorida;435572]As for roundabouts with dementia driven vehicles. it was just last week when I...... Wait, What were we talking about ? Nevermind, Happy New Year *LOL*

[quote=VillagesFlorida;435572] I love TV and I intend to buy there very soon ...I have been there many times and am very familiar with Morris and Buena Vista areas....Remember that those are public roads and you can't assume that every accident is because of someone elderly and you also can't assume that because someone is of a certain age they have somekind of an affliction....I have been involved with saftey training for commercial drivers for a long time now and one of the rules of the road is never ride next to anyone ....Always expect the unexpected....If you are in a round about never stay next to anyone incase they make a lane change without looking.....Almost all accidents are preventable by doing one easy thing we all can do....SLOW DOWN.....One other point is while driving any vehicle stay off the cell phone, it only takes a second not watching the road and you could be the next accident to happen....:spoken:

[quote=thistrucksforyou;435647]High five to you, thistrucksforyou. Excellent advice. Good common sense approach.

Ring
 

Wait a minute I was distracted txting while driving.

How many times do you eyball a driver, Truck Car or heck I have even seen bicyclers and motorcycle operators txting. At a light or coming at you looking down at the phone txting.

This is a Huge NATIONAL problem that until the devise is made immobile or is docked with the car for voice free will never go away.

It is getting scary out there. And teenagers are not the only ones to blame. I have seen people my age looking down wandering on the road to read a txt.:cus:

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Roundabout road rules
 

I think the real problem is that so many people do NOT know the rule to navigate a roundabout. If one is going more than halfway around one should use the inside lane. The outside lane is for those who are only going halfway of less than halfway around. This rule should be mandatory for every resident and renter to learn and understand.

What happens when the person on the inside lane want to exit but the person on the outside lane does not exit at the first exit? The inside car will hit the outside car. I thought that the outside car always exited at the first exit.

The roundabouts are fine the way they are. Generally I find that if people here in the villages actually knew how to drive in them there would be fewer problems. Most people do not seem to know the difference between the word "yield" and "stop".

I've lived in The Villages for a little over one year and I have never heard one disparaging word concerning the roundabouts except on TOTV ???

Maybe we need special "opt in" forums for dog poop and roundabout, like the political forum. :laugh::laugh:

OK, carry on....

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I think the traffic circles are GREAT here in The Villages....there would be more "fender benders" if we had all stop signs, and even worse would be stop lights at all the entrances. everything goes quite smoothly if people just wouldn't try to "beat the other guy out" and turn signals help too.

a little patience and consideration is all the drivers need.

As an example, I was on Morse yesterday driving a nice 36-38mp( I know over the speed limit) but it seemed like I was standing still.....so many cars ZOOMED by me!

then when they got to the traffic circles, they either had to stop or sped up to get through.

Just my opinion

I had to chuckle... In another thread, you talked about being in England, so I know you've driven in "real" roundabouts. The roundabouts in TV are childs play, compared to European roundabouts and especially the ones in England... I'm sure you'd agree.

OK....I'm out...

Nope, the outside car can exit either at the first or second exit.

John

The way I figure, as long as the outside car can pass an exit, an inside car can hit it or be hit when exiting. The outside car should exit the next exit, never passing an exit. If it passes an exit, it can cut the inside car off.

I'm not a leadfoot -- ask anyone in my family. During my visits to TV, I stuck to driving the speed limits on Morse, Buena Vista and 466, and I was passed many times. Felt just like I was driving in Chicago :).

There shouldn't be anyone in the inside lane - everywhere else in the US it is illegal to make a right turn from the left lane.


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Second Time Around!
 

If for some reason when going around a circle and you can't get to the outside lane to exit the circle, just go around the circle again. Chances are that you will be able to get in that outside portion of the circle the second time around! Had to do it myself a few times! Realize you always have that option.

:agree: I think most of the problems are a result of one or two errors I see. One is failure to yield to vehicles already in the roundabout. The second, and most frequent, is traveling 3/4 of the way around the circle in the outside lane. This creates two problems. One is where the vehicle in the inside lane is properly exiting at the third exit and now has a vehicle in their way. The other is the when a vehicle is planning to enter the roundabout and sees a vehicle in the outside lane that should be exiting, so the first vehicle starts to enter the roundabout and is now in the path of the vehicle improperly traveling in the outside lane.

I still think it is best to think of the roundabout as if it was a standard intersection without lights or signs. You don't make a right turn from the left lane and you don't make a left turn from the right lane. You don't enter an intersection if traffic is coming from your left. I don't think it's that hard.

I taught Driver Education for many years and the key thing I tried to teach new drivers is "never anticipate that the other person is going to do what is right or what you expect". In other words, always expect them to do the wrong thing and be ready to react to it. That philosophy has kept me accident free for over 40 years.

One lane roundabouts is the answer... put a yield sign for each entry.
JJ

Too many people assume that everyone on Villages streets is a Villages resident and knows the rules.
There are many, many vehicles out there from outside TV. Contractors and employees come to mind as well as visitors and just ordinary folks driving through. If residents can't figure these things out, how is an outsider going to know how to navigate the roundabouts?

Opt out of dog poop and roundabout threads? Now THAT would be disorienting! How would I know I was on TOTV? :shrug:

There was a rear end collision on 466A at Morse Blvd when the light turned red. I think they should take the stop lights down. :boxing2:

I think speed bumps every 50 feet on all the streets would solve all the problems.

STOP!!!! You're killing me!!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: