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Guest 01-04-2012 04:52 AM

Go Romney
 
I am very pleased with Romney in the front position and even more please where Bachmann and that weird guy from Texas are sitting.

Guest 01-04-2012 08:39 AM

who knows maybe another Senator will become a miracle dark horse coming from no where and winning as in the 2008 election!!

btk

Guest 01-04-2012 09:11 AM

Yeah, the Tea Party sure blew themselves up big time in Iowa. Michelle the Mouth is going to quit and slink back home. Freak Boy will go back to Texas and hopefully stay there.

Santorum is totally unelectable so let's hope that the evangical Republicans back him all the way.

Even Ann Coulter calls Ron Paul a "nut bar".

Good going in Iowa, guys.

Guest 01-04-2012 09:28 AM

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Yeah, the Tea Party sure blew themselves up big time in Iowa. Michelle the Mouth is going to quit and slink back home. Freak Boy will go back to Texas and hopefully stay there.

Santorum is totally unelectable so let's hope that the evangical Republicans back him all the way.

Even Ann Coulter calls Ron Paul a "nut bar".

Good going in Iowa, guys.

I am very curious. Do you call everyone who disagrees with or has a little different philosophy than you a name ? Or is that just on this forum ?

Disagreeing and offering ones opinion is one thing....trying to be cute and demean those who disagree with you is quite another.

Guest 01-04-2012 09:36 AM

that is the MO Bucco.
I had a professor who viewed such antics/behavior as compensating.

I would ask for what commentary would be offered for the dems' pack of candidates when the were at the similar stumbling stage prior to the 2008 election.

I also wonder if some of the more vehement posters are not reincarnations of those who used to be so demeaning to everybody and anything that was not their party during 2007. So many have slid away, but some of the current crop has a familiar ring.

btk

Guest 01-04-2012 09:53 AM

I still think that Romney will just be a repeat of the current administration. Remember the phase "career politican." Not one of them, D or R is a statesman and has the best interest of the country in mind. Its all "what can I get for myself and my party, and to hell with the country and what's best for the American People."

Guest 01-04-2012 10:28 AM

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that is the MO Bucco.
I had a professor who viewed such antics/behavior as compensating.

I would ask for what commentary would be offered for the dems' pack of candidates when the were at the similar stumbling stage prior to the 2008 election.

I also wonder if some of the more vehement posters are not reincarnations of those who used to be so demeaning to everybody and anything that was not their party during 2007. So many have slid away, but some of the current crop has a familiar ring.

btk

I thought the same thing BTK. Many of them sound like the folks here in 2007/2008 who just slung the mud and then disappeared as actual issues were discussed

Guest 01-04-2012 10:57 AM

Chances of Romney winning the nomination - 79.2%
Chances of Gingrich winning ............. - 4.1%
Chances of Santorum winning ................ - 5.5%
Chances of Paul winning ..................... - 1.9%


Chances of Obama winning reelection - 51.1%

Guest 01-04-2012 11:07 AM

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I still think that Romney will just be a repeat of the current administration. Remember the phase "career politican." Not one of them, D or R is a statesman and has the best interest of the country in mind. Its all "what can I get for myself and my party, and to hell with the country and what's best for the American People."

I don't think so. One of the things I like about Romney is that he already has all the wealth and power a person could earn, and he is steady and devoted in his family life.

His love of this nation shows clearly at all times. That's not the case with the current administration.

Guest 01-04-2012 11:26 AM

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I am very curious. Do you call everyone who disagrees with or has a little different philosophy than you a name ? Or is that just on this forum ?

Disagreeing and offering ones opinion is one thing....trying to be cute and demean those who disagree with you is quite another.

Libs use this strategy all of the time. It is right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Check out Number 5!

Guest 01-04-2012 11:33 AM

Mitt Romney's a candidate even democrats could support. I remember voting for him when he ran for the senate in 1994. He was pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and pro-universal health care. Go Mitt.

Guest 01-04-2012 11:34 AM

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Libs use this strategy all of the time. It is right out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Check out Number 5!

Exactly. They would mock and ridicule the discoverer of the cure for all types of cancer if he/she were a Republican.

Guest 01-04-2012 11:57 AM

Unfortunately for Mitt, he is about to receive the kiss of death.

A McCain endorsement. The cons will love that.

Guest 01-04-2012 12:03 PM

Mitt Romney believes marriage is between a man and a woman and another woman and another woman and another woman and another woman.

Guest 01-04-2012 01:44 PM

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Mitt Romney believes marriage is between a man and a woman and another woman and another woman and another woman and another woman.

Can you provide a source for this?

Guest 01-04-2012 01:57 PM

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Can you provide a source for this?



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...es_please.html

Guest 01-04-2012 02:55 PM

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Unfortunately for Mitt, he is about to receive the kiss of death.

A McCain endorsement. The cons will love that.

Now the big question is, will Sarah Palin endorse Rick Perry, or is he too much of an intellectual for her?

Guest 01-04-2012 03:01 PM

Love all the reasoning here. I don't buy hardly any of it. Romney barely eked out a win over Santorum. Santorum is undoubtedly the more conservative candidate. Romney still stuck in his usual percentages of support. Bachmann supporters will go to Santorum if they stay true to their beliefs. Whoever the anti-Romney candidate is should be able to garner that support if he goes after it.

It's only the Beltway and the media who are in Romney's corner. Is that enough? We shall see. All of you above should prepare to be shocked and disappointed.

Guest 01-04-2012 03:17 PM

In politics being true to beliefs takes a back seat to backing a winner. Romney, far and away, has the best chance of winning in November.

Santorum, Gingrich, Paul - I am sure they are all nice guys. I don't agree with them on anything, but I am sure they are nice guys.

BUT - Romney has the ground game in place in all the primary states and he has plenty of $$. He's been planning this for 4 years.

For the R's, it's Romney or bust.

Guest 01-04-2012 03:54 PM

It has been said many times and many ways that Santorum is NOT electable. If the Republicans want a chance at the White House, it will have to be Romney AND another moderate for VP on their ticket.

Guest 01-04-2012 04:15 PM

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Where in that article does it say Mitt supports poligimy? The one statement was a joke.

Guest 01-04-2012 04:24 PM

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It has been said many times and many ways that Santorum is NOT electable. If the Republicans want a chance at the White House, it will have to be Romney AND another moderate for VP on their ticket.

Romney / Christie

Guest 01-04-2012 04:43 PM

The results in Iowa didn't really support anything. turnout was low and most were far right christian. romney only won by 8 votes after all the money he dumped there. Perry will continue.

It is still too early to determine who wiull win the primary. New Hampshire will also go to romney but after that ?????

Romney is not my choice because he is in favor of a VAT tax which by the way is a favorite of Dems. Europe introduced its VAT around 1969 and now into the upper 20 percentages supports Europe welfare system. Beside which romney is what ever one wants him to be at that point in time.

Ask yourself which of the candidates/incumbent would cause you to follow them? the answer for me is none of them...not one

Where have all the great men gone?????

Guest 01-04-2012 05:08 PM

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Can you provide a source for this?


You are asking for something that I NEVER recall happening.....JANMCN providing a source for the venom he/she spews.....if it is someone other than a Democrat, they are to be demonized with no source..no credible link, just they have to be wrong because I dont agree therefore......

Just saying things or using the party line is the new political line. You dont have to know anything or what you are talking about. Just ridicule and run.

Guest 01-04-2012 05:14 PM

If Romney prevails, watch him tap Sen. Marco Rubio for VP...in an attempt to achieve geographical and ethnic balance.

Guest 01-04-2012 05:35 PM

here is what I learned about Iowa. Our democracy is dead,period. Reps,Dems no longer matter. The real winner in Iowa and coming to your state soon is the super PAC. They can spend unlimited money,they don't disclose donors until after the vote is counted and they want to postpone that. These creatures were unleashed by the 2010 Supreme Court ruling. Both sides have them.Both sides will use them. Forget democracy,money is all that will matter. I really enjoyed the back and forth with many of you,it was fun to take sides and discuss and argue the issues but as I see it we are wasting our time. Obama Romney whoever....it doesn't matter they will be owned by big money.Our democracy is no longer.

Guest 01-04-2012 06:18 PM

waynet, a short history lesson is in order.

The United States of America is NOT, I repeat, NOT a democracy.

The United States of America is, I repeat, is a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC.

Now, having said that, you are right, no matter what you call the United States of America, We The People, no longer matter. All the pols are bought and paid for by the Super PACS and will do their bidding to keep getting elected. Sad state of affairs.

Guest 01-04-2012 06:22 PM

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In politics being true to beliefs takes a back seat to backing a winner. Romney, far and away, has the best chance of winning in November.

Santorum, Gingrich, Paul - I am sure they are all nice guys. I don't agree with them on anything, but I am sure they are nice guys.

BUT - Romney has the ground game in place in all the primary states and he has plenty of $$. He's been planning this for 4 years.

For the R's, it's Romney or bust.

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It has been said many times and many ways that Santorum is NOT electable. If the Republicans want a chance at the White House, it will have to be Romney AND another moderate for VP on their ticket.

I always take political advice on who the Republican nominee will and should be from my rabid lefty friends. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest 01-04-2012 07:00 PM

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You are asking for something that I NEVER recall happening.....JANMCN providing a source for the venom he/she spews.....if it is someone other than a Democrat, they are to be demonized with no source..no credible link, just they have to be wrong because I dont agree therefore......

Just saying things or using the party line is the new political line. You dont have to know anything or what you are talking about. Just ridicule and run.

Google Mormons/polygamy and you'll find thousands of links to read.

Guest 01-04-2012 07:27 PM

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Google Mormons/polygamy and you'll find thousands of links to read.

I thought that Polygamy is illegal everywhere in the USA, and that the Mormon Church does not condone Polygamy. Or perhaps you referring to past history. If you want to read about plural marriages that were once religiously supported, try reading the Old Testament.

Guest 01-04-2012 09:27 PM

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If Romney prevails, watch him tap Sen. Marco Rubio for VP...in an attempt to achieve geographical and ethnic balance.

No, the reason he or any republican nominee would pick Marco Rubio is because of his wisdom and statesmanship demonstrated here with John Kerry.......

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_68GjR6V6zI[/ame]

Guest 01-04-2012 10:23 PM

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Unfortunately for Mitt, he is about to receive the kiss of death.

A McCain endorsement. The cons will love that.

Quite an astute observation. Very nicely done. I don't think conservative voters needed McCain's endorsement to clue them in on Romney lack of conservative credentials in any event.

I will still vote for Romney if he's the ultimate candidate, but he's is what he is, and conservative he's not.

As Bachmann so aptly said on her way out of the race: This election is our one chance to prevent our country's descent into socialism. Obama and his policies must be defeated for our country to endure.

Guest 01-05-2012 06:42 AM

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Quite an astute observation. Very nicely done. I don't think conservative voters needed McCain's endorsement to clue them in on Romney lack of conservative credentials in any event.

I will still vote for Romney if he's the ultimate candidate, but he's is what he is, and conservative he's not.

As Bachmann so aptly said on her way out of the race: This election is our one chance to prevent our country's descent into socialism. Obama and his policies must be defeated for our country to endure.

It is so disconcerting to me to vote this way. I voted for McCain in 2008 only because I realized what our current President would do, AND realized he was simply a creation of the media, and now......I am going to vote primarily for the same reason again. We now have created a President who says HE KNOWS WHAT IS BEST and does not need congress. Now, I agree that congress is a mess but who in the world can set in the White House and be that arrogant.

We need a leader....quickly. Those who are on here touting his health care bill just have not done any investigation.....it is MORE financial disaster....it has so many little tentacles that reach out into everything....

RICHIE...another vote for sure for Romney

Guest 01-05-2012 09:45 AM

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Google Mormons/polygamy and you'll find thousands of links to read.

Google Obama / Birth Certificate and you will find thosands of......well, you take my point.

Guest 01-05-2012 12:03 PM

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Google Obama / Birth Certificate and you will find thosands of......well, you take my point.




Actually, I don't "take" your point. What is it you are attempting to equate? Are you saying verifiable statements Romney has made is equivalent to the "bithers"?

Sorry, don't see the connection.

Guest 01-05-2012 12:17 PM

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Actually, I don't "take" your point. What is it you are attempting to equate? Are you saying verifiable statements Romney has made is equivalent to the "bithers"?

Sorry, don't see the connection.

I am saying that there is as much evidence that President Obama was not born in the USA as there is that Mitt Romney has supported polygamy. That would be none. I did find that the LDS church opposed this practice in 1890.

Guest 01-05-2012 12:41 PM

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Actually, I don't "take" your point. What is it you are attempting to equate? Are you saying verifiable statements Romney has made is equivalent to the "bithers"?

Sorry, don't see the connection.

Really?; Romney has endorsed polygamy? Where and when did he do this?

Guest 01-05-2012 12:56 PM

I really do not believe Romney ever endorsed polygamy. Only a few breakaway sects of Mormons do that and it is not recognized by the LDS church.

I am glad to see that no poster here has "attacked" Mitt Romney as not being a Christian because he is a Mormon. Even though it began as late as 1820 through a vision to a teenager in New York, it is a good religion that preaches Christian beliefs and encourages a great system of family and community responsibility.

Since 1978, they have been inclusive of black Mormons in their priesthoods.

Guest 01-05-2012 01:58 PM

I don't believe anyone here has claimed that Romney supports polygamy.

He did, however, say (hopefully jokingly) that "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman ... and a woman ... and a woman" There is even a link to the quote and where and when he said it.

I would imagine you could even find excerpts of that 2005 speech on youtube, as well as the tape of the 2006 Imus show where he said it again.

Guest 01-05-2012 02:54 PM

s Romney's second run for President and I still don't know who he is and what he really stands for.

The repeatedly claim that because of his business acumen he would make a great president falls flat. It falls flat because the government does not work like a business.

the best candidate is the one that can gain enough of Congressmen and women's confidence to keep things moving forward.

We know that Obama is not that person. His recent grand standing stunts when making recess appointments may please some Dems. However, the Finacial Consumer Board is going to be Sarbanes Oxley on steroids. And the NLRB appointments will further create uncertainty for business.


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